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 Post subject: Midnight approaches
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:38 am 
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Well, the transfer window closes tonight and despite the fanfare and bull, the promised reinforcements apparently aren’t gonna ride over the hill to save us, in fact it may be a lot worse if we lose Umerah.
The utter tosh we were sold pre transfer window was just throwing out hope that was never fulfilled, ……because the signings are hardly what I’d class as game changers for the better.
Ever get the feeling you’ve been led up the garden path and shit on from a great height……yet again……? :angry-tappingfoot:

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 Post subject: Re: Midnight approaches
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Yep!


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 Post subject: Re: Midnight approaches
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Curle on Tees saying they had a few players lined up but at the last minute their agent or the player said they were signing for some one else even though they had been offered decent terms by Pools ?
There might be a few offers on the table and players waiting to the last minute before deciding in the event they receive another better offer.


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 Post subject: Re: Midnight approaches
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:14 am 
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You are an optimist Mr J….. there’s more chance of Glenn Millers plane finally landing in France than us signing any worthwhile players.

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 Post subject: Re: Midnight approaches
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Jamie1952 wrote:
Curle on Tees saying they had a few players lined up but at the last minute their agent or the player said they were signing for some one else even though they had been offered decent terms by Pools ?
There might be a few offers on the table and players waiting to the last minute before deciding in the event they receive another better offer.


Ambitious clubs line up there targets before the windows open then go straight into action.

KC s crack is shit concerning the recruitment.
Hes just Sings puppet rolling out pathetic excuses
Its obvious the shit wages make Pools as a last choice for shit players no other clubs want.
We down thats done n dusted.
So the sooner these clueless bullshiting cranks get away from our club.
The sooner the rebuild can take place.
As it stands now the club is a total cesspit wirh zero ambition.
4500 poolies deserve better than this horror show.
Were we were 12 months ago to were we are now is unreal. :angry-tappingfoot:


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 Post subject: Re: Midnight approaches
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We once again come into a deadline day needing 5+ players. This time it’s a bit more important due to the looming threat of relegation.
I reckon we get 2/3, which isn’t enough


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 Post subject: Re: Midnight approaches
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I’m guessing that the better players with options don’t particularly want to go to the bookies favourites for relegation. A club with a reputation for hire and fire and a club no one seems to want to sign for. It’s not an easy sell.


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 Post subject: Re: Midnight approaches
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things could get worse we could also lose players by midnight. they,d sell the tea lady if they could make a profit. have a word with the new lad trusy for a few names from the clubs he was at, radcliffe and hyde. just up our street/


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 Post subject: Re: Midnight approaches
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I’m guessing that the better players with options don’t particularly want to go to the bookies favourites for relegation. A club with a reputation for hire and fire and a club no one seems to want to sign for. It’s not an easy sell.


Looks like the shit players don't even want to come here,never mind decent ones.


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 Post subject: Re: Midnight approaches
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I've no doubt that Umerah will go if price is right.

Raj has to factor in FL money lost through certain relegation and the number of fans who will never return until he has left the club. So bid would have to be quite substantial.


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 Post subject: Re: Midnight approaches
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Would be interesting to see how much money Pools would lose if he was sold. I think gates would be down 25% minimum and revenue from steaming possibly 35%


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 Post subject: Re: Midnight approaches
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The players we are bringing in are bang average to say the least, in fact at times the team has looked worse. The wage bill is probobly less than what it was going into the transfer period. Teams have no problems getting players if they pay the going rate, we have zero problems getting rid of players.

No matter what happens at the end of the season one thing that needs to happen is raj Singh, hobin etc need to be nowhere near this football club.


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 Post subject: Re: Midnight approaches
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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
The players we are bringing in are bang average to say the least, in fact at times the team has looked worse. The wage bill is probobly less than what it was going into the transfer period. Teams have no problems getting players if they pay the going rate, we have zero problems getting rid of players.

No matter what happens at the end of the season one thing that needs to happen is raj Singh, hobin etc need to be nowhere near this football club.

they,ll both be still with us with curle set up to be the fall guy. you know he was given all the funds in the world but refused to use em.


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 Post subject: Re: Midnight approaches
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We've had four transfer windows since Bristol. Given the circumstances I will forgive the first one. The other three, including this one, have been abysmal.

Summer was atrocious, it didn't need hindsight so suggest we needed three or four players in on deadline day, particularly another CB. We ended up with Clarke Oduor late on. This made the current window even more important to get right. It started off okay signing much needed defenders though not all were the tried and tested EFL players we were told we needed and would get.

Since then it has just been disappointment after disappointment. Unless something happens today, it will be our worst one yet. Our EFL existence is once again in the balance, with the scales not tipped in our favour. We were told throwing money at it doesn't always work. It seems to have worked for some of our rivals. Could the fact they are showing an intent to remain in the League be a factor when players decide to go to these teams instead of us? We've shown little urgency, little ambition, little intent. Matching the offers of clubs who are guaranteed EFL status just doesn't cut it. Unless a player believes we'd get out of this mess and stay up, he'd be foolish to join unless we made an offer a player couldn't refuse to land the players we not just want, but more importantly, NEED.

In this window the club to show they were serious about staying up. They needed to show ambition, to show they knew they got it wrong in the summer but were intent on getting it right now. As a lot of people suspected, this windows is going the way of others. Pools talking a good game but very little action.

I hope at the end of today the club have got it right and have signed some quality to keep us up. I can't see it though. Even though I would regard myself as one of the rose tinted glasses brigade, even I have lost the faith.


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 Post subject: Re: Midnight approaches
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Mr Irrelevant wrote:
I’m guessing that the better players with options don’t particularly want to go to the bookies favourites for relegation. A club with a reputation for hire and fire and a club no one seems to want to sign for. It’s not an easy sell.

Maybe word gets round the players grapevine we’re a club to be avoided, now I wonder what for….? :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Midnight approaches
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We need to buy players with stupid haircuts these are the ones to keep us in the league Mark my words.


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 Post subject: Re: Midnight approaches
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Snowy wrote:
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I’m guessing that the better players with options don’t particularly want to go to the bookies favourites for relegation. A club with a reputation for hire and fire and a club no one seems to want to sign for. It’s not an easy sell.

Maybe word gets round the players grapevine we’re a club to be avoided, now I wonder what for….? :roll:


It sure does, Snowy.
We don't know the ins and outs of the alleged negotiations that are taking place so, we have the usual bombardment of make believe, guesswork and speculation.
However players are going elsewhere instead of coming to us, or so we are being led to believe
Allegedly deals have been agreed only to be changed at the last hour.
The club adamantly state they are making competitive offers but until we have knowledge of what these offers are the guesswork and rumours intensify.
There is speculation that messages are occurring between players suggesting not to touch us with the proverbial bargepole. How true is that ?????????? Will we ever know???

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 Post subject: Re: Midnight approaches
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Davcla wrote:
We need to buy players with stupid haircuts these are the ones to keep us in the league Mark my words.

We have one in goal…..they give you magic powers apparently, they hypnotise managers into picking you regardless.

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 Post subject: Re: Midnight approaches
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derwent wrote:
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Mr Irrelevant wrote:
I’m guessing that the better players with options don’t particularly want to go to the bookies favourites for relegation. A club with a reputation for hire and fire and a club no one seems to want to sign for. It’s not an easy sell.

Maybe word gets round the players grapevine we’re a club to be avoided, now I wonder what for….? :roll:


It sure does, Snowy.
We don't know the ins and outs of the alleged negotiations that are taking place so, we have the usual bombardment of make believe, guesswork and speculation.
However players are going elsewhere instead of coming to us, or so we are being led to believe
Allegedly deals have been agreed only to be changed at the last hour.
The club adamantly state they are making competitive offers but until we have knowledge of what these offers are the guesswork and rumours intensify.
There is speculation that messages are occurring between players suggesting not to touch us with the proverbial bargepole. How true is that ?????????? Will we ever know???

We can all take an educated guess :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Midnight approaches
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Of course word will be getting round. Facebook groups, PFA whatsapp groups, even the good old boys network. If you were a sparky, a plumber, a roofer, a director; would you ever take a job without asking someone who has worked there? It'll be the same for professional footballers.


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 Post subject: Re: Midnight approaches
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Sutton joins Harrogate. I was told we were also in for him.

I do have some interesting connections in football, and there are lots of truth in what is being said above. The offers haven’t been bad, we’ve just been rejected at every turn, for players who have then gone into the NL in some instances. At least 4 forwards have said no. We had one as good as signed who dropped us at the last.

The error once again (for the fourth transfer window in a row) is that they’ve over promised and royally under delivered. We can’t recruit quality and we can’t retain our quality… destined to fail.


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Mr Irrelevant wrote:
Of course word will be getting round. Facebook groups, PFA whatsapp groups, even the good old boys network. If you were a sparky, a plumber, a roofer, a director; would you ever take a job without asking someone who has worked there? It'll be the same for professional footballers.

Sounds like ‘trust a trader’ for footballers.

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 Post subject: Re: Midnight approaches
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Sutton joins Harrogate. I was told we were also in for him.

I do have some interesting connections in football, and there are lots of truth in what is being said above. The offers haven’t been bad, we’ve just been rejected at every turn, for players who have then gone into the NL in some instances. At least 4 forwards have said no. We had one as good as signed who dropped us at the last.

The error once again (for the fourth transfer window in a row) is that they’ve over promised and royally under delivered. We can’t recruit quality and we can’t retain our quality… destined to fail.


Anybody can put good offers in until the player finds out he can get double at other clubs.we have heard all this rubbish before every transfer window how great our offers are. The club drop hints how great the offers are while offloading anyone half decent. Think we have stopped falling for this spiel now.


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 Post subject: Re: Midnight approaches
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thebigdog wrote:
Sutton joins Harrogate. I was told we were also in for him.

I do have some interesting connections in football, and there are lots of truth in what is being said above. The offers haven’t been bad, we’ve just been rejected at every turn, for players who have then gone into the NL in some instances. At least 4 forwards have said no. We had one as good as signed who dropped us at the last.

The error once again (for the fourth transfer window in a row) is that they’ve over promised and royally under delivered. We can’t recruit quality and we can’t retain our quality… destined to fail.

Now I wonder what the gossip is in the playing community, it doesn’t take much head scratching to work it out.
This is soooooo disappointing.

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 Post subject: Re: Midnight approaches
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It’s been very underwhelming on the striker front
I think pruti and dodds are good signings,
Hartley and Dolan not good signings
The young kid from Blackpool a waste of time and obviously jury out on the 2 today

Overall though doesn’t feel like enough to get us out of the clart


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The rhetoric of us signing footballers to not only set us up for this season but for the future is bollocks. The windows been a farce - as I said in the summer window - metaphorically sticking a plaster over it. I’m also not sold on the signing of Kiernan. As I wasn’t on Dolan and Hartley. If Finney and Jennings are the final two, I’m not fooled, we don’t have enough to win football matches to stay in this division.


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2 more in, feels like quantity over quality and a last minute rush approach


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Conor Jennings… haha, my word. Oh my word. Call me a doubter Raj, I am.


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Right the jokes over now when do the good signings start happening.


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
Right the jokes over now when do the good signings start happening.


We wanted Jennings this whole time. We didn’t even want to spend any money on those top strikers who had scored 10+ in L2 and L1. TRUST ME!


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thebigdog wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
Right the jokes over now when do the good signings start happening.


We wanted Jennings this whole time. We didn’t even want to spend any money on those top strikers who had scored 10+ in L2 and L1. TRUST ME!


Same talk same actions, happens every transfer window, yet it convinces quite a lot of the fanbase which is what the club wants. They drop a few names knowing it will get around but in the end we know they aren't getting them. Bloody hell they couldn't even get odisina back, so the chances of a good striker coming was non existent.


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
Right the jokes over now when do the good signings start happening.


Never under this Regime.


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

Same talk same actions, happens every transfer window, yet it convinces quite a lot of the fanbase which is what the club wants. They drop a few names knowing it will get around but in the end we know they aren't getting them. Bloody hell they couldn't even get odisina back, so the chances of a good striker coming was non existent.

and some actually beleived armstrong was coming back. makes you wonder who is worse, the club or many fans who take on the bullshit time after time. would have been a near miracle to sign players we wanted with clubs keeping em due to small squads implemented on them by the league. looking at players who have moved in league 2 not many of those last day signings are on paper really that great. loads of kids and players doing sideways moves.


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Armstrong coming back was pure Fantasy Island, why do people build their hopes up! That was a no no from the start.

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I remember the season we last got relegated from the football league, we used about 50 players at least, seemed to sign anyone who would come within sniffing distance of the arena.
Unfortunately 90% of the ones who signed were crap.
I may be wrong here but this pattern looks very familiar.


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It’s the only lifeboat on the horizon…..we can’t do anything about it now, just hold on and hope it stays afloat……we live in strange times.

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