Maybe we are off the mark but IF this was the outcome he is digging his heels in for then we are screwed.

He clearly wants something from Pools. Cynic says he wants the land…

But according to you the Yanks came along, without him putting the club up for sale.

Make your mind up, we talking specific terms or general terms?

As neither of us is privy to all of the facts a lot of what is said is opinion, you can specify any terminology you like but you said the club needs to be up for sale to attract interest and you also believe the yanks approached the club with an interest to buy. So you need to make your own mind up with respect.
As the man once said "everything is for sale if the price is right"
Raj owns the club and appears to be willing to sell it if the deal suits him, whether we like that stance or not we have to respect his right to adopt that stance.
If people would stop clouding the situation with nonsense and make believe, creating fairy stories, fake news etc etc, then we might get somewhere................maybe.

But the Council own the land.

bloody good job they do as we might not have a club to moan about if they didn,t. long may that continue no matter who owns the club. its a safeguard for the future. trust them before any new owner and thats saying something.

The council owned the land around the arena too and he wanted that! Guess what happened when they wouldn't just let him have it.....

I meant it pretty simply but knowing me , the execution was probably poor. If I just put a 'For Sale' board outside me house I might get a different number of enquiries than if I put it on Rightmove as well. Of course I could do nowt at all and then someone who was interested in a house such as mine could speculatively enquire as to my willingness to possibly sell. It is not often, but it does happen. Also if my house was worth 1m ( ) and I put it up for sale for 2m.... then I would likely struggle to get any offers.

Only trouble is some Council’s just seem to get tempted at times to flog the land and compensate with soulless Meccanno ‘Community Stadiums’ on the edge of town.

The same as what's goin to happen here.
Its smell the coffee time for the Messiah Worshippers.

He saved the club five years ago, but that debt we all owe him is now spent.

It's time for the twat to put up, or shut up.

I really wanted the people who showed loyalty and faith in Raj to have turned out to be right. That would have meant cynics like me would have had to eat humble pie but at least our football club would be doing OK.

Any faith in Raj evaporated months ago, well for me…now it’s just embarrassing.
Trouble is, whoever comes in after him will have a legacy of wariness on the part of the fans.

Hartlepool council has done well in never selling the ground to any owner of the club. It must NEVER happen ever.
Its saved the club.

You still have a ground to play in .It's league 3 at worst.What's everybody flapping at ?

You have a point there Mr Sussex.

Admittedly the structure is there to build on and even IOR despite the success were never allowed to buy the ground despite repeated requests from them, hence no ground improvements by IOR.
But we shouldn’t be in this situation in the first place.

It wasn’t a case of IOR not being allowed to buy the ground, they made an offer but the Council wanted more, IOR weren’t prepared to up their offer.

The last person the ground should be sold to is Singh, he basically is a property developer and would look to capitalise on the ground or use it as security against loans.

Hodcroft said if Pools had won promotion to the Championship IOR had big plans to invest, ok he can say that now though but I would have trusted the ground in IOR hands rather than Singhs.

Let’s be honest the ground and the area isn’t exactly prime building land wether for housing or retail. Do the Council have Pools in their heart and want to keep control of ground so it doesn’t fall into the ‘wrong hands’ ?

Take it from me, IOR we’re never going to be allowed to buy the ground. But that was then and this is now and in these strange times we live in what’s to say some Councillors after more cash would be agreeable to selling, but as you say, the site is unsuitable for retail or housing development….unless some councillors wanted ‘social housing’ there..
Still can’t see it though.

he has if you just look at the league games the last 2 seasons. its hardly been a season and a half of excitement and good memories are few and far between. the worst thing about going down is we will be involved with btsport yet again with their rip off price just for watching one game along with stupid KO times again.

Indeed but always remember when selling anything, the price you advertise can be decreased but rarely increased and every estate agent I've ever dealt with have advised to put the price higher than I want, explaining that I can always come down. Most people who negotiate a reduction go away happy.
Just a thought, even though there would be more response if the sale was advertised, the odd person enquiring out of the blue probably wants a house like yours and wants to live in that neighbourhood, so you're possibly more than half way there. The best example of that is a Poolie fanatic winning £150m plus on the Euromillions who just might offer Raj a figure he couldn't refuse just to get rid. Remote possibility but still a possibility.

There would no reason for humble pie, Mr Imp.

The only beef I had with you and others was you couldn't/wouldn't back up your statements with evidence, so I categorized your contribution as opinion/speculation and you are perfectly entitled to that.
Also no one criticising Raj offered an alternative and still don't. If he goes there has to be a replacement and the danger that I suggested could well be oblivion and that danger is still staring us in the face.
We all have opinions but none of us get every opinion right, The important factor is the fact that they should be stated as opinions. The people who try and sell their opinion as fact are the nuisance factor. Accurate guesswork is not fact and never will be.