Yes they are the better team how ever we gave them 2 goals.

Carlisle keeper has collected everything crossed, Killip is just a nightmare its so obvious.

Rollin stretchered off what a shit night.

In Raj we trust

The three amigos

Carlisle were by far the better team. Meneyase will be out for some time with the injury he sustained from that thug Joe Garner. The tackle was obscene.

Pools midfield slow and ponderous. Hartley looked well off it.

Umerah, Pruti, Sterry and Dodds the only positives.

cant disagree with any of that--Ferguson was solid too

Menayse injury will be a big loss

You predicted in December that the TW would be non effective.
Its going to Relegate us for sure.
Chairman n Manager both clueless.
Game Over.

I guess if your keeper cant catch crosses your defenders need to stop the crosses but we didnt stop the crosses. Maybe time for the new keeper on Saturday. The match stats in terms of possession were fairly even. We had 51% possession and the same number of corners they had, 4 each. As I said earlier though, the most telling stat is their 11 shots on target. If you have that many shots there is a good chance you'll score at least two or three.

If Killip plays in the next match after that performance we might as well call it a day.

I think we all knew the transfer window would be the same as pretty much all the others. Lots of talk the usual were bringing in a prolific striker, that never materialises. Bringing past players back, signing a keeper then don't play him. Though after tonight I'd be amazed if he isn't on Saturday. Still we live in hope of a miracle that we bring quality players with pace in midfield a forward that can help josh. A central defender that can defend.

Fans got carried away by beating possibly the worst team in the country on Saturday. First test tonight and the new defence was just as bad as the old one. We're a mess and it needs sorting now.

Cockup Killip is a major major problem and needs to be given a brush and told to clean the stands... Then again he would definitely drop the brush without a doubt.

I think it’s too late. Games disappearing. I can’t see past Rochdale and Pools going down now, table makes grim reading and we are still absolutely toss. Need to pluck BIG results out… it won’t happen without a miracle now.

Over the season we’ve conceded a load of goals with crosses etc from our left hand side, mainly other teams exploiting Ferguson’s defensive weaknesses. Look at their third goal tonight. Ferguson runs away from the guy that crossed it. I had to laugh when Loyal Fan described Ferguson as solid. Sorry to see Menayese get a bad injury but he was having a shocker too. All three goals conceded were avoidable. A back five with three new lads in was always a risk. Must win on Saturday.

maybe we pick something up in home games but looking at Feb and March i can't see us getting many points with the current team.
Only hope is a Rochdale and Crawley complete implosion

Pruti and Dodds both wont hang arond long in non-league and Umerah will inevitably be sold so really is a lot at stake.

I thought Ferguson was bang average like many others. His set piece delivery was worse than Killip s distribution. Giving a goal kick when attempting to put a corner in is pretty awful. We lost against a team we were expected to lose against. Hope the injury to Menayese isn't a bad one.

Ferguson hasnt even been playing in his right position for more than half a season and has gone backwards because of it but he isnt the problem and wasnt tonight

1st Goal--Hartley misjudges a bounce from resulting corner no one defends near post and Killip fumbles
2nd Gola--Hartley clearance a shocker and its a tap in
3rd goal - Hartley gets under the cross and misjudges leaving an easy header

Everyone can have a bad game but Menayse and Ferguson werent the problem today.

Also other teams are allowed to have good players and the lad they have brought in from Palace looked a class above

Disappointing though tonight's result most certainly is, we are never going to preserve our league status by winning away against promotion challengers. Wont happen unless they have an off day and those are rare which is why they are promotion contenders. We need to beat the teams around us and hope a couple of them are worse than us for example Crawley and Rochdale.

The only consolation I can think of right now is that billinghampoolie has yet to be proved right come the end of any season. Ferguson was awful. I'm not sure he is fully fit.

I Agree

As in what get relegated? Well let's hope I'm proved wrong again then. I think you find straight after promotion I made it quite clear how shocked I was the way the club was going. For starters when you lose a player to south shields and then 6 months down the line have to scrape the barrel to bring an ex poolie in from india of all places, you know things aren't quite right.

Raj Singh 24 days into January has still done ridiculously little to try keep us up apart from the club leaking forwards names to try and appease fans..

After last night, some players just seem resigned to their fate.

Really poor last night, it was a well oiled machine Vs a bunch of strangers. They didn't even have to play that well to easily beat us but the lack of fight and effort from some players was poor to see. Mainly the midfield, no pace, no creativity, no desire to close anyone down, nobody getting their foot on the ball. Those 3 cannot play together again, all too similar. Feathersone is offering nothing lately and looks finished and Dolan just doesn't look fit and lean enough for me. I expected a defeat but it's demoralising how easy we gave them 3 goals. New keeper in on Saturday, get some legs in midfield and get some bloody crosses in the box!

true, only being totally hopeful rxpected anything from last night. What made it worse though it was like watching a repeat of a film you have seen half a dozen or more times where we got all the usual errors and performances. got my ticket for saturday and hope for more rochdale than carlisle performance with kippip stuck well and truly on the bench.

Can kind of understand playing 3 defensive midfielders against a Carlisle team who are flying but it left far too big a gap to the forwards. Also confused by playing Niang, who is kind of a much worse Sylla, ahead of Sylla himself?
We’ve still got 3 points to play for against Colchester and Crawley and 6 against Newport. Take all these and pick up a few more and we should be ok.

We were only playing Carlisle last night. At times we made them look like barcelona, completely embarrassing performance once again. Have we fallen so low we now just accept defeat before a ball is even kicked. We went to Stevenage not so long back they were utter garbage, we can't keep relying on playing a team in the bottom 6.

more annoying and less productive than drawing last night followed up by another draw on saturday. if we win on saturday its been a good 8 days as far as i am concerned.

Yeah but it is a very big "if". Colchester have brought players in and are now a different proposition to the team we nearly beat early in the season. I see they came from a goal down last night to get a draw against Salford, a team we never laid a glove on when we played them. Pools will need to play very well to get anything from this game. I dont feel very confident.

Colchester had 2 new players in their starting 11, Hall and Read. Hall good centre half and Read I've never heard of so it's not as though they've bought their way out if it so far.

Sorry 3, wood on loan from orient as well

I don't think its a striker problem, you have one there who seems to be scoring plenty.
However if you concede loads of soft goals it doesn't matter how prolific your striker is.

After the first goal went in there was a collective sigh…. and it was a case of deja vu.

So they have signed three new players and Pools have signed four counting the keeper. Colchester's last five results are three wins, one loss one draw. Pools last five results three losses, one win, one draw. Doesn't suggest we will be blowing them away on Saturday.

Sorry Oz that wasn't really my point, it's more that they aren't throwing money at it like some people suggest, they are just playing better now.

Pools have signed 5 counting the keeper - Dolan, Hartley, Dodds, Pruti and now Stolarczyk. Of course we need quality and well as quantity!

My bad! Never was any good at Maths and anyway, my memory is shot to pieces. I forgot about Dolan.

I dont know if their new signings are loans or permanents but it seems their presence is boosting their performances whereas ours are not quite bedded in yet. Fingers crossed for Saturday.

It was easily done last night. Need more from him.

This.
Games against teams in the bottom 6 are fast running out.
At some stage we need to take points from the better sides.

Colchester have also signed Matt Jay from Exeter.
They've signed quality,we haven't.

Begs the question if he’s quality, why did Exeter let him go?
Have Colchester come into money ?

didn,t they do the exact same thing last season as well. escaping the drop seems firmly in their DNA.

They triggered his release clause. Exeter didn't want him to leave.

30 or 40+ plus games for a team which was promoted last season & who's fans describe as quality suggests he is.
As for Colchester having money,I don't know where they are getting it from,they're well in debt as far as I know.

they,d lose even more if they went down with players wanting out and fans deserting the club. only our chairman does not understand this.

I don’t know if as fans our opinions count for anything. If a shop treat loyal customers like the fans are treated in football, they’d shop somewhere else, but we don’t have that choice.
We the fans are the one constant at any club yet usually taken for granted and this is a prime example, yet without us the club collapses, but they know we won’t and it’s about time they started realising just how critical this is.

The geordies are a prime example, fans treated badly over the years but there was still a waiting list for season tickets, mackums not far behind. Boro fans were never treated badly, a loyal chairman who supports the club but hasn’t the funds, if the Boro go on a losing streak the fans stay away.
Pools, Singh for me has no real interest in the fans not many owners do bearing in mind I remember when Hodcroft sacked a manager can’t remember who, the fans were in uproar. Hodcroft said if you don’t like how we run the club you don’t need to watch us.

Just read 'Alchemy' by Christopher Hull (about the Clough era at Pools) and the degree to which Clough, and whoever was Chairman, focussed on gates is interesting - to the extent that Clough would cajole folk to go to games (through the local paper or by going to social clubs in the town). And here we are now and we occasionally hear His Rajesty demand crowds of a certain size - and he fails to sense (acknowledge/ understand/ accept) the increasing apathy/ antagonism. For many clubs the commercial income is more important than basic gate revenues and one wonders how much Pools are losing in terms of programmes, hospitality, sponsorship in all its forms, etc. My sense is that His Rajesty will be seeing revenues drop across all sources - but, no worries, we've shipped out as many as we've brought in during this transfer window - so the February payroll will be lower than the one in December....

Clough would not just wait on a player to decide on his options either, he would turn up on their doorstep and not leave until he got a signature

We had great attendances last season (as demanded by Raj) but have been repaid with him gutting the team and replacing them with players who will never play in the FL ever again (with a few exceptions - who may be sold shortly). Pools is not like a care home where if you lose a customer you have plenty more lined up to take their place, the floating fans will not be back in a hurry to watch us struggling in non-league.

its nothing new but agree fans should get better tratment and their views taken on board more. there has always been 4 layers at clubs who rarely meet or fully get on. fans, players,managers and coaches and then owners/directors and the board. each layer needs to get closer together as really every situation affects them all.

Wonder if they would take notice if the gate was well down tomorrow.

Because they deserve NO better.

they know quite well many would still turn up even if we did a blackpool oystons type protest and all you,d get is poolie on poolie and costs could be lowered even more. not supporting the club or any club is possibly the best way forward and watching games as a total neutral will help your sanity.