killip looks worse on the screen than he does in real life. ball comes into the penalty area and he is never to be seen. the number of times i shout where is bloody killip is beyond me. always wojury he recieved back in non league still prays on his mind and has had other problems before he arrived with us.

Cheers not 568 then

Why dont they put it on the electronic board

Yep we have lost some good players over the past few years.

He wasn't backed alright though he had to bring in total bargain basements, to fill up a ridiculously small squad. I'm glad he has gone but come on he had every decent player sold or wanted to go basically as he arrived. If he had been allowed to sign7 or 8 of decent football league quality I'd agree, we will soon find out what scraps curle has to deal with this transfer window, we're already looking at past Pools players that left 5 years ago.

Probably some think its below their pay-grade to issue players with the outcome of the draw.
They can,t say they don,t have the outlets.

Could be against the law also, But you my friend a just a FAN.

Prayer mats out
For Rochdale n Gillingham to both lose.

And Crawley

Gillingham getting beat on the half hour mark.

Blimey, you're so desperate to blame everything on Raj you'll even give Hartley an easy ride He thought bringing a load of players down with him from Scotland was going to be his masterstroke - rumour has it that Hastie and Murray in particular are on big wages.

Good comeback by Newport County

Lottery number was 402.
Thanks for the club for posting this on Arsebook.
I was only 166 out.

Not desperate too I sang his praises when he got us out of the conference. But since that day for one reason or another the tap has been cut off. Do you honestly believe anyone at Pools now is on big wages compared to clubs in our division? if so surely we would of gone in for Armstrong when he was here, kept oates or even tried to keep bogle. We couldn't afford to keep luke molyneux so why should we pay big for hastie I think people think because hastie played for rangers once upon a time were paying out big? His last two clubs on loan were Partick thistle and linfield I can't imagine either paying big wages for players.

Look at all the players and staff that leave Pools nowadays, we can't even keep hold of physios there is a common denominator in it all.

As for giving Hartley an easy ride, no he was a disaster but so are 99 percent of managers under this chairman, exactly the same things happened at darlo to what's happening now.

Compared to which clubs in this division? Pools are 13th in the list of average attendances for League 2. Bradford get almost as many fans in for one game as we do for 4! If we were winning more regularly and that added another 1,000 to the gates we'd still only be around 10th. The sugar daddy chairmen are keeping most of the clubs with really poor crowds competitive.

Pools have never been a big club in League 2 terms apart from the early years of IOR. The only team this season that is doing much better than Pools on less resources is Barrow. Pete Wild is definitely the one that got away - Raj should have tried to get him in when Challinor left, never mind last summer.

While Chalinor was here we had the 5th or 6th highest in the division, did we take advantage of it no. We have been dreadful all season and yet are averaging 4500 plus with I might add the most expensive tickets in the league. If we were doing anywhere near well we would average 5500 to 6000 in this league. Times have changed at Pools gone are the 1500 crowds, we hadn't won for a year or so on a Saturday we pulled in around 5000, unheard of years ago for Pools that.

It's time raj treat us like a club who can pull in 5000 to 6000 crowds and not the national North team we are run like. AS for wild we would of got him and should of if we had shown a tiny bit of ambition, yet barrow managed it, that should tell us all we need to know. Massive barrow could lure him yet we couldn't.

Even Challinor the best thing that's happened on years who clearly loved the fans couldn't wait to jump ship.

I agree with a lot of what you said, but Wild was never going to come here, total pie in the sky, he has a young family in the Manchester area and Barrow train in Salford.

Challinor has gone, what’s happened has happened, we have to start looking to the future.
The January widow will tell us where we’re going. I’m not hopeful.
‘We live in interesting times’ ( it’s a Turkish curse)

Hartley said numerous times weve missed a target and move onto the next one.
Probably while he had to import the missfits from the duck n dog. Red. Lion divisions.

Looks like we relying on Gillinghams goal drought to continue and to get lucky with 1 or 2 loanies to preserve our EFL status.

a strong rumour was that gillingham were in for a promising millwall striker who chose stockport over them. shows th.ey possibly might be shopping in a higher level than pools and are willing to splash some cash. we just have to hope our business in january is better than them and the others round us.

why not if the club was sold to him and we upped the offer barrow were giving him. its sodding league 2 barrow we are talking about who are now slipping down the league and not a club expecting to challenge at the top. do torquay in their history only employ managers from devon.

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Compared to which clubs in this division? Pools are 13th in the list of average attendances for League 2. Bradford get almost as many fans in for one game as we do for 4! If we were winning more regularly and that added another 1,000 to the gates we'd still only be around 10th. The sugar daddy chairmen are keeping most of the clubs with really poor crowds competitive.

Pools have never been a big club in League 2 terms apart from the early years of IOR.
gates matter far less than they did years ago. the main thing is where pools are in the total income league 2 league. whatever happened to that fair pay thing that was brought in to give the non suger daddy clubs a fairer crack of the whip.

Remember ‘Trigger’ being asked why he signed for Pools from Mansfield and he said we where the Chelsea of the division at the time money wise.
As for sugar daddy clubs, I can understand someone taking over a club with a history of good support and potential, but these egotists who buy some one horse town’s team with a population the size of Blackhall and splash the cash to mould it in their own image to prove everything they touch turns to gold, annoy the bleedin life out of me.

its just ego as they get more publicity from day 1 for doing what they do and have no history at these clubs where they can compare and contrast them to anyone who had done that job before. If you want your name to be heard then spenny is a better option than darlo to throw millions at.

can i add and it may have changed since but dont Barrow train in the North West where Pete Wild lives.
the Geography again adds up - once a week he probs trundles to the doldrum pesh hole that is Barrow ... this was a deciding factor in it all.

agree with the sugar daddy bull... what teams in this division are truely supported like Pools and have a real club. Forrest Green Rovers are tumbling down the league and should their divvy owner pack up and leave they would undoubtedly cease to exist within 2 seasons.

It was never happening, things just lined up perfectly for him at this time in his life, left Halifax and walked into a comfortable, no pressure job (in comparison to here) in the league above with Barrow that was an easy commute for him.

I don't think more money to come and work under Raj and his itchy trigger would've cut it.

think the number of fans harrogate brought to the vic tells you all you need to know seeing the importance of the game and being one of their closer away travels. without knowing the figures i bet more poolies trekked down to the vegans as they did comung to the vic. same with the rest of these new age clubs.

but does he see himself as the barrow manager for life or has he got more interest in bettering himself. could be looked at in the future at another club who may be put off my him not wanting to leave his comfort zone. doubt also raj,s trigger finger would be a problem if he or any manager brought success to the club.

Probably not but he's a relatively new manager who's since bagged himself a new 5 year deal in 2022, short spell at Oldham a couple at Halifax and now into league football with Barrow, short steps up the ladder, nothing to do with comfort zone just bettering himself every time, I wouldn't blame any ambitious manager in not wanting to come here with the current owner in charge.

the way football has become now the tenure of a succesful manager at pools would only be slightly longer than a poor one. for some stability we are crying out for something that isn,t going to happen, a poolie john coleman or that bloke at wycombe.

Expecting a favour from Bradford v rochdale tues nite.
Still looking like 40 pts is the survival figure.