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 Post subject: Transfer window
PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:13 pm 
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Latest rumour: Incoming.

Peter Hartley, You could not make it up.


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Somebody has.


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He's just left his club in India so that's where that rumour will be from. I hope our aim isn't to just sign ex players


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 Post subject: Re: Transfer window
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Somebody has.

J.R. Hartley is fishing for a move to Pools, providing there’s no catch he could be useful as he definitely knows where the net is.

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 Post subject: Re: Transfer window
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Snowy wrote:
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Somebody has.

J.R. Hartley is fishing for a move to Pools, providing there’s no catch he could be useful as he definitely knows where the net is.

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 Post subject: Re: Transfer window
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He is 35 in April so could do a job until the end of the season, a bit like Liddle did. Hartley's return is not as daft as it first sounded. He's a big presence.

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 Post subject: Re: Transfer window
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Alex Cairns will sign for Pools in January from Fleetwood Town, Pools also looking at a loan to bring Neill Byrne back to the club - definitely one to keep an eye on as he’s surplus to requirements at Tranmere. Brad Walker link does have legs so will be interesting to see how it pans out, not heard anything on as to whether the Peter Hartley or Matty Dolan rumours have any substance.


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 Post subject: Re: Transfer window
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Neil Byrne alongside Menayese has a nice solid ambiance about it. Hope it turns out to be true.


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 Post subject: Re: Transfer window
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Snowy wrote:
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Somebody has.

J.R. Hartley is fishing for a move to Pools, providing there’s no catch he could be useful as he definitely knows where the net is.



Oh Dear....
you asked for that.


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 Post subject: Re: Transfer window
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Pools also looking at a loan to bring Neill Byrne back to the club - definitely one to keep an eye on as he’s surplus to requirements at Tranmere.


For that matter so is Timi Odusina at Bradford. Wonder how much of a difference not getting appearance money never mind win bonuses makes to their wages? The grass isn't always greener on the other side.


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 Post subject: Re: Transfer window
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No sign of Dolan for Newport tonight, even on the bench - maybe injured?

Crawley on the road to another defeat, two down at HT. Big game for us now on Sunday, I’m expecting Harrogate to put up a better show than their previous visits this season.


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 Post subject: Re: Transfer window
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Twist Walsall's arm and splash out for Rolly M and Timmy should never have been allowed to leave. And after Pools smash Harrogate again the morrow drag back a very subdued for once Luke Armstrong. That will do me for starters. Oh and has anybody got a big central defender in mind? Is it time yet? Didn't he used to start at the back for Pools before being tried up front with more success (the first time that is). No, I am not being serious am I?


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 Post subject: Re: Transfer window
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players who have never played for pools will also be available. nip down to crawley as i,m sure all their players would love to leave the shit show. like pools not all their players are bad.


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 Post subject: Re: Transfer window
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Bring back Byrne, who no longer wanted to play for Pools ????????


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 Post subject: Re: Transfer window
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Poolie_on_Tyne wrote:
Bring back Byrne, who no longer wanted to play for Pools ????????


Player loyalty is measured in pounds sterling. If he is paid what he thinks he is worth, he'll do a job for us for a few weeks. Anyway, there may not be any truth in the rumour.


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 Post subject: Re: Transfer window
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‘If he’s paid what he thinks he’s worth’…….? I can’t see him coming back for much more than he was originally on if the truth be known and most those who left for pastures new ( Molyneux apart)are are now twiddling thumbs, hardly the future they imagined.

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 Post subject: Re: Transfer window
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Byrne asked for a move back to the North-West mainly for reasons of geography ""With it (Tranmere) being so close to my house, my family and my partner's family who are all massive Tranmere fans and so are my friends..." Sure, his head had been turned by an offer from Tranmere but he was contracted to Pools and in my opinion should have been told he was staying put. The footballing genius Paul Hartley decided otherwise.

The idea that we shouldn't sign players, even on loan, because they "no longer wanted to play for Pools" is barmy. By that measure we should never have resigned Gary Liddle and a bunch of others. Byrne is a solid pro who never let Pools down last season.


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 Post subject: Re: Transfer window
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Byrne is a solid pro who never let Pools down last season.

might be but was never a regular starter in league games if others were available though. deemed not good enough for bradford but fans would love him back. is this how low and despirate we now are. its a bit of a worry for me.


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 Post subject: Re: Transfer window
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accrington fan wrote:
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Byrne is a solid pro who never let Pools down last season.

might be but was never a regular starter in league games if others were available though. deemed not good enough for bradford but fans would love him back. is this how low and despirate we now are. its a bit of a worry for me.


Eh? Byrne started 40 out of the 46 League games last season. It would have been more but he missed the last 3 games of the season through injury. Started every FA cup game too. :roll:

He's never played for Bradford. Are you confusing him with Odusina?


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 Post subject: Re: Transfer window
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Have we made any signings during the nite.
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 Post subject: Re: Transfer window
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Byrne asked for a move back to the North-West mainly for reasons of geography ""With it (Tranmere) being so close to my house, my family and my partner's family who are all massive Tranmere fans and so are my friends..." Sure, his head had been turned by an offer from Tranmere but he was contracted to Pools and in my opinion should have been told he was staying put. The footballing genius Paul Hartley decided otherwise.

The idea that we shouldn't sign players, even on loan, because they "no longer wanted to play for Pools" is barmy. By that measure we should never have resigned Gary Liddle and a bunch of others. Byrne is a solid pro who never let Pools down last season.


So after 6 months at "home" Byrne would no longer want to be near those families & would re-sign for Pools, even on loan? I don't recall Liddle leaving Pools years ago because he no longer wanted to play for he club. Wasn't he out of contract & not offered what he thought he was worth? The two timescales are like comparing chalk & cheese.

It was no use keeping Byrne if he wanted away, as he will have been unsettled. Videos show he was regularly out of position/lost his marker/got under the ball last season, costing us goals. Clark left Tranmere for Walsall, & we got Menayese on loan from Walsall, having got a fee for Byrne. Pools got the best end of that deal, so it's unlikely that a Byrne-Menayese combination would have happened


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 Post subject: Re: Transfer window
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The versatile Hendrie would have been very useful this season, but he too wanted away. He doesn't even seem to be making Bradford's bench


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Eh? Byrne started 40 out of the 46 League games last season. It would have been more but he missed the last 3 games of the season through injury. Started every FA cup game too. :roll:

He's never played for Bradford. Are you confusing him with Odusina?

surprised by that. seemed to play in cup and trophy games only to be used off the bench in the next league game. Bth him and odusina would have played more league games for us than they have for bradford so what is their priority, wages or game time.


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The versatile Hendrie would have been very useful this season, but he too wanted away. He doesn't even seem to be making Bradford's bench

it begs the question of why he and others became unhappy at pools and wanted away. could be the money but apart from gav it all seemed to start once the wheels came off with lee.


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Poolie_on_Tyne wrote:
It was no use keeping Byrne if he wanted away, as he will have been unsettled. Videos show he was regularly out of position/lost his marker/got under the ball last season, costing us goals.


Regularly? You reckon? Odd then that he was a consistent starter for Challinor as well as Lee and only got subbed once all season. I thought he was unobtrusively competent (for a League 2 player) and good in the air.

The only question that matters is if he is available on loan as someone has suggested, is whether Byrne is a better option at centre back than Murray or Ferguson playing out of position? I think that's a complete no brainer.


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The only question that matters is if he is available on loan as someone has suggested, is whether Byrne is a better option at centre back than Murray or Ferguson playing out of position? I think that's a complete no brainer.

be no argument he is better than the leagues worst cente half and a player having a poor season and playing him out of position is doing him no favours whatsoever, anyway we do not know if he is on KC wish list anyway so its pure speculation.


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He is 35 in April so could do a job until the end of the season, a bit like Liddle did. Hartley's return is not as daft as it first sounded. He's a big presence.


His Dad did a decent tiling job for me a couple of years ago, not cheap though, £200 labour only, 4 hours graft.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
derwent wrote:
He is 35 in April so could do a job until the end of the season, a bit like Liddle did. Hartley's return is not as daft as it first sounded. He's a big presence.


His Dad did a decent tiling job for me a couple of years ago, not cheap though, £200 labour only, 4 hours graft.

would have been cheep for me as i,d have tried it myself first, cocked it up bigstyle and would have cost more in the end. putting up a mirror in the past has created a plastering job in the past so i quickly learned a lesson to shut wives up in the DIY department.


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He is 35 in April so could do a job until the end of the season, a bit like Liddle did. Hartley's return is not as daft as it first sounded. He's a big presence.


His Dad did a decent tiling job for me a couple of years ago, not cheap though, £200 labour only, 4 hours graft.

would have been cheep for me as i,d have tried it myself first, cocked it up bigstyle and would have cost more in the end. putting up a mirror in the past has created a plastering job in the past so i quickly learned a lesson to shut wives up in the DIY department.


Shutting wives (plural) up Mr Accy has the hint of an harem to it, can you elaborate???? :laugh:

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Shutting wives (plural) up Mr Accy has the hint of an harem to it, can you elaborate???? :laugh:

no harem as i get rid of one before moving on to the next. however the same problems by my lack of DIY carries on from one to the next. never knew why women expect blokes to be good at something especially when being bottom in woodwork was seen by me as an achievement. my exploits are still remembered by school mates even after 60 years.


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The versatile Hendrie would have been very useful this season, but he too wanted away. He doesn't even seem to be making Bradford's bench

it begs the question of why he and others became unhappy at pools and wanted away. could be the money but apart from gav it all seemed to start once the wheels came off with lee.


Poor wages is correct.
As the league table n clip of our squad shows.


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Poor wages or poor managerial choices? Players performing for DC could produce the goods.

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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
accrington fan wrote:
Poolie_on_Tyne wrote:
The versatile Hendrie would have been very useful this season, but he too wanted away. He doesn't even seem to be making Bradford's bench

it begs the question of why he and others became unhappy at pools and wanted away. could be the money but apart from gav it all seemed to start once the wheels came off with lee.


Poor wages is correct.
As the league table n clip of our squad shows.



We all know it's wages, you don't have to be a club insider to work it out, even fans of other clubs mention it. That's why we went shopping in Scotland. Nothing will change until raj sells up and I can't see that happening over night with him.


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Poor wages or poor managerial choices? Players performing for DC could produce the goods.


Ye
But that promotion squad had a lot more quality than todays team /squad.
We go up a division and the squad gets depleted instead of improving.
No ambition :angry-tappingfoot:


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Have we signed anyone yet? :wink:


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We all know it's wages, you don't have to be a club insider to work it out, even fans of other clubs mention it. That's why we went shopping in Scotland. Nothing will change until raj sells up and I can't see that happening over night with him.

think that was the reason hartley also went back up there to recruit players he knew on the limited money available. then we also get told the club does not pay transfer fees because they pay the money in wages. begs the question to who and where the money does go.


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Poor wages or poor managerial choices? Players performing for DC could produce the goods.


Ye
But that promotion squad had a lot more quality than todays team /squad.
We go up a division and the squad gets depleted instead of improving.
No ambition :angry-tappingfoot:

Which begs the question have the funds for players been reduced since Challinor’s time in charge who managed to produce a promotion winning team with his budget,…. If not, then the budget was pissed up against the wall in the summer by Hartley…….or more worryingly, has been reduced. sctatchinghead

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Have we signed anyone yet? :wink:


:lol:

Certainly have, new window cleaners …… Hartley, Coxless & Gibson, their motto..,’WE’LL PUT A SHINE ON SHITE’.

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Snowy wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Poor wages or poor managerial choices? Players performing for DC could produce the goods.


Ye
But that promotion squad had a lot more quality than todays team /squad.
We go up a division and the squad gets depleted instead of improving.
No ambition :angry-tappingfoot:

Which begs the question have the funds for players been reduced since Challinor’s time in charge who managed to produce a promotion winning team with his budget,…. If not, then the budget was pissed up against the wall in the summer by Hartley…….or more worryingly, has been reduced. sctatchinghead

not all signings come off but raj funded an experiment that totally failed. by doing that he should do his upmost to right this wrong for the state of everyone connected with the club and those who are now voting with their feet.


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Dolan scores for Newport v Crawley in 83 minute. Sir Jeff comments on his possible move to a big club.

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What about Mark Kitching who has only played 7 games for Oldham this season?
Now 27 yo.

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What about Mark Kitching who has only played 7 games for Oldham this season?
Now 27 yo.

I thought I'd read somewhere he'd had a bad injury which has reduced his pace. If he cant even get into a team struggling near the foot of the NL why would we want him?


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Dodds has returned to Boro from us. Rumored to be heading your way. Very good at our level.


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We all know it's wages, you don't have to be a club insider to work it out, even fans of other clubs mention it. That's why we went shopping in Scotland. Nothing will change until raj sells up and I can't see that happening over night with him.

think that was the reason hartley also went back up there to recruit players he knew on the limited money available. then we also get told the club does not pay transfer fees because they pay the money in wages. begs the question to who and where the money does go.


Umerah was signed for a fee.


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We also paid an undisclosed fee for Marcus Carver, laughable though it sounds.


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We also paid an undisclosed fee for Marcus Carver, laughable though it sounds.

To be fair he had a good record in non league, so paying a fee was par for the course, but he couldn’t achieve the same success at this level.
Some players just don’t make the transition.

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Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
We also paid an undisclosed fee for Marcus Carver, laughable though it sounds.


Didn't we also get a fee when he was sold on?


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To be fair he had a good record in non league, so paying a fee was par for the course, but he couldn’t achieve the same success at this level.
Some players just don’t make the transition.

it might have helped if he had been 10 years younger when we signed him and not someone starting to reach the back end of their career whose league starts were in single figues nearly 10 years back. if he had been that good someone else would have taken a punt before pools did.


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Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
Bluestreak wrote:
What about Mark Kitching who has only played 7 games for Oldham this season?
Now 27 yo.

I thought I'd read somewhere he'd had a bad injury which has reduced his pace. If he cant even get into a team struggling near the foot of the NL why would we want him?

he hasn,t been at oldham that long to play many more games than that after starting the season at stockport. did have a problematic back injury where he was out for months and did come back a bit slower than he previous;y was and did not look as affective as he did.


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