Pools v Mansfield

Hartleblue · **Posted:** Mon Dec 26, 2022 6:07 pm

On a high after today so

Pools 2 Mansfield 1
5,350

ToTheHartlepool2-0 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:08 pm **Posts:** 1333

Pools 1 Mansfield Town 1 4,600 (550)

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 8934

2 2.
Happy wirh 1 point as i expect 3 v Harrogate.
4459.
UTP

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18947

i,d take a point now after yesterday but going for a mansfirld victory 2 nil.

Bluestreak · **Posted:** Tue Dec 27, 2022 3:37 pm

1-1 Hastie

4532

Ozzy Saltburn · **Joined:** Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:34 pm **Posts:** 3711

Mansfield would have to have a bad day at the office for us to beat them. A draw would be a good result. Another factor to consider is that Pools struggle to perform well in two consecutive games never mind three.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36418

They’re Mansfield, not ‘Real Mansfield’. Anything can happen.

medium · **Joined:** Fri Aug 20, 2010 11:32 am **Posts:** 129

Well said.P00ls are playing OK generally. Any result is possible.

paulus the woodgnome and a side salad · **Posted:** Wed Dec 28, 2022 1:35 pm

Is Josh Umerah suspended for this game?, booked again at Rochdale and think he may be missing..

Critical Thinking · **Joined:** Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:50 am **Posts:** 2309

Got 1-1 written all over it with 4600 in attendance

Flying Hogans · **Joined:** Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:29 pm **Posts:** 5390

paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:

Is Josh Umerah suspended for this game?, booked again at Rochdale and think he may be missing..

Don't think so. He's already served a one match ban for 5 bookings. Don't players have to rack up 10 bookings for a second suspension? Josh is only on 7.

He's scored twice against Harrogate this season and is due another (goal that is)

ToTheHartlepool2-0 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:08 pm **Posts:** 1333

Is Rhys Oates likely to play?

kebab & chips · **Posted:** Wed Dec 28, 2022 9:52 pm

Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

Mansfield would have to have a bad day at the office for us to beat them. A draw would be a good result. Another factor to consider is that Pools struggle to perform well in two consecutive games never mind three.

Mansfield have only won 2 in the last 9 & those were against Rochdale & Gillingham,by one goal.
We've won more.

Fensy · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:15 pm **Posts:** 6471

ToTheHartlepool2-0 wrote:

Is Rhys Oates likely to play?

He's started the last few games so it looks more than likely

Ozzy Saltburn · **Joined:** Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:34 pm **Posts:** 3711

kebab & chips wrote:

Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

Mansfield would have to have a bad day at the office for us to beat them. A draw would be a good result. Another factor to consider is that Pools struggle to perform well in two consecutive games never mind three.

Mansfield have only won 2 in the last 9 & those were against Rochdale & Gillingham,by one goal.
We've won more.

Fingers crossed, eh? I was just thinking, how many Pools players would get in the Mansfield side? Two or three?

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 8934

kebab & chips wrote:

Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

Mansfield would have to have a bad day at the office for us to beat them. A draw would be a good result. Another factor to consider is that Pools struggle to perform well in two consecutive games never mind three.

Mansfield have only won 2 in the last 9 & those were against Rochdale & Gillingham,by one goal.
We've won more.

We at an unpredictable stage now.
Which is a vast improvement from knowing we wernt goin to win for the majority of games this season.
Baby steps eh

UTP.

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 8934

Next step.
Would be nice to knock out back to back home wins before the end of season or am i a bit over ambitious.

Ozzy Saltburn · **Joined:** Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:34 pm **Posts:** 3711

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

kebab & chips wrote:

Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

Mansfield would have to have a bad day at the office for us to beat them. A draw would be a good result. Another factor to consider is that Pools struggle to perform well in two consecutive games never mind three.

Mansfield have only won 2 in the last 9 & those were against Rochdale & Gillingham,by one goal.
We've won more.

We at an unpredictable stage now.
Which is a vast improvement from knowing we wernt goin to win for the majority of games this season.
Baby steps eh

UTP.

Our record at the Vic against the top half sides is very poor. Bradford 1-3, Salford 0-2, Carlisle 1-3, Stockport 0-5.
Here's hoping we can start to change this trend this evening.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36418

Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

kebab & chips wrote:

Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

Mansfield would have to have a bad day at the office for us to beat them. A draw would be a good result. Another factor to consider is that Pools struggle to perform well in two consecutive games never mind three.

Mansfield have only won 2 in the last 9 & those were against Rochdale & Gillingham,by one goal.
We've won more.

We at an unpredictable stage now.
Which is a vast improvement from knowing we wernt goin to win for the majority of games this season.
Baby steps eh

UTP.

Our record at the Vic against the top half sides is very poor. Bradford 1-3, Salford 0-2, Carlisle 1-3, Stockport 0-5.
Here's hoping we can start to change this trend this evening.

Records aren’t cast in stone.

Ozzy Saltburn · **Joined:** Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:34 pm **Posts:** 3711

Yeah, I know records are not cast in stone which is why I said "Here's hoping we can can change the trend this evening". In football there is always hope. If you compare the playing records of Pools and Mansfield the inescapable conclusion is that they are better than us but then you factor in, home advantage, current team form, injuries, individual players form, weather conditions, refereeing etc it becomes less clear cut. Here's hoping.....

dstanley · **Joined:** Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:15 pm **Posts:** 677

Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

Yeah, I know records are not cast in stone which is why I said "Here's hoping we can can change the trend this evening". In football there is always hope. If you compare the playing records of Pools and Mansfield the inescapable conclusion is that they are better than us but then you factor in, home advantage, current team form, injuries, individual players form, weather conditions, refereeing etc it becomes less clear cut. Here's hoping.....

Harrogate beat them 3-0 last month so anything is possible. UTP

Flying Hogans · **Joined:** Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:29 pm **Posts:** 5390

Murray misses the game through illness and Shelton comes in. Unless he is going to play as an emergency centre back, the probable back 4 is Sterry-Menayese-Ferguson-Tumilty.

Either way it doesn't bear thinking about. Gonna stay home and watch this one on the iPlayer.

loyal_fan · **Joined:** Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:15 pm **Posts:** 3689

would thnk he drops Sylla into defence and shelton replaces him?
will miss sylla in midfield if so but he will be an upgrade on Murray

Def need a new center back asap in January

Flying Hogans · **Joined:** Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:29 pm **Posts:** 5390

1-0 Hamilton! Really pleased for the lad.

loyal_fan · **Joined:** Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:15 pm **Posts:** 3689

Battling well but Mansfield on top and feels like a goal coming

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18947

so far so good and shelton is having a decent game, something i have rarely said.

loyal_fan · **Joined:** Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:15 pm **Posts:** 3689

v good first half against one of the best in division.
Cooke and Sylla as usual pick of the bunch and nice to see Sterry back

Think shelton at the back may bite us on the arse and dont think much at all of tumility but hopefully some reinforcements soon

be pleasantly surprised if we take the 3 points but so much better than the last time we played mansfield this season

Flying Hogans · **Joined:** Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:29 pm **Posts:** 5390

There's more goals in this one.

Flying Hogans · **Joined:** Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:29 pm **Posts:** 5390

I wasn't wrong!!

loyal_fan · **Joined:** Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:15 pm **Posts:** 3689

ffs

sloppy from cooke unfortunately.....mansfield have changed formation and we havent dealt with it

barriewardrobe3 · **Joined:** Tue May 17, 2022 6:25 pm **Posts:** 303

Pity about the half time break.

loyal_fan · **Joined:** Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:15 pm **Posts:** 3689

Been coming, Sterry a big loss

barriewardrobe3 · **Joined:** Tue May 17, 2022 6:25 pm **Posts:** 303

I'm not at the game, but BBC stats says Mansfield 11 shots to our 3.

loyal_fan · **Joined:** Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:15 pm **Posts:** 3689

why is Missilou on in front of Odour....being polite he does not have the physique of a full back!

loyal_fan · **Joined:** Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:15 pm **Posts:** 3689

cooke needs to calm down
Ref not doing bad job at letting game flow---Mcdonald his usual self

thebigdog · **Joined:** Sat Aug 10, 2013 6:49 pm **Posts:** 1271

A finishing back 4 of Tumilty, Rollin, Ferguson & Missilou is as makeshift & underwhelming as it gets. The facts are that only one of those is good enough for the level in the position they are being deployed in. Even in their correct position, only Rollin & Ferguson should be playing in the football league.

Thought we battled well & the non-negotiable effort was there for all to see. Cooke & Sylla decent again, Hamilton also with lots of headers & knock-downs. On another night, we nick a point. Thankfully a flurry of late goals in League 2 mean none of our relegation rivals gain points on us. The home games against Harrogate, Rochdale & Colchester are relegation six-pointers with bells on.

Also, Oates is a beast - top, top footballer. Would transform our team.

Flying Hogans · **Joined:** Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:29 pm **Posts:** 5390

No surprise about the result at all. Mansfield would have had to be really poor all game not to take advantage of yet another enforced change in Pools' back line before kick off.

For me the madness of starting the season with only 3 centre backs is the main reason Pools are where they are at the minute. It was always asking for trouble. Menayese missed a load of games with injury, Lacey hasn't been seen since October with his shoulder problem. Murray has struggled for pace all season and playing Ferguson out of position has been a poor stop-gap at best.

Hope to God a decent centre back is the first new signing through the door next week.

ed-t-ball · **Posted:** Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:56 pm

This evening shows how you have to win the games against the teams around you in the league.
Basically the top half won and the bottom half lost.
Next game is important.

thebigdog · **Joined:** Sat Aug 10, 2013 6:49 pm **Posts:** 1271

Sterry almost certainly out of the Harrogate game too, and for how long will he be absent this time?

He's a game-changer and our best player but the injury record is going to stop him playing L1/Championship level.

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4376

Flying Hogans wrote:

No surprise about the result at all. Mansfield would have had to be really poor all game not to take advantage of yet another enforced change in Pools' back line before kick off.

For me the madness of starting the season with only 3 centre backs is the main reason Pools are where they are at the minute. It was always asking for trouble. Menayese missed a load of games with injury, Lacey hasn't been seen since October with his shoulder problem. Murray has struggled for pace all season and playing Ferguson out of position has been a poor stop-gap at best.

Hope to God a decent centre back is the first new signing through the door next week.

I wouldn't get excited. Be prepared to be very underwhelmed next week.

jgert · **Joined:** Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:31 pm **Posts:** 150

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

Flying Hogans wrote:

No surprise about the result at all. Mansfield would have had to be really poor all game not to take advantage of yet another enforced change in Pools' back line before kick off.

For me the madness of starting the season with only 3 centre backs is the main reason Pools are where they are at the minute. It was always asking for trouble. Menayese missed a load of games with injury, Lacey hasn't been seen since October with his shoulder problem. Murray has struggled for pace all season and playing Ferguson out of position has been a poor stop-gap at best.

Hope to God a decent centre back is the first new signing through the door next week.

I wouldn't get excited. Be prepared to be very underwhelmed next week.

Why? Do you know something?

RichyHpool · **Posted:** Fri Dec 30, 2022 12:45 am

I heard Matty Dolan is signing, maybe just a rumour we'll see. For me we need, 2 centre Half's, another versitle full back, another centre midfielder, a wide player and a different option up front. Oh and a keeper! Not asking for much!.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36418

A game of contrasting halves for Pools, a sharp difference between them performance wise, bit of a puzzler that and the substitutions made things actually worse.
It’s all been said above and I find nothing to disagree with but in the second half did Mansfield really need to overdo their pathetic theatrics and blatant time wasting….both their injured subs limped off in the same badly choreographed piss taking style.
Mind you, they’re a team I’ve disliked from day one fifty years ago.and can’t see me ever changing my mind. :laugh:

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18947

pools caught cold again after the break. apart from the result they battled well without creating much in open play. mansfield dl eserved all 3 points loke we did at rochdale. for me a home defeat with only one central defender starting would have happened to every other club in the league. the best available central defender is the number one priority in january.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18947

Snowy wrote:

Mind you, they’re a team I’ve disliked from day one fifty years ago.and can’t see me ever changing my mind. :laugh:

same here and for longer. mansfield have always been the same no matter who manages and plays for them. dour but seem to do just enough to win games with different generations of aggressive fans.

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4376

RichyHpool wrote:

I heard Matty Dolan is signing, maybe just a rumour we'll see. For me we need, 2 centre Half's, another versitle full back, another centre midfielder, a wide player and a different option up front. Oh and a keeper! Not asking for much!.

Matty Dylan Brad walker and a new keeper supposedly done deals. I'm hoping it's wrong but we do need a keeper.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18947

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

RichyHpool wrote:

I heard Matty Dolan is signing, maybe just a rumour we'll see. For me we need, 2 centre Half's, another versitle full back, another centre midfielder, a wide player and a different option up front. Oh and a keeper! Not asking for much!.

Matty Dylan Brad walker and a new keeper supposedly done deals. I'm hoping it's wrong but we do need a keeper.

its a big yes from me about the need for a new keeper as killip has never really had another one who realistically has been another option since he walked into the club.

RichyHpool · **Posted:** Fri Dec 30, 2022 1:05 pm

Definitely need another keeper, happy with Dolan but not so much brad walker

Bluestreak · **Posted:** Fri Dec 30, 2022 1:17 pm

ToTheHartlepool2-0 wrote:

Pools 1 Mansfield Town 1 4,600 (550)

Attendence 4599..............very close. I did not go so i assume you counted me

ToTheHartlepool2-0 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:08 pm **Posts:** 1333

Hey Bluestreak I said 504 for their lot as well. I would always count you in.

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