Listened to the first couple of minutes, load of waffle !

Around the 2 minute mark Challinor says that after the play-off final he wanted a 3 year contract to commit his future to HUFC. Raj didn't want to take the risk that if things didn't work out he'd be saddled with having to pay off the 3 year deal in full if he sacked him.

So the deal that was eventually agreed included a break clause after 1 year for both sides. Challinor says the deal he got from Pools didn't give him enough security to move his family up to the North-East so when the Stockport owner did make an offer of a long-term deal he took it. Guess that means the compensation Pools got for Challinor leaving was only for the remainder of that first season back in the EFL.

Can see it from both perspectives as there was no guarantee that Challinor would make the grade as a manager in League 2 - especially with Raj knowing that he only had limited resources to put into the playing side. Of course, it's easy to say with hindsight that Raj would have done far better to twist than to stick!

I suspect it’s irrelevant and he was off to Stockport regardless.

One thing that isn't in doubt or irrelevant is that Pools would have got a sight more compensation from Stockport for Challinor if he'd been offered a 3 year deal before last season started and signed it. As it was, the wrangling over contract terms went on for far too long and was an open invitation for another club to step in.

Like Snowy it seems to me that the pull of the North West was too strong. If Tranmere had been able to match Stockport he would have probably gone there as well. The guy moved on and we should be grateful for what he did whilst with us. I just didn't like all this arm waving like The Messiah and giving the impression he was around for a while while it appears that it was done and dusted. Pull me up if I am wrong but that's how I see it. Best way to deal with DC is to politely acknowledge his presence on Saturday and then smash his team. The point will be made. Did anyone else notice all the moves that were done and dusted before that Bristol City final? Oates to Mansfield, Armstrong to Harrogate and that Brazilian goon of a keep for Torquay who I believe went to Port Vale or some other god forsaken place. Oats made a big impression at first especially at Sunderland in the cup and we all know of Luke Armstrong. Haven't heard anything about the ex Torquay keeper and more recently, what is Mols doing at Donny?

To be fair, Armstrong wasn’t ever our player to begin with so where he went was out of Pools hands as He was sold on by his own club, were we offered the option of buying him, the same with Oates, the success raised his profile and the opportunity of a good contract and a move to his home area, which in all honesty is a big pull in any job for family/ domestic reasons too. Sometimes it isn’t just about the money, which some people tend to forget or don’t comprehend.

Im sure with a bit of ambition which requires a decent wage both players would of loved to committng themselves to Pools and play in front of a loud fanatical fanbase who worship them.
Honestly reckon we could of made the play offs last season if the Chairman backed the Managers which would of generated more income and wage rises would come out the xtra revenues of better gate receipts better Sponsorship Club Shop sales Executive Boxes full etc etc.
I know its Hindsight but theres nothing wrong with Hindsight even tho a few fans dont line it.
Instead we gamble with the cheapest option go into major freefall.
Lose about 1000+ fans and put our EFL status in jeopardy.
Theres was no need for it.
Like Billy says we missed a great opportunity to go forward. Looks like that ships well and truly sailed.
Now we stuck in reverse and need a minor miracle to avoid the dreaded drop.
Hindsight should = Learn from mistakes to avoid it happening again.
Some will agree/disagree.
The Bunkers all about Opinions
UTP.

[quote="Flying Hogans"]Around the 2 minute mark Challinor says that after the play-off final he wanted a 3 year contract to commit his future to HUFC. Raj didn't want to take the risk that if things didn't work out he'd be saddled with having to pay off the 3 year deal in full if he sacked him.

not prepared to take a risk on someone who was doing a good job but prepared to take a risk on two other appointments where compo has been paid out. do not get it and i seriously doubt we,d be in this situation if Challinor was given what he wanted. Challinor has been lucky as a player and manager where all the clubs apart from pools have been reasonable travelling distance from his home. others move around like travelling showmen to keep their careers going.

This argument will go on for years under the what if category…..doubt we’ll ever find out what happened….but we are where we are.
All that matters now is saving our place in the league…..’if only’ time is over, constant reminders of how it f#&ked up ain’t gonna change a thing, so unless someone invents a time machine we’d better cross our fingers, buy a rabbit’s foot, start praying and get behind what we’ve got.

It's the first time Challinor has opened up on what he believes happened and he's entitled to have his say.

I'm 100% behind Keith Curle and believe the chairman really will pull out all the stops in January to try to give Curle a decent chance to keep Pools up - the way he supported Challinor in our promotion season. If it doesn't work there'll be a load more recriminations and an uncertain future for the club.

we have little choice in that but for me if we do go down it will be a bigger disaster for the club and fans after the last 2 seasons than when it happened last time.

If it had not been Stockport then it will have been only a matter of time before DC, was lured away.
Good luck to him ,BUT NOT TOMORROW.

He and the rest of his staff gave us a time to be proud of, But KC is the gaffa now.

a problem all league clubs have to suffer. get a good manager and he,ll be poached by a bigger fish as quickly as a bad one gets found out and sacked. acyually lucky to have had him for the time we did, but it does make you wonder that with him being a bit of a home bird it could restrict further career moves for him. o for our version of gareth ainsworth or john coleman.

If the money is right any player or manager will move to wherever they are employed. It is simple. Obviously, Stockport were in a position to pay Challinor more than we were in a position to pay and the same with Oates. It is the way of the world unfortunately.

Im sure there was no Compo payed out due to the 6months probation period.
Good Honest interview from DC. Nice to get a bit of closure on it.
My Opinion is the gamble of not backing DC has cost us big style as 2 wins from 28 and bottom of the EFL proves.
Hopefully KC can work a bit of Magic.
And Raj can up his ambition.
UTP.

I think 3yr contracts at our level is very rare for both players and managers at our level.

In January Pools were offered Armstrong if they took on his contract from Salford they declined the offer, and he was sold to Harrogate at the end of the season. He wanted to stay at Pools but no offer was tabled and so went to a club approximately one-hour from his home.

If what you say is true (have no reason to doubt it) I can only think we simply could not afford to pay the wages he was on at Salford. I gather that when loan deals are agreed, the club taking the player on loan pay an agreed percentage of the loaned players wages. No idea what percentage of Armstrong's wages Pools were paying but I guess the full whack was too much. Maybe it would have smashed the wage structure and caused resentment amongst others; you can only speculate. Anyway, all water under the bridge now.