What people really want

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18947

Snowy wrote:

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At the end of the day there is no solution, we just don’t have enough staff to process them, it can take years.

The fit and able ones should be processed and deported not put to work…. This has to be sorted… not hand wringing and the white flag running up.[/quote]
when many like to call a home secretary cruella instead of her proper name you know you have a problem. is there something at the back of this affair that we do not know about. Have the dinghy divers themselves or government action caused the problem in the first place. do the british government really want to catch the people smugglers and what real attempts have there been to stop it. Cannot see the french being over keen to stop it as it helps there problem in more leaving and coming here. Funny how this was never an issue when we were in the EU. something just does not feel right to me as on top of the illegals there are still those attempting to get here by legal means. the guardian readers may love all this but the rest of us are sick to death of it all.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7089

Snowy wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

Yes secure accommodation is all very well and good but with the arrival in the numbers there just is not enough secure accommodation. Of course you start putting them in ‘secure’ accommodation the do gooders will start kicking off saying it’s inhumane. It’s not the first time the migrants have been put in similar accommodation and they set fire to it.
My niece runs a hotel in Bristol area for one of the big chains, they get around £80 a day for housing the migrants, oh and they complain about the food !
You reap what you sow, the U.K. backed the Arab spring, went to war with Iraq and supported the Americans in Afghanistan creating the current situation.
The fit and able ones should be made to take up some form of employment.
The latest numbers of recent indicate that the greatest number of migrants are Albanian who are not classed as asylum seekers but economic migrants, once identified they should be sent back.
At the end of the day there is no solution, we just don’t have enough staff to process them, it can take years.

The fit and able ones should be processed and deported not put to work…. This has to be sorted… not hand wringing and the white flag running up.

We don’t know where to deport them to as they have no identification documents, it’s the first thing the people smugglers tell them to do, throw them away. Remember a few months back a ‘kid’ was attending school, turned out he was 28 years old !
Don’t tell me in this day and age with technology the people smugglers can’t be detected ?

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18947

Jamie1952 wrote:

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We don’t know where to deport them to as they have no identification documents, it’s the first thing the people smugglers tell them to do, throw them away. Remember a few months back a ‘kid’ was attending school, turned out he was 28 years old !
Don’t tell me in this day and age with technology the people smugglers can’t be detected ?

a lot depends on the willingness of all countries involved to detect them. anyway the authorities over hear will believe anything if they cannot tell a 28 year old from a school kid. again do they want to believe everything they say. does make me wonder anyway. at the end of the day what does the average man in the street get out of them coming here. sod all but deep down someone is bound to do as no country with any sence throws away billions of pounds for nothing.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7089

accrington fan wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

My niece runs a hotel in Bristol area for one of the big chains, they get around £80 a day for housing the migrants, oh and they complain about the food !
You reap what you sow, the U.K. backed the Arab spring, went to war with Iraq and supported the Americans in Afghanistan creating the current situation.
The fit and able ones should be made to take up some form of employment.
The latest numbers of recent indicate that the greatest number of migrants are Albanian who are not classed as asylum seekers but economic migrants, once identified they should be sent back.
At the end of the day there is no solution, we just don’t have enough staff to process them, it can take years.

on your first point does your niece charge 80 quid a day in normal times. thought these were people coming from starvation and war torn countries where any square meal should be appreciated. they,ll be giving em a wine menu next. as for the albanians well i think we all know which economy they will be interested in and it will not be legal. the whole situation is so insane its hard to believe its happening. give it a couple of years and they,ll be trying to promote albanian culture and the showing how its enriching our lives. has anyone actually met anyone who thinks immigration has actually enriched our lives from anywhere.

If you read my post my niece only works for the company, it’s they who charge the government not her.
Yes immigration has enriched our lives and saved many how many Doctors, Nurses etc work in the NHS who are not U.K. citizens. The hospitality industry can’t get staff because freedom of movement is not allowed anymore likewise Care Homes and produce is rotting in the fields as there is no one to pick it.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36419

I ask myself, how would Putin handle this….

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7089

Snowy wrote:

I ask myself, how would Putin handle this….

Putin doesn’t have to deal with the woke brigade.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36419

Jamie1952 wrote:

Snowy wrote:

I ask myself, how would Putin handle this….

Putin doesn’t have to deal with the woke brigade.

In reality Mr A we don’t have to. Why do the authorities and big business bow down to a tiny minority of rabid gobshites….?

Sussex UK · **Joined:** Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:34 pm **Posts:** 3459

Jamie1952 wrote:

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If you read my post my niece only works for the company, it’s they who charge the government not her.
Yes immigration has enriched our lives and saved many how many Doctors, Nurses etc work in the NHS who are not U.K. citizens. The hospitality industry can’t get staff because freedom of movement is not allowed anymore likewise Care Homes and produce is rotting in the fields as there is no one to pick it.[/quote]

Plenty of care homes,nursing homes and hotels etc down here, they're all up and running.l haven't heard of any problems staffing them on the local news.

Grayhoundend · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:13 pm **Posts:** 6691

All this (woke)shite kicked off when blokes started wearing PINK, So you lot are to blame.

JoeKing aside this country is so out of touch with the rest of the world its laughable.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7089

Sussex UK wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

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If you read my post my niece only works for the company, it’s they who charge the government not her.
Yes immigration has enriched our lives and saved many how many Doctors, Nurses etc work in the NHS who are not U.K. citizens. The hospitality industry can’t get staff because freedom of movement is not allowed anymore likewise Care Homes and produce is rotting in the fields as there is no one to pick it.

Plenty of care homes,nursing homes and hotels etc down here, they're all up and running.l haven't heard of any problems staffing them on the local news.[/quote]

Not according to this article,
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-61413697

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22572

Grayhoundend wrote:

All this (woke)shite kicked off when blokes started wearing PINK, So you lot are to blame.

JoeKing aside this country is so out of touch with the rest of the world its laughable.

I used to have a pink suit. It was an eighties thing.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7089

Pink is the new black, has been for years.

Sussex UK · **Joined:** Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:34 pm **Posts:** 3459

Jamie1952 wrote:

Sussex UK wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

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If you read my post my niece only works for the company, it’s they who charge the government not her.
Yes immigration has enriched our lives and saved many how many Doctors, Nurses etc work in the NHS who are not U.K. citizens. The hospitality industry can’t get staff because freedom of movement is not allowed anymore likewise Care Homes and produce is rotting in the fields as there is no one to pick it.

Plenty of care homes,nursing homes and hotels etc down here, they're all up and running.l haven't heard of any problems staffing them on the local news.

Not according to this article,
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-61413697[/quote]

It's an old article,i can only speak about where i live now.It doesn't seem to be a problem now and the rents are a lot dearer down here

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36419

Jamie1952 wrote:

Sussex UK wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

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If you read my post my niece only works for the company, it’s they who charge the government not her.
Yes immigration has enriched our lives and saved many how many Doctors, Nurses etc work in the NHS who are not U.K. citizens. The hospitality industry can’t get staff because freedom of movement is not allowed anymore likewise Care Homes and produce is rotting in the fields as there is no one to pick it.

Plenty of care homes,nursing homes and hotels etc down here, they're all up and running.l haven't heard of any problems staffing them on the local news.

Not according to this article,
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-61413697[/quote]
It’s a BBC article, their world collapsed with Brexit…no one takes them seriously….holiday home in Tuscany etc etc…

Sussex UK · **Joined:** Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:34 pm **Posts:** 3459

Mr Irrelevant wrote:

Grayhoundend wrote:

All this (woke)shite kicked off when blokes started wearing PINK, So you lot are to blame.

JoeKing aside this country is so out of touch with the rest of the world its laughable.

I used to have a pink suit. It was an eighties thing.

A must for all the trendy London clubs at the time.Was your make up Bowie or Mick Karn inspired ?

Adam Ant waistcoat or Showaddywaddy drape coat ??

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36419

Sussex UK wrote:

Mr Irrelevant wrote:

Grayhoundend wrote:

All this (woke)shite kicked off when blokes started wearing PINK, So you lot are to blame.

JoeKing aside this country is so out of touch with the rest of the world its laughable.

I used to have a pink suit. It was an eighties thing.

A must for all the trendy London clubs at the time.Was your make up Bowie or Mick Karn inspired ?

Adam Ant waistcoat or Showaddywaddy drape coat ??

Nah …North Sea waterproofs on top of my overalls…. Mind the waterproofs we’re yellow.

Sussex UK · **Joined:** Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:34 pm **Posts:** 3459

Snowy wrote:

Sussex UK wrote:

Mr Irrelevant wrote:

Grayhoundend wrote:

All this (woke)shite kicked off when blokes started wearing PINK, So you lot are to blame.

JoeKing aside this country is so out of touch with the rest of the world its laughable.

I used to have a pink suit. It was an eighties thing.

A must for all the trendy London clubs at the time.Was your make up Bowie or Mick Karn inspired ?

Adam Ant waistcoat or Showaddywaddy drape coat ??

Nah …North Sea waterproofs on top of my overalls…. Mind the waterproofs we’re yellow.

Aye, it was all about image,Snowy..You must have looked great in the Village People.

Grayhoundend · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:13 pm **Posts:** 6691

Mr Irrelevant wrote:

Grayhoundend wrote:

All this (woke)shite kicked off when blokes started wearing PINK, So you lot are to blame.

JoeKing aside this country is so out of touch with the rest of the world its laughable.

I used to have a pink suit. It was an eighties thing.

Were you in "the sweet"

Grayhoundend · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:13 pm **Posts:** 6691

Jamie1952 wrote:

Pink is the new black, has been for years.

So people of color(hate the phrase) are now Pink

Grayhoundend · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:13 pm **Posts:** 6691

Sussex UK wrote:

Snowy wrote:

Sussex UK wrote:

Mr Irrelevant wrote:

Grayhoundend wrote:

All this (woke)shite kicked off when blokes started wearing PINK, So you lot are to blame.

JoeKing aside this country is so out of touch with the rest of the world its laughable.

I used to have a pink suit. It was an eighties thing.

A must for all the trendy London clubs at the time.Was your make up Bowie or Mick Karn inspired ?

Adam Ant waistcoat or Showaddywaddy drape coat ??

Nah …North Sea waterproofs on top of my overalls…. Mind the waterproofs we’re yellow.

Aye, it was all about image,Snowy..You must have looked great in the Village People.

He wasn,t in the village people i was, I was the Y

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36419

Sussex UK wrote:

Snowy wrote:

Sussex UK wrote:

Mr Irrelevant wrote:

Grayhoundend wrote:

All this (woke)shite kicked off when blokes started wearing PINK, So you lot are to blame.

JoeKing aside this country is so out of touch with the rest of the world its laughable.

I used to have a pink suit. It was an eighties thing.

A must for all the trendy London clubs at the time.Was your make up Bowie or Mick Karn inspired ?

Adam Ant waistcoat or Showaddywaddy drape coat ??

Nah …North Sea waterproofs on top of my overalls…. Mind the waterproofs we’re yellow.

Aye, it was all about image,Snowy..You must have looked great in the Village People.

Not so much the Village People, more like the Vicarage People…always praying for the weather to change. :laugh:

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7089

Snowy wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

Sussex UK wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

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If you read my post my niece only works for the company, it’s they who charge the government not her.
Yes immigration has enriched our lives and saved many how many Doctors, Nurses etc work in the NHS who are not U.K. citizens. The hospitality industry can’t get staff because freedom of movement is not allowed anymore likewise Care Homes and produce is rotting in the fields as there is no one to pick it.

Plenty of care homes,nursing homes and hotels etc down here, they're all up and running.l haven't heard of any problems staffing them on the local news.

Not according to this article,
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-61413697

It’s a BBC article, their world collapsed with Brexit…no one takes them seriously….holiday home in Tuscany etc etc…[/quote]

Loads of other articles about it not just the BBC,
https://www.communitycare.co.uk/2022/08 ... shortages/
https://www.carehome.co.uk/news/article ... omes-close

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36419

It’s history, move on, There’s plenty of holiday retreat exec’s in the meeeeeja monopoly to keep whining on about it……

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7089

Snowy wrote:

It’s history, move on, There’s plenty of holiday retreat exec’s in the meeeeeja monopoly to keep whining on about it……

It’s not history, it’s real time, the U.K. has a serious problem with shortages in skilled labour, Care Homes and of course the NHS, I don’t know what media outlets you consult Snowy but these are the facts wether you like it or not.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18947

think across the country there is a bigger shortage of labour in those jobs we say we,d never do em for a thousand pounds a week.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36419

Jamie1952 wrote:

It’s not history, it’s real time, the U.K. has a serious problem with shortages in skilled labour, Care Homes and of course the NHS..

We have problems because Phoney Tony wanted 50% of school leavers to go to Uni, hence every one horse town has given itself a Uni and now such jobs are below the graduates dignity.
Ironically the average plumber earns more than the average graduate.
It’s the new class system, I’ve got a degree don’tcha know.

Grayhoundend · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:13 pm **Posts:** 6691

Snowy wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

It’s not history, it’s real time, the U.K. has a serious problem with shortages in skilled labour, Care Homes and of course the NHS..

We have problems because Phoney Tony wanted 50% of school leavers to go to Uni, hence every one horse town has given itself a Uni and now such jobs are below the graduates dignity.
Ironically the average plumber earns more than the average graduate.
It’s the new class system, I’ve got a degree don’tcha know.

Train Driver is the way forward, Better for your knees.

Bluestreak · **Posted:** Mon Oct 31, 2022 11:19 am

The matchday lottery winning number to be shown on the display board at the town end/ millhouse side.
Why not?

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7089

Snowy wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

It’s not history, it’s real time, the U.K. has a serious problem with shortages in skilled labour, Care Homes and of course the NHS..

We have problems because Phoney Tony wanted 50% of school leavers to go to Uni, hence every one horse town has given itself a Uni and now such jobs are below the graduates dignity.
Ironically the average plumber earns more than the average graduate.
It’s the new class system, I’ve got a degree don’tcha know.

I agree 100% Snowy, I remember him saying education, education, education in a speech, politicians don’t live in the real world.
In my time very few kids went to uni, everyone who left school walked into a job, in those days the U.K. was an industrial nation, shipbuilding, steelworks, mining etc.
They used to employ apprentices by the hundreds and turn out qualified engineers as well, the Thatcher era put paid to all that.
We have now created apprentice shelf stackers and office workers demeaning the word apprenticeship. The U.K. is now only a country where the only jobs are in the Service Industries, sending the kids to uni keeps the unemployment figures down.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36419

Jamie1952 wrote:

I agree 100% Snowy, I remember him saying education, education, education in a speech, politicians don’t live in the real world.
In my time very few kids went to uni, everyone who left school walked into a job, in those days the U.K. was an industrial nation, shipbuilding, steelworks, mining etc.
They used to employ apprentices by the hundreds and turn out qualified engineers as well, the Thatcher era put paid to all that.
We have now created apprentice shelf stackers and office workers demeaning the word apprenticeship. The U.K. is now only a country where the only jobs are in the Service Industries, sending the kids to uni keeps the unemployment figures down.

I fume when I see companies and government of all party’s abusing the term ‘apprenticeship’. Mine lasted four years plus day release at college once a week and one night class once a week finishing at 9.30 pm at the Boro….. and the bus home violin

The great thing we were told by Tony was that those silly old shipyards, steelworks and engineering could be left to others while we tapped away on our keyboards.
And everyone fell for it……result, everyone think they’re too good for jobs that involve getting dirty and involving lifting anything heavier than a laptop.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7089

Snowy wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

I agree 100% Snowy, I remember him saying education, education, education in a speech, politicians don’t live in the real world.
In my time very few kids went to uni, everyone who left school walked into a job, in those days the U.K. was an industrial nation, shipbuilding, steelworks, mining etc.
They used to employ apprentices by the hundreds and turn out qualified engineers as well, the Thatcher era put paid to all that.
We have now created apprentice shelf stackers and office workers demeaning the word apprenticeship. The U.K. is now only a country where the only jobs are in the Service Industries, sending the kids to uni keeps the unemployment figures down.

I fume when I see companies and government of all party’s abusing the term ‘apprenticeship’. Mine lasted four years plus day release at college once a week and one night class once a week finishing at 9.30 pm at the Boro….. and the bus home violin

The great thing we were told by Tony was that those silly old shipyards, steelworks and engineering could be left to others while we tapped away on our keyboards.
And everyone fell for it……result, everyone think they’re too good for jobs that involve getting dirty and involving lifting anything heavier than a laptop.

In my day as an apprentice you were paired up with a journeyman for the first couple of years then you were given your own individual tasks to do.
Now a days apprentices are seen as an additional cost which companies are not prepared to pay for. I believe it’s a 2 year course at Tech College gaining no hands on experience whatsoever. They are then farmed out to companies and if they are lucky might be offered to finish of their apprenticeship.
I remember the days of the YTS, countless number of kids where taken on then thrown on the trash heap when the payments to the employer stopped.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7089

Snowy wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

I agree 100% Snowy, I remember him saying education, education, education in a speech, politicians don’t live in the real world.
In my time very few kids went to uni, everyone who left school walked into a job, in those days the U.K. was an industrial nation, shipbuilding, steelworks, mining etc.
They used to employ apprentices by the hundreds and turn out qualified engineers as well, the Thatcher era put paid to all that.
We have now created apprentice shelf stackers and office workers demeaning the word apprenticeship. The U.K. is now only a country where the only jobs are in the Service Industries, sending the kids to uni keeps the unemployment figures down.

I fume when I see companies and government of all party’s abusing the term ‘apprenticeship’. Mine lasted four years plus day release at college once a week and one night class once a week finishing at 9.30 pm at the Boro….. and the bus home violin

The great thing we were told by Tony was that those silly old shipyards, steelworks and engineering could be left to others while we tapped away on our keyboards.
And everyone fell for it……result, everyone think they’re too good for jobs that involve getting dirty and involving lifting anything heavier than a laptop.

In my day as an apprentice you were paired up with a journeyman for the first couple of years then you were given your own individual tasks to do.
Now a days apprentices are seen as an additional cost which companies are not prepared to pay for. I believe it’s a 2 year course at Tech College gaining no hands on experience whatsoever. They are then farmed out to companies and if they are lucky might be offered to finish of their apprenticeship.
I remember the days of the YTS, countless number of kids where taken on then thrown on the trash heap when the payments to the employer stopped.

Grayhoundend · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:13 pm **Posts:** 6691

Snowy wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

I agree 100% Snowy, I remember him saying education, education, education in a speech, politicians don’t live in the real world.
In my time very few kids went to uni, everyone who left school walked into a job, in those days the U.K. was an industrial nation, shipbuilding, steelworks, mining etc.
They used to employ apprentices by the hundreds and turn out qualified engineers as well, the Thatcher era put paid to all that.
We have now created apprentice shelf stackers and office workers demeaning the word apprenticeship. The U.K. is now only a country where the only jobs are in the Service Industries, sending the kids to uni keeps the unemployment figures down.

I fume when I see companies and government of all party’s abusing the term ‘apprenticeship’. Mine lasted four years plus day release at college once a week and one night class once a week finishing at 9.30 pm at the Boro….. and the bus home violin

The great thing we were told by Tony was that those silly old shipyards, steelworks and engineering could be left to others while we tapped away on our keyboards.
And everyone fell for it……result, everyone think they’re too good for jobs that involve getting dirty and involving lifting anything heavier than a laptop.

Mine was 4years at least as well, When you mention Tony are you refering to "Britains most notorious serial killer". Just asking.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36419

Grayhoundend wrote:

Snowy wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

I agree 100% Snowy, I remember him saying education, education, education in a speech, politicians don’t live in the real world.
In my time very few kids went to uni, everyone who left school walked into a job, in those days the U.K. was an industrial nation, shipbuilding, steelworks, mining etc.
They used to employ apprentices by the hundreds and turn out qualified engineers as well, the Thatcher era put paid to all that.
We have now created apprentice shelf stackers and office workers demeaning the word apprenticeship. The U.K. is now only a country where the only jobs are in the Service Industries, sending the kids to uni keeps the unemployment figures down.

I fume when I see companies and government of all party’s abusing the term ‘apprenticeship’. Mine lasted four years plus day release at college once a week and one night class once a week finishing at 9.30 pm at the Boro….. and the bus home.

The great thing we were told by Tony was that those silly old shipyards, steelworks and engineering could be left to others while we tapped away on our keyboards.
And everyone fell for it……result, everyone thinks they’re too good for jobs that involve getting dirty and involving lifting anything heavier than a laptop.

Mine was 4years at least as well, When you mention Tony are you refering to "Britains most notorious serial killer". Just asking.

Aye, Tony Blair…aka Bush’s Iraq poodle and PFI Tony.

Grayhoundend · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:13 pm **Posts:** 6691

Wonder if Tony is still married to GOLDFINGER.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36419

Grayhoundend wrote:

Wonder if Tony is still married to GOLDFINGER.

Must be…she reminds me of Cruella de Vil in 101 Dalmatians…bet he’s terrified of her.

Sussex UK · **Joined:** Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:34 pm **Posts:** 3459

Snowy wrote:

Grayhoundend wrote:

Wonder if Tony is still married to GOLDFINGER.

Must be…she reminds me of Cruella de Vil in 101 Dalmatians…bet he’s terrified of her.

I was shocked when she opened the door in just her nightie. tut

.Norma Major would never done this...

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18947

A lot of the problem where apprenticeships were can be traced back to the ending few years of heavy engineering. They hardly existed where the youngest lads on the shop floor were in their late 20,s. Possibly looking back its a good thing the country got rid of the traditional jobs as there would be less to fill vacancies now. Blairs idea of growing university places was only to fudge youth unemployment figures anyway but has caused more problems that he originally thought. Leave school at 18, get a degree, told you can do anything you want as the worlds your oyster. who is going to wipe arses in a care home after being indoctranated like that. its not the kids and youngens thats caused this its all governments for years.

Bluestreak · **Posted:** Tue Nov 01, 2022 11:16 am

Sussex UK wrote:

Snowy wrote:

Grayhoundend wrote:

Wonder if Tony is still married to GOLDFINGER.

Must be…she reminds me of Cruella de Vil in 101 Dalmatians…bet he’s terrified of her.

I was shocked when she opened the door in just her nightie. tut

.Norma Major would never done this...

I have met her at the opening of a hospital extension and was surprised how different she looked compared to all the press photos you see of her. There was non of this uplit shot making her look a bit sinister.

Oh and yes i did say the "opening of a hospital extension".............bet you aint heard that for a long time.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36419

Where….?

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7089

Snowy wrote:

Where….?

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/li ... 00-3492322

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7089

The number of asylum seekers who are eventually granted asylum in the U.K. is quite staggering compared France, 28%, Germany, 55.5%, Italy 50%, U.K. 77%, we must be a soft touch ?

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36419

See some of the ‘asylum seekers’ in Manston are to sue the government for their treatment…..advised by who exactly…..?

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18947

Jamie1952 wrote:

The number of asylum seekers who are eventually granted asylum in the U.K. is quite staggering compared France, 28%, Germany, 55.5%, Italy 50%, U.K. 77%, we must be a soft touch ?

the reason they come to the holiday isle in the first place. the 23 per cent refused must have the longest criminal record known to mankind. Just wonder if we had still been in the EU that this situation would either have not happened or the numbers more managable.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18947

Snowy wrote:

See some of the ‘asylum seekers’ in Manston are to sue the government for their treatment…..advised by who exactly…..?

knowing how things are now they,ll win their case.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7089

accrington fan wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

The number of asylum seekers who are eventually granted asylum in the U.K. is quite staggering compared France, 28%, Germany, 55.5%, Italy 50%, U.K. 77%, we must be a soft touch ?

the reason they come to the holiday isle in the first place. the 23 per cent refused must have the longest criminal record known to mankind. Just wonder if we had still been in the EU that this situation would either have not happened or the numbers more managable.

It wouldn’t have made any difference not unless the French are trying to make the U.K. suffer for leaving the EU.
900 arrived the other day, that must have been a large flotilla of boats leaving the French coast, don’t the the French coastguard or Police patrol the coast or do they turn a bling a blind eye and let them go as it solves some of their problems ?

Bluestreak · **Posted:** Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:20 am

"taking back control of our borders and sovereignty"

Grayhoundend · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:13 pm **Posts:** 6691

Jamie1952 wrote:

accrington fan wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

The number of asylum seekers who are eventually granted asylum in the U.K. is quite staggering compared France, 28%, Germany, 55.5%, Italy 50%, U.K. 77%, we must be a soft touch ?

the reason they come to the holiday isle in the first place. the 23 per cent refused must have the longest criminal record known to mankind. Just wonder if we had still been in the EU that this situation would either have not happened or the numbers more managable.

It wouldn’t have made any difference not unless the French are trying to make the U.K. suffer for leaving the EU.
900 arrived the other day, that must have been a large flotilla of boats leaving the French coast, don’t the the French coastguard or Police patrol the coast or do they turn a bling a blind eye and let them go as it solves some of their problems ?

Think you answered your own ?

Grayhoundend · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:13 pm **Posts:** 6691

Bluestreak wrote:

"taking back control of our borders and sovereignty"

And the people who voted for it fell for all the gobshites again, The naivety of people sometimes knows no bounds.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12320

What happens to these "flotillas " of boats? Surely we should be impounding them, destroying them and imprisoning their operators, at the very least.
The "Asylum" seekers are now complaining that they are being badly treated, not badly enough in my book. And guess who their biggest sympathisers are......the BBC of course.

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