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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 10:33 am 
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We are constantly bombarded by politicians spouting economic theory and generally talking bollocks but what do we as citizens really want?

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A deposit scheme for drinks cans and bottles (5p or 10p). This would remove a large amount of the litter that blights our country.
Kids could supplement their pocket money by collecting the ones that do get slung.

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Bluestreak wrote:
We are constantly bombarded by politicians spouting economic theory and generally talking bollocks but what do we as citizens really want?

For a starter;

A deposit scheme for drinks cans and bottles (5p or 10p). This would remove a large amount of the litter that blights our country.
Kids could supplement their pocket money by collecting the ones that do get slung.

spent many a boring time on the beach doing that and coming back off holiday with more than i took. too simple for politicians as they like to make hard work out of something simple like that. then tell the truth about net zero and 2030 and the real reason behind it and not just the green stuff either.


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Bluestreak wrote:
We are constantly bombarded by politicians spouting economic theory and generally talking bollocks but what do we as citizens really want?

For a starter;

A deposit scheme for drinks cans and bottles (5p or 10p). This would remove a large amount of the litter that blights our country.
Kids could supplement their pocket money by collecting the ones that do get slung.


Great idea.

If it started 39 years ago would of been some discount of me cans of Fosters.
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It's an old scheme,there was a return on an empty crate of newkie brown bottles back in the early 70's.


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I would ban interest free credit which isn’t actually free, buy now pay later schemes again where the price is inflated to allow this, store cards, reduce the limit on credit cards, lease deals on cars. The final ones would buy to let schemes, equity release plans and help to buy which is a big con as i pushed house prices up. Let’s get back to the real world where people can only buy what they can afford with out getting buried in debt.
In the old days people only bought what they could afford now we live in a very materialistic society.


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Bluestreak wrote:
We are constantly bombarded by politicians spouting economic theory and generally talking bollocks but what do we as citizens really want?

For a starter;

A deposit scheme for drinks cans and bottles (5p or 10p). This would remove a large amount of the litter that blights our country.
Kids could supplement their pocket money by collecting the ones that do get slung.

Now call me a cynic, but a deposit scheme would make no difference whatsoever, as a store would have to pay the administration costs of the scheme, a shambolic minefield looms……as for the average kids nowadays collecting old cans :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: , they don’t need the money and they definitely don’t have the stamina to bend over to pick ‘em up in the first place…just look how many kids get chauffeured to school and the traffic jams it causes, they must all have flat feet and no sense of direction.
Just employ someone to fine em….and what about the fast food cartons flung out of the car bought by mammy and daddy by the same people who’ll lecture you on saving the planet.

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I would ban interest free credit which isn’t actually free, buy now pay later schemes again where the price is inflated to allow this, store cards, reduce the limit on credit cards, lease deals on cars. The final ones would buy to let schemes, equity release plans and help to buy which is a big con as i pushed house prices up. Let’s get back to the real world where people can only buy what they can afford with out getting buried in debt.
In the old days people only bought what they could afford now we live in a very materialistic society.

These things are all made to drag people into a spiral of servicing debt and this is the sort of subject that should be taught at school aka … Practical Maths for life.

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We are constantly bombarded by politicians spouting economic theory and generally talking bollocks but what do we as citizens really want?

For a starter;

A deposit scheme for drinks cans and bottles (5p or 10p). This would remove a large amount of the litter that blights our country.
Kids could supplement their pocket money by collecting the ones that do get slung.

Now call me a cynic, but a deposit scheme would make no difference whatsoever, as a store would have to pay the administration costs of the scheme, a shambolic minefield looms……as for the average kids nowadays collecting old cans :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: , they don’t need the money and they definitely don’t have the stamina to bend over to pick ‘em up in the first place…just look how many kids get chauffeured to school and the traffic jams it causes, they must all have flat feet and no sense of direction.
Just employ someone to fine em….and what about the fast food cartons flung out of the car bought by mammy and daddy by the same people who’ll lecture you on saving the planet.


Cynic :laugh:

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Y’now it’s true :wink: :laugh:

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I would ban interest free credit which isn’t actually free, buy now pay later schemes again where the price is inflated to allow this, store cards, reduce the limit on credit cards, lease deals on cars. The final ones would buy to let schemes, equity release plans and help to buy which is a big con as i pushed house prices up. Let’s get back to the real world where people can only buy what they can afford with out getting buried in debt.
In the old days people only bought what they could afford now we live in a very materialistic society.

These things are all made to drag people into a spiral of servicing debt and this is the sort of subject that should be taught at school aka … Practical Maths for life.


Plays into politicians hands, keep the electorate debited up then they can’t afford to ‘revolt’
In most disputes eventually people are ‘starved’ back to work through lack of income, very few if any can sustain a long term dispute and the politicians know that.


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New Owners at Pools wirh ambition would be acceptable.


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New Owners at Pools wirh ambition would be acceptable.


Now thats taking it too far! :laugh:

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[quote="Snowy"][ they definitely don’t have the stamina to bend over to pick ‘em up in the first place…just look how many kids get chauffeured to school and the traffic jams it causes, they must all have flat feet and no sense of direction.

thats done also because parents want to make sure they get to school and not pretend they are. then the days of a five minute walk to school is over where if the kids are lucky its just one side of the town to the other they have to go.


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What about restoring the right for the cops to ram illegal off road bikes/quads no matter if they have a helmet or not.

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Bluestreak wrote:
What about restoring the right for the cops to ram illegal off road bikes/quads no matter if they have a helmet or not.


Agree 100%. Maybe in general give the police permission to behave like police rather than like everyone's best friend. For example, "robustly" remove those feckwits from the roads they are glued to without worrying about their mental health and well-being.


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Why not just ban them using or having anything using oil.
No phone, no car, no transport and even electric cars need lubrication, the list is endless.
I suspect they’re all extreme Puritanical masochists who’d get sexually aroused at the prospect of living the Neanderthal lifestyle….. without out animal skins and meat. :laugh:

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Euro lottery win for me. Give the manager £5m and Install Hartley's cockapoo in the managers seat as it would have more clue of a semblance of putting a team together than the shit shower management team Raj employed. I mean you try so hard to get out of the NL and then you throw your arms up giving it I gave them the scope to make all the mistakes and I shouldn't shoulder the blame? Totally supportive of the chairman till now but come on. When they were making those signings? Did he think they could turn shite into gold. Native stuff


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I think ‘native’ adds a bit interest. :wink:

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It does yeah. But whoever is sat between Raj and the manager need to go now.


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It does yeah. But whoever is sat between Raj and the manager need to go now. They've failed badly.


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Whoever it is, is making a living out of it of doing the square root of bugger all.

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Bluestreak wrote:
What about restoring the right for the cops to ram illegal off road bikes/quads no matter if they have a helmet or not.



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What about a total ban on fireworks.
Hartlepool council who constantly moans about its financial deficit is putting on the Seaton Carew firework display.........FFS

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What about a total ban on fireworks.
Hartlepool council who constantly moans about its financial deficit is putting on the Seaton Carew firework display.........FFS

Is it the Councils responsibility…NO…… if someone wants to fund one fair enough.
Will Sunderland Council be banning theirs, because the average firework display spews out more crap than the airshow. :laugh:

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What about a total ban on fireworks.
Hartlepool council who constantly moans about its financial deficit is putting on the Seaton Carew firework display.........FFS

whilst i agree on that who the hell are going to police it. so much stuff is against the law but little gets done to them that break it. even shoplifting is regarded as something minor. however upsetting someone on the tippy tappy or driving a few MPH over the speed limit then they,ll have you banged to rights. as for the council moaning about loss making events most of em are experts at organising em for minorities we have little interest in.


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Is it the Councils responsibility…NO…… if someone wants to fund one fair enough.
Will Sunderland Council be banning theirs, because the average firework display spews out more crap than the airshow. :laugh:

even then it will be far less than the average council meeting where the brains of towns meet up.


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What about a total ban on fireworks.
Hartlepool council who constantly moans about its financial deficit is putting on the Seaton Carew firework display.........FFS

whilst i agree on that who the hell are going to police it. so much stuff is against the law but little gets done to them that break it. even shoplifting is regarded as something minor. however upsetting someone on the tippy tappy or driving a few MPH over the speed limit then they,ll have you banged to rights. as for the council moaning about loss making events most of em are experts at organising em for minorities we have little interest in.

Some of the fireworks must be surplus Chinese Army cruise missiles…. The lad two doors up from us showed me what had landed in his garden last year, an intact spent rocket which if it hit you would have spoilt your day for definite.

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possibly with fireworks its the only time people actually see their money going up in smoke. anyway its all a bit premature as we have hallow bloody een to get through first/


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possibly with fireworks its the only time people actually see their money going up in smoke. anyway its all a bit premature as we have hallow bloody een to get through first/

Don’t get me going on Halloween, it’s my bloody birthday and you can’t go out or a meal because every pub is full of plastic cobwebs, screaming tired kids and parents dressed up like Gomez and Morticia Addams…..
The Yanks have a lot to answer for :evil:

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possibly with fireworks its the only time people actually see their money going up in smoke. anyway its all a bit premature as we have hallow bloody een to get through first/

Don’t get me going on Halloween, it’s my bloody birthday and you can’t go out or a meal because every pub is full of plastic cobwebs, screaming tired kids and parents dressed up like Gomez and Morticia Addams…..
The Yanks have a lot to answer for :evil:


Ask anyone what Halloween is about or Guy Fawkes, in fact the average kid won’t know why we ‘celebrate’ Christmas or Easter. I don’t even think schools put Christmas Trees up or have Nativity plays or anything that relates to Easter. Even the the shopping certain had to tone down their Christmas display in case it offended people of other cultures.


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Snowy wrote:
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What about a total ban on fireworks.
Hartlepool council who constantly moans about its financial deficit is putting on the Seaton Carew firework display.........FFS

Is it the Councils responsibility…NO…… if someone wants to fund one fair enough.
Will Sunderland Council be banning theirs, because the average firework display spews out more crap than the airshow. :laugh:


Who is funding the event?

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Bluestreak wrote:
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What about a total ban on fireworks.
Hartlepool council who constantly moans about its financial deficit is putting on the Seaton Carew firework display.........FFS

Is it the Councils responsibility…NO…… if someone wants to fund one fair enough.
Will Sunderland Council be banning theirs, because the average firework display spews out more crap than the airshow. :laugh:


Who is funding the event?

Just read the blurb on the fireworks in the paper and no where does it mention any sponsorship, so I can only assume we’re paying for it.

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Snowy wrote:
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Snowy wrote:
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What about a total ban on fireworks.
Hartlepool council who constantly moans about its financial deficit is putting on the Seaton Carew firework display.........FFS

Is it the Councils responsibility…NO…… if someone wants to fund one fair enough.
Will Sunderland Council be banning theirs, because the average firework display spews out more crap than the airshow. :laugh:


Who is funding the event?

Just read the blurb on the fireworks in the paper and no where does it mention any sponsorship, so I can only assume we’re paying for it.


If the council are footing this costs its a disgrace. I would like to know how much it costs £ :angry-fire: :angry-fire:

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Bluestreak wrote:
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Bluestreak wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Bluestreak wrote:
What about a total ban on fireworks.
Hartlepool council who constantly moans about its financial deficit is putting on the Seaton Carew firework display.........FFS

Is it the Councils responsibility…NO…… if someone wants to fund one fair enough.
Will Sunderland Council be banning theirs, because the average firework display spews out more crap than the airshow. :laugh:


Who is funding the event?

Just read the blurb on the fireworks in the paper and no where does it mention any sponsorship, so I can only assume we’re paying for it.


If the council are footing this costs its a disgrace. I would like to know how much it costs £ :angry-fire: :angry-fire:


Won’t be much change out of £10k, Councils are soft touches, it’s not their money so good at spending it, Middlesbrough have cancelled theirs I believe.


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£10k =Thats 3225 pints of Strongarm in the Corner Flag!!!

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That’s a whole AGM’s worth of beer :shock: !!!!

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Ask anyone what Halloween is about or Guy Fawkes, in fact the average kid won’t know why we ‘celebrate’ Christmas or Easter. I don’t even think schools put Christmas Trees up or have Nativity plays or anything that relates to Easter. Even the the shopping certain had to tone down their Christmas display in case it offended people of other cultures.

its about time any of this offended mob get a bloody life. plenty of lights and celebrations round my area for eastern festivals which schools partake in. most of us could not care less and i doubt they could regarding ours. know asians who hate christmas, not because of what it stands for, but the extra cost to them as their kids want presents for their festivals and then christmas as well. its a laugh really as their kids are surrounded by other asians mates in the lead up to their stuff then whe white mates appear on the run up to christmas.


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Don’t get me going on Halloween, it’s my bloody birthday and you can’t go out or a meal because every pub is full of plastic cobwebs, screaming tired kids and parents dressed up like Gomez and Morticia Addams…..
The Yanks have a lot to answer for :evil:

having a slight resemblance to christopher lee with a bit of bela lugosi in the mix it should be my big day of the year. however anything to do with yanks rubs me up the wrong way. halloween, proms and the constant use of their spelling of words winds me up. so much i constantly alter any american spellings back to ours. drive thru is drive through.


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possibly with fireworks its the only time people actually see their money going up in smoke. anyway its all a bit premature as we have hallow bloody een to get through first/

Don’t get me going on Halloween, it’s my bloody birthday and you can’t go out or a meal because every pub is full of plastic cobwebs, screaming tired kids and parents dressed up like Gomez and Morticia Addams…..



At least it wasn't Xmas eve or Xmas Day ..even worse New Years day when nobody would give a shite about celebrating your birthday. :wink:


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Don’t get me going on Halloween, it’s my bloody birthday and you can’t go out or a meal because every pub is full of plastic cobwebs, screaming tired kids and parents dressed up like Gomez and Morticia Addams…..
The Yanks have a lot to answer for :evil:

having a slight resemblance to christopher lee with a bit of bela lugosi in the mix it should be my big day of the year. .



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I can’t understand when this nonsense started why these people were not detained in secure accommodation from the outset instead of four star hotels.
This would act as an encouragement to others if illegals are detained securely till their status is agreed.
This whole sorry business has been conducted in the wrong way, and as a Dutch policeman commented, the UK being the only country in Europe not to insist on having ID cards is a magnet for those wishing to join in the black/spiv economy.. Europeans are accustomed to ID cards after being occupied in various conflicts over the past century and see no problem with them.

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Yes secure accommodation is all very well and good but with the arrival in the numbers there just is not enough secure accommodation. Of course you start putting them in ‘secure’ accommodation the do gooders will start kicking off saying it’s inhumane. It’s not the first time the migrants have been put in similar accommodation and they set fire to it.
My niece runs a hotel in Bristol area for one of the big chains, they get around £80 a day for housing the migrants, oh and they complain about the food !
You reap what you sow, the U.K. backed the Arab spring, went to war with Iraq and supported the Americans in Afghanistan creating the current situation.
The fit and able ones should be made to take up some form of employment.
The latest numbers of recent indicate that the greatest number of migrants are Albanian who are not classed as asylum seekers but economic migrants, once identified they should be sent back.
At the end of the day there is no solution, we just don’t have enough staff to process them, it can take years.


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Yes secure accommodation is all very well and good but with the arrival in the numbers there just is not enough secure accommodation. Of course you start putting them in ‘secure’ accommodation the do gooders will start kicking off saying it’s inhumane. It’s not the first time the migrants have been put in similar accommodation and they set fire to it.
My niece runs a hotel in Bristol area for one of the big chains, they get around £80 a day for housing the migrants, oh and they complain about the food !
You reap what you sow, the U.K. backed the Arab spring, went to war with Iraq and supported the Americans in Afghanistan creating the current situation.
The fit and able ones should be made to take up some form of employment.
The latest numbers of recent indicate that the greatest number of migrants are Albanian who are not classed as asylum seekers but economic migrants, once identified they should be sent back.
At the end of the day there is no solution, we just don’t have enough staff to process them, it can take years.


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Don’t get me going on Halloween, it’s my bloody birthday and you can’t go out or a meal because every pub is full of plastic cobwebs, screaming tired kids and parents dressed up like Gomez and Morticia Addams…..
The Yanks have a lot to answer for :evil:

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The masters of horror mr accy,impressive.. Does everybody give you a wide berth when out walking the dog ? sctatchinghead

only between sunset and sunrise. seriously though i never got any shit from kids when i did school buses and far less than most other refs got from players during games. frightened my sister shitless one night as she came back from the pictures when she had to pass the graveyard on her way home. never saw anyone run as fast in high heels.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
My niece runs a hotel in Bristol area for one of the big chains, they get around £80 a day for housing the migrants, oh and they complain about the food !
You reap what you sow, the U.K. backed the Arab spring, went to war with Iraq and supported the Americans in Afghanistan creating the current situation.
The fit and able ones should be made to take up some form of employment.
The latest numbers of recent indicate that the greatest number of migrants are Albanian who are not classed as asylum seekers but economic migrants, once identified they should be sent back.
At the end of the day there is no solution, we just don’t have enough staff to process them, it can take years.

on your first point does your niece charge 80 quid a day in normal times. thought these were people coming from starvation and war torn countries where any square meal should be appreciated. they,ll be giving em a wine menu next. as for the albanians well i think we all know which economy they will be interested in and it will not be legal. the whole situation is so insane its hard to believe its happening. give it a couple of years and they,ll be trying to promote albanian culture and the showing how its enriching our lives. has anyone actually met anyone who thinks immigration has actually enriched our lives from anywhere.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
Yes secure accommodation is all very well and good but with the arrival in the numbers there just is not enough secure accommodation. Of course you start putting them in ‘secure’ accommodation the do gooders will start kicking off saying it’s inhumane. It’s not the first time the migrants have been put in similar accommodation and they set fire to it.
My niece runs a hotel in Bristol area for one of the big chains, they get around £80 a day for housing the migrants, oh and they complain about the food !
You reap what you sow, the U.K. backed the Arab spring, went to war with Iraq and supported the Americans in Afghanistan creating the current situation.
The fit and able ones should be made to take up some form of employment.
The latest numbers of recent indicate that the greatest number of migrants are Albanian who are not classed as asylum seekers but economic migrants, once identified they should be sent back.
At the end of the day there is no solution, we just don’t have enough staff to process them, it can take years.

The fit and able ones should be processed and deported not put to work…. This has to be sorted… not hand wringing and the white flag running up.

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