Interesting that Jamie's initial post has gotten deleted. Plenty worse said on here down the years that's stayed up. I guess it's OK if you abuse someone who isn't a Tory MP...

Did you read it?

Life always has been and Always will be.
Different rules for different people.

Quite true Mr KPG, just like different treatment by different people for different public figures, depending which side different people support.
Pot calling the kettle grimy arse comes to mind.
Considering very few posts get taken down there is much leeway on here but we have to be careful. Saying things in the pub when having a few pints with yer mates is one thing, putting it in print on a public forum is quite a different scenario.
It wasn't taken down because it involved MP's of any description.
If that was the case dozens of anti Bojo posts would have been removed and to a lesser extent anti Starmer/Corbyn posts, so remarks that suggest that are way off beam.

Mogg doesn’t understand why people should be paid holiday pay and Truss thinks all unions are militant,
https://youtu.be/KnS5mNbTZBo

I knew a bloke who was employed as a van driver. We were chatting over a pint and the conversation went over to holidays. He said "I don't have any holidays", I asked him what sort of tin pot outfit he worked for and he said the firm he worked for was the best employer he had come across and nowhere near the word tinpot.
It turned out that this bloke had been asked when he was going to fill in his holiday form as he was the only person who hadn't done so. He went to the boss man and told him he didn't want any holidays and would rather be at work.
They came to an agreement that he would work his holidays, still get holiday pay and his normal weekly wage as well. He was chuffed to bits.
I don't know how legal that was but both parties were happy and that's how it was.
I wonder how many more people would be happy with that scenario. I also wonder how many people take the company holidays and get a bit of part time work until it's time to go back.

People like that will get holidays done away with, most reputable wouldn’t pay you holiday pay and a his normal weekly wage.

Unless he was an inspector in an Harem, he should be sectioned under the Mental Health Act.

In reality, he had to be single. The family cry “where are we going on holiday?” would be wasted. Unless they went to work with him.

He was single. It's not difficult to see why with an attitude like his.

Well thankfully he hasn't got holidays done away with and nobody knows everything that goes on. Even a well travelled, intelligent, thoughtful and honest chap like you, young Jamie. I always thought P&O were a reputable company until recently.

new one just like him on the buses in the 70,s. his nickname was grabber or night and day depending on who you spoke to. he,d do every bit of overtime available and hung around the office after shifts just in case something turned up. was a bloody nuisance and work was given to anyone else if it could be done. once said to him that if he was so keen on money he could go one manning but refused to do so. something i could never fathom as he ended up nowhere near the top earner for a year even after all his efforts. he was married as well with a couple of kids just under the teens so it wasn,t babies he was trying to avoid.

I knew a bloke who worked for NES, he didnt take a day off for 7 years. He always woshed there was an 8 day week

There are more than people think.

I knew several people like this in the 70’s and 80’s….one took his family on holiday to Filey on the Friday night , but drove back early next morning drove back to work the 5 hours he was still allowed to work before his holiday kicked in.
Importantly for me, ALL the people I worked with then who were addicted to overtime were so greedy, they never spent it and we’re right tight wads.

do tink some get an orgasem when their bank statement comes through and their balance increases. i,m more charles dickens, a pound coming in and 19/11 going out. my ambition in life is going out with what i came in with. bugger all.

I used to say to people shrouds don’t have pockets, you are a long time dead, life is not a dress rehearsal but it was like water of a ducks to them.
Most said they get bored sitting about the house all day if not at work similar to people to work after they should retire although some of them might need the money to top up our very poor State Pension.

more likely they have no friends or interests away from where they worked. plenty come back regularly just to sit in the canteen to have a natter and catch up once they retire and you see more of em than when they actually worked. my problem was lack of time to do non work related stuff and when i eventually got the time i had less money to spend on them and dropped a few.

It’s not been mentioned but some people have mental health problems, in my working years there were quite a few who had alcohol and gambling addiction but there was no support for them, in general people just mocked them.

If you make work your sole focus you won’t last long after you retire….. you have to have interests outside of work, you’re either in the ‘work to live or live to work’ once my mother retired from school she was lost and died just aged 72…..I’m amazed at the number of lads I worked with who are totally lost now their working life is over, but fail to realise a new working life is beginning except you’re the boss, maybe they can’t cope with not having a boss.
I was looking forward to retiring aged 19, there was things I wanted to do, doing that now.

Mini Budget on Friday.
Hopefully the working man/woman is a few quids better off.
Will the 1.25% health tax xtra NI contributions get scrapped for October or delayed to April.
Pensioners pay rise announced in October once they fiddle the inflation rate.
9.9% now.
More like 25% plus.
Fiddling bastads.

The working man is way down the pecking order, chancellor Kwasi Kwarteng is considering removing the cap on bankers' bonuses in a bid to stop a brain drain of top City executives to other international financial centres including Paris. The cap was introduced by the EU in 2014 in response the 2008 financial crash, restricts bankers’ bonuses to twice their salary. Now we have left the EU the cap can be removed, another ‘benefit’ of leaving the EU.
I can’t see the triple lock on the State Pension being reinstated, the governments opinion will the country can’t afford it.

the country cannot afford it in the same way councils can never afford doing this or that. funny though how they can dig up the money for stuff the average man in the street has no interest for and it helps them in their lives.

I believe Parking Permits have gone from £5 to £15, you have to pay to park outside your own house if you live in the town centre, shocking !

thats bloody cheap. when i moved from rugby in 2003 it was over 30 quid a year. mind you we were asked if we wanted residents parking but never told us how much it would cost. only problem was was that it was only in force between 8am and 6pm monday to friday so never helped overnight parking or weekends either when most were at home.

I live in the centre of York cost me £139 per year for my car to park in the Bootham R33 it’s going next year use it less and less.

Keep your wig on, this will mean they’ll be paying 47% tax on any bonuses and if any firm wants to pay an employee a bonus that’s their choice. What business was it of the EU or the government what a company pays. It was imposed in 2008 to make governments look all moral and concerned, my arse, just a cheap bit of moralising by politicians of all people.
Plus, higher bonuses will attract new talent, trade and company’s from the EU to the City and more tax….do the maths.

Financial sector companies are moving out of the U.K. not the other way Snowy, even U.K. Passports are printed by a France company now.

Moving in the opposite direction – i.e. from the UK into the EU – capital markets think tank New Finance has counted 332 firms in the UK that have moved or are moving some of their business, staff, assets or legal entities from the UK into the EU in order to get ready for Brexit.

They’re printed in France because a gormless goverment played by EU rules, can’t see France doing that….and took the contract off the original producers in Gateshead.
I got the background off an employee of the company on holiday. Very interesting.
Stupid C&#@s.
You really are in awe of the EU, try reading a wide set of sources of information instead of those that tell you what you want hear about the joys of Europe……. you’ll get a surprise.

I am not in awe of the E.U. the man in street has no idea how it operates, they believe what they read in the media. In years to come we will come to regret voting leave, it won’t affect you or me as we will be pushing daisies up.
Snowy I like the craic you bring to the Bunker but you and me will never agree when it comes to the EU, let’s leave the conversation there as it could go for ever.

I am not in awe of the E.U. the man in street has no idea how it operates, they believe what they read in the media. In years to come we will come to regret voting leave, it won’t affect you or me as we will be pushing daisies up.
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Says who Nostradamus ? Mystic Meg??


There's a rise in Euroscepticism across Europe mr jamie,who's feeding you this propaganda?

Says who Nostradamus ? Mystic Meg??


There's a rise in Euroscepticism across Europe mr jamie,who's feeding you this propaganda? [/quote]

Propaganda, explain to me the current benefits, long queues at Dover etc as more paperwork required, roaming charges for Mobiles for the EU scrapped, pound at its lowest level for years, staff shortages as all workers from outside the U.K. require a visa.

The French owned up to the cock up.I'm not taking my next holiday in the EU.Turbulent times for all currencies,we need pick up against the dollar.Unemployment in the UK lowest since when?

And no massive bill to subsidise the rest of Europe as only us and Germany were paying into the pot with the rest taking out.
Now the beneficiaries are having to pay out instead of waiting for their annual Eurogiro.

Snowy where has all the money gone now
we don’t pay, the £350 million a week on the red bus which was going to help the NHS ? The Tories only supported brexit because if they hadn’t they would have lost the election in fact Truss was a remainer initially bearing she does flip flop as she was a Liberal in her early days.

Er, Covid wasn’t cheap, followed by Putin’s energy game…..you really should see the EU’s numbers, they aren’t any different to us.

The U.K. has reserve funds, you mean to say if we hadn’t left the EU we couldn’t have funded Covid or contributed to the Ukraine war ?
9000 businesses have stopped exporting to the EU because of the red tape others are closing up shop and moving to an EU country.

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I am not in awe of the E.U. the man in street has no idea how it operates, they believe what they read in the media.
that was the problem from day 1 having to have the reforendum a total lack of knowledge on the subject no matter which way you voted. do think the remainers still think of the other side being thick uneducated morons whilst they know it all because the guardian is always right. they knew no more than the rest and like the rest only read things that underlined their opinions and made em more deep routed. it split the country and even after all these years its still split. having that vote for me is worse than whatever way the result went. remaining and have a real wish to reform an imperfect organisation would have been the better way forward but do not think the pro eu brigade ever had a real interest in reforming.

So Jamie1952 was right...and Kwarteng didn't last after all.

There is a coconut winging it's way towards him as we speak.

Truss will be lucky to see the month out, going by opinion polls which tbh i take with a pinch salt if there was a GE the Tories would end up with single figures MPs in Parliament.

You must be very worried about that Jamie cos you want them back to sort out the mess they have created. I might join you. Should we start a campaign to get Boris back??
Hows about a Starmer/Davey/Blackford coalition. Would you demand pick of the litter if ever those three got into bed together.

As I said before I don’t particularly want Labour back, why should they sort the mess out yes we have had Covid, Ukraine war but the Tories have been in power since 2010.
I don’t see Starmer as an inspirational leader, bit like a wet blanket but who else is there ?Labour if they got back in would be ridiculed by the right wing press then the Tories would be back starting the whole merry go round again.

if votors totally believe everything they read or hear in the media they deserve what they get. problem is they,ll bring the rest of us unbelievers down.

If you are serious about wanting the Tories to sort out the mess you believe they have created then the logical thing for you is to help them back, so the big question is are you going to vote Tory.

Bring back Kwasi.
This new chancellor just put a lot of people into financial harder times from April.
Refer to bbc website.
2 year energy cap gone from 2 years to 6 months.
Tax on alcohol to go up.
Income tax staying at 20p in the pound.
The bastad.
Raj Singh for PM.

I've put your name forward Kevin.

If beer goes up then I will never vote for the tories.
A man can only take so much.

What about dog licences…I’ve promised him a car.

From April average energy bills predicted to rise to £4347 with only lower income households getting help.
Most probably none workers n pensioners.
Add in the Council Tax rise at the same time.
Surely protests n riots on the way against this horrendous government who blame everything on Putin.

It’s a global problem , it’s just the same in France at present.
Putin is no social worker, anyone prepared to come out and even mention using nuclear weapons is in my mind unbalanced.