I didn't know that. Well, if he keeps the upward trend going, he is obviously well placed to get the job permanently. Lets see where we are in January.

same with me. anyway its not like the lee situation of just carrying on with the work someone else did, curle really had to start from scratch and so far its working. he aint going to draw and win every game, but when we lose its not the loss but how we did lose thats important.

Actually I've been here for a while... always like to see what the Chimp Suspenders are up to, and was particularly interested in seeing how you were finding our former manager, since I thought he was an excellent appointment to take your squad by the scruff and drag them out of danger, only to see that Billy Paynter is still stirring the shit about Curle years after their fall out. You not wonder why after one year at Carlisle and two at Hartlepool, seven years ago he felt motivated to comment on Curle's appointment and to try and drag Sweeney's name into it too? The reason I posted was mainly to say that the beef was between Paynter and Curle and nothing to do with Sweeney.

As I tried to tell you, I don't really care whether it was extra training or alternative training or whatever you want to call it, and legally Paynter was probably the one in the right. Paynter had been assured when he signed for Carlisle that he could do less training and it may have been written in his contract giving Curle no leg to stand on. This was ultimately the fault of Graham Kavanagh who faced the same problem many managers do in attracting players to the football league's 'northern outpost', but his solution of offering an easy life to players who didn't really want to be here was deemed unacceptable to Curle who tried to rectify it. Curle is a hard taskmaster and he likely expected players who didn't want to suffer relegation to agree with him and either move to Carlisle during the week (the club owns several houses which players can use for free) or get up earlier to be in training on time. He was asking them to do something they weren't contractually obliged to do for the good of the club, the fans, and their own careers and yes he played hardball with those who refused but sometimes that's what is required. He led us to survival and I'm sure he'll lead you to survival too.

Paynter did alright for Hartlepool, though 17 goals in 53 appearances is hardly excellent for an out-and-out striker but that was a different club, different manager, and Paynter will have gone into contract negotiations with different expectations. I'm sure if he hadn't been told he could skip training by Kavanagh he would never have signed for us to begin with.

cumbrian.."As I tried to tell you, I don't really care whether it was extra training or alternative training or whatever you want to call it"

..yep..you dont really care because you have decided who the bad guy is and who deserves blame..the facts don't interest you mate..you have decided that paynter treated training at your club like a "holiday camp"..and based on what exactly? ...you don't say just offer your assertion this is the way it was..fact according to you without anything to substantiate it..same with sweeney...paynter suggests it wasn't just him who was "treated like crap"..he was there you were not but according to you what does that matter..you claim it was just lazy old billy boy because that fits with your agenda...still say you are just a sad and bitter old sheep shagger with nothing better to do pal..anyways tbh nobody on here cares anyhow so do us a favour and head off back to the fields...btw disgraceful the way your lot trashed our seats like and no compo offered either...plenty of witnesses but no culprits identified by plod to make matters even worse..scandalous

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I don’t see the point here.
I don’t care what happened a Carlisle.
I want to see what Curle can do for us, this pointless digging up of the past serves no purpose whatsoever.
If Curle has high expectations, good.

Shades of the 'Raj Singh destroyed Darlington FC' saga. Poolies care about the ins and outs of all this about as much as Stockport fans worry about Dave Challinor reneging on his Pools contract. This weekend's results matter far more.

I'm not digging up the past here... just made a comment to refute an allegation that there had been bad blood at Carlisle between your current manager and one of his backroom staff. You seem obsessed with upturning every stone in search of the truth of a dispute that took place years ago at a different club... the main reason I'm bothering to argue back is because one or two of your fellow fans seemed to agree and also because you turned to namecalling right from the off as though you're offended that I even have an account here.

You're reframing almost every single thing I've said to fit your narrative about a bitter Carlisle fan coming onto your forum purely to diss a former Hartlepool player (who for some reason you care about more than your current manager). I didn't say he 'treated it like a holiday camp' the holiday camp comment was purely a rhetorical reference to him (and other players) being allowed to turn up late and leave training early. I'm sure he did exactly what was expected of him in training, Curle wanted him to do more.

I'm sorry some of our fans caused damage to your ground last time out... is that what this is all about? Or are you one of those who thinks that a fairly minor rivalry between two clubs that are at opposite corners of the same broad geographical area is like some sort of Old Firm where a rival fan on your forum must be treated with suspicion and disdain?

Are you saying you don’t want Curle as manager…….

I'm interested in an alternative point of view thanks Cumbrian.

I agree.

look ...nobody on here cares....lets all look to the future ....baaaaaaah

Not sure anybody on here needs or would even choose you to speak for them.

just a suggestion brainy...speaking up for cranks like you?...as if..

I also agree and i haven't even read the posts.

Do you want Curle as manager… ?

like nailing Jelly to a wall getting him to give an actual opinion.

Come on, simple question.

i very much hope so - i think he would enjoy it here, seems to be already. He knows he would go down in history if he could get success out of this club - hes been around the game long enough to know what we are about and how we work !

but .. he could be living in the ass end of back and beyond in thailand and may want to manage the thai national team

If you want to read/post on this forum thats your right.
And have no reason to apologise for so called fans wrecking anothers seating.

Its good and healthy too here others from outside air thier opinions.

Keep it up.

Can I second what you said Mr Greyhoundend.

Thank you for your contribution Carlislecumbrian. It is always good to hear what other fans think and say. I would much rather have you in the league to play us then all those soul destroying southern teams that infest the national league and creep in to League Two. Mind you I haven't forgiven you for taking over Hartlepool and the Mill House pub a few years ago when you won 5-1. A Keith Houchen goal let us win 1-0 at your place to make you wait for your championship but go in peace Cumbrian. Like Barrow and Workington it's hard enough as it is being where you are geographically. Can't see a Sutton Utd or Boreham Wood fan debating stuff on here.

Thanks for the bit of insight Mr Cumbrian, interesting to hear. Sweeney doesn't appear to have any beef with Curle judging by the hug at full time on Tuesday. Don't see how anyone can really start a slanging match with you about this post to be honest, just sharing what you heard/know.

McCreery got the sack after that win! Still can't believe we won that to this day.

I can’t imagine anything more tedious, more boring, more irritating than these bland, soulless clubs in the Home Counties coming into the league.
Faceless, characterless nonentities who merge into one and whose fans probably think we’re in the Orkneys and Carlisle in the Shetlands…..Up North being a term of twee condescension.
From what our friend in Carlisle is telling us it’s obvious they have the same recruiting problem as we do and Curle walked into a scenario where players were incapable of seeing he wanted things doing professionally and not for the benefit of fading footballers convenience.
The comical thing was, if a player is prepared to travel up and down each day it’s bleedin obvious the travel was no problem, just the getting up early and getting home a bit later, which millions do everyday, he was looking for commitment and obviously it was lacking.

a fan from another club comes on here with some information from the past. its up to us to read it and as you said why did it start a slanging match. if curle and sweeney did have problems then its all in the past anyway and this is a new era for both. bet i,m not the only one to fall out with someone on the job yet shortly after you,ll be having a pint with them, well as long as they bought the first round though.

You certainly can Sir.

Everyone is entitiled to thier opinion no matter how diverse or controversial.
No reason whatsoever to agree with it.

The danger lies in stomping on someone,s opinion, Without actually listening.

He was merely informing us in a polite manner and I thought the bloke was right in what he said.

Going back to Curle. I'm glad he came in. Lots of experience in the division with some success ( and some failure but not many experienced managers haven't had a taste of that). He knows what to do to make teams pick up points, a modest sounding ambition but not for us in our situation. We really need someone who can properly roll it in glitter so to speak. Sows ear/silk purse etc... Could be he can do that too but too early to tell.

No matter what happens saturday, Get the attitude right and we will have something to look forward to, This season.

I hoped at start of season Crawley would implode, but had my doubts when they signed that bloke from Newport who was top scorer.
FIngers crossed their wheels have/will come off and that just leaves one other team to get in front of

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Good listen.

He can talk the hind legs off a donkey

Although his reputation isn't really one for getting teams promoted he's a rare breed of manager who can dig a team out of shit and also build on that and get them competing in the top half. I think most of his league finishes, when not taking over a dumpster fire part way through the season haven't been far from the playoffs so I can see you surviving under his management and then at the very least if you stick with him, relegation shouldn't be a concern next season.

Most Carlisle fans still really rate him and when Keith Millen was sacked last season many said they'd be happy for him to come back. He made an impact here, although as alluded to at the start just never managed to go that extra step. Brave appointment by Raj, if as I've heard other Hartlepool fans say, he's a bit of a meddler who likes a yes man because Curle won't stand for any of that. Before he took us over our blustery old managing director was still coming into the changing room before every match to give the squad a pep talk (no idea what these pep talks involved but can't imagine them being very inspiring). Curle banned him and drew a clear line between the 'football department' which was his domain and the business side of the club.

I see he's said he hopes to get a good reception today from the travelling support. He probably will from most, as he did when he last faced us, as Northampton manager. Just a few weeks ago when we travelled to Mansfield he even joined the BBCRC commentary team as summariser (which was interesting) but the chair-damagers who think this is some kind of Galatasaray/Fenerbahce level rivalry will probably act as though he's betrayed them... fingers crossed they aren't the loudest voices.