Thought you’d left home ….. knew you’d be back like next doors cat.

Zealots…..? You have a way of twisting words Goebbels would be proud of……you mean those who oppose your views, in grown up circles it’s called debate. Do you have a problem with opposing views…?

You started your post with reference to ‘knickers’ and when the tables are turned on you, you accuse others of ‘weird arse rants’….. seriously?

Why on earth would any sane person want Challinor back here.

He has once again been shown up as just a very good national league manager, nothing else.
People say he was starved of cash here, Well certainly has had plenty of opportunity to show what he,s about at stockport.
Curle is by far a more sound investment for our lge2 status.

I must be bat-shit crazy cos I’d go pick Dave up now. Although he’d have called out the utter bilge that was our pre season ‘preparation’. Wouldn’t follow the party line…

‘We’ll get it right’ - Curle, 24/09/2022.

I sincerely hope and pray so, as we’ve been playing catch up since we struggled to field teams in pre-season, lost our best players to league rivals, barely scored a goal in friendlies vs decent oppo… and recruited a manager to fix all this who had never managed in English football - which, for me, was the biggest set of red flags possible heading into this season.

Snowy, I was kinda hoping you wouldn't choose to continue your rant but.. I'll be right here once you're done.

Ok catch you later

Love is a many splendoured thing. Oh dear.

Are you sure it was crap today? Might have been deliberate tactics to just appear crap to lull the Gills into complacency and allow us to grind out a point. It's only guesswork unless you actually heard the team talk yourself.

The hypocrisy of you talking about ‘debate’ and people who can’t take other poster’s points of view and yet here we are, straight for the insults. You’re better than that Snowy (at least I think so?)

Challinor had last seasons team playing well and left us in 10th, it’s been a steady decline since he left. Of course it’s guesswork to say where we might have finished had he stayed all season, but one thing is for certain, we wouldn’t have had a player recruitment as poor as we had under Hartley. A decent nucleus of a squad has more or less been wiped out in less than 12 months

Probably the worst squad of players we've had in 25/30 years id say. So many poor players and a totally unbalanced squad totally lacking in quality. Our only hope is staying in touching distance til January and getting some actual quality in then. Seriously don't know where we get a win from though.

The more games we play the worse it makes Hartley look, absolute shit show of a recruitment process

So sad to see the state we are in, to think it's only 15 months since Bristol and the high we were all on. That side would murder our current bunch. The recruitment in summer has been laughable, just such a massive lack in quality.

Just supporting the non crank posters.
Thought you put me on IGNORE mode.
19 now.
The Suit Direct rumour takeover back on.
UTP

A few days off n u miss me big style.
The offer of a few beers before any game still stands matey.

I represent no one but myself. As for insults, have you no sense of humour, try looking at things from a different perspective and stop being on the defensive over things.
Challinor has gone, he’s not coming back and sorry to say this, pining for his return is going to change nothing. We are we’re we are. Curle has been here under a week and he’s our only hope for the future…Hartley gone, Challinor gone, Lee gone I’m not bothered, they’re history, some good, some atrocious but history all the same.
I’ll see what Curle can do, there’s no alternative at present.
As for ‘debate’ ….. it can get heated, but it can cool down. I don’t take it seriously myself, but some folk do.

I discussed it with your psychiatrist and he said not to ignore you or you’ll start eating wallpaper again
Actually I forgot to ignore you.

i,t wasn,t if the club have thrown out all our best players over the last two summers the apart from their keeper.players themselves wanted out. yes the current bunch are not ideal but possibly better than those at crewe and colchester have been and certainly better than the load of scrap gillingham had on offer apill is.art from their keeper. wonder what their wage bill is.

True. But, we are we’re we are. We can all look back to the good times, but we have to deal with the reality of the present. Nostalgia is good, but reality is sometimes just plain ball achingly bad.
So we all come on here banging our collective gums and yet we’re all guilty of it with our pet theories and answers which none of us have the cash to turn into reality.
If I knew the answer, I’d bottle it.
I assume we all want the same outcome, but the only option open is to see what Curle can do, we’ve done the post-mortems to death and all end up arguing.
I’m burying it, no point, the paths laid out for the time being, so I just hope he has the personality to organise them on the pitch into an actual team.

It’s difficult to see how he is going to do that with this motley bunch. Most of the players cannot even do the basics like, pass to a team mate, be positionally aware or simply holding the ball up.
I’m sorry but without at least 5 or 6 new signings it’s going to be mission impossible for Curle.

This is where we go back to what we have in common being Poolies. We're in a bloody mess TOGETHER.

True, very true.

that should be the attitude of all the players and having it could make the difference in what league we play in next season.

curley's "well done" philosophy of player management ...sounds pretty similar to how you train a dog tbh....well done lad have a biscuit...pure genius

"They need clarity, they need simplicity and they need ‘well done’s,’ but they understand they only get well done’s if they do what I need them to do, when I need them to do it.But today, with the effort, commitment, desire and application, there’s well done’s to be had."

https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/sport/ ... te-3855668

Actually, it sounds ok to me.

Positives from this week, 2 clean sheets in a few days with possibly the worst team in 30 years, has got to be a huge step in the right direction. We are never going to score many, the team simply isn't good enough. We just need to make ourselves hard to beat and hope in January, we get players of league 2 quality.

Just got 4 rolls of woodchip.

We’ll, you were warned

2 games in a week where we didn,t look out on our feet in the last 15 minutes where points were thrown away in the colchester and crewe games. if we had managed to score in both those games this week i feel confident we,d have hung on for wins not draws.

If any of the Pools fans are still wondering what went on between Paynter at Curle at Carlisle...

Paynter was signed by Curle's predecessor Graham Kavanagh following relegation from League One. Under Kav there had been a club culture of making excuses and low effort; Kav seemed to still want to be the players' friend and was a soft touch boss and likely also believed that by bending over backwards to accommodate players we could get players who wouldn't normally consider us.

One of the things he did was allow players to use 'Carlisle's a long commute for me' as an excuse to turn up late for training and leave early, and given our isolation lots of players were doing this. We were terrible and Paynter, Kav's marquee signing just looked like he couldn't be arsed at all. It was like we were running a day spa for washed up lower league journeymen, not a football club trying to avoid dropping out of the football league.

Curle turned up and immediately put his foot down and said we'll have no more of this, I want players here for the whole of training and if the commute is too long you can stay in Carlisle during the week. Paynter took the hump big-time, since it was agreed when he signed for the club he could start training late and leave early. Legally he, and other players there at the time may have had a point if it was stated in their contracts but that's not the attitude Curle wanted and he binned off two or three, including Paynter.

As far as I'm aware Sweeney was never an issue. He was another Kav signing and may have been as surprised as anyone when Curle came in and started ruffling feathers but his effort was never questioned and he continued to be a key part of the squad. Paynter on the other hand dug his heels in and when Curle sent him to train with the academy he got the PFA involved and threatened the club with legal action. Curle let him have his way and train with the senior squad again rather than get embroiled in an employment tribunal but couldn't wait to see the back of him once the season ended. Sweeney stayed and made 26 apperanced the following season so I don't think Curle had any beef at all with him.

cumbrian.."Curle turned up and immediately put his foot down and said we'll have no more of this, I want players here for the whole of training and if the commute is too long you can stay in Carlisle during the week. Paynter took the hump big-time, since it was agreed when he signed for the club he could start training late and leave early."

...don't know where your get you info from pal ??...simply not true...paynter and dicker were told to do extra training cos they were not in the first team squad ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=_h9W4aG14wI

"BBC Radio Cumbria understands Paynter, 30, and Dicker, 28, refused to attend training sessions for players not in the first-team squad, triggering fines.The Professional Football Association confirmed they are assisting the duo."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/31649019

Thats not extra training. That's training INSTEAD of first team training.

Don't think this is even the worst squad in 6 years. Craig Harrison thought he was going to win promotion back to League 2 at the first attempt with an NL squad including Blair Adams, Scott Harrison, Louis Lang, Lewis Hawkins, Conor Newton, Jack Munns and Jake Cassidy. Not forgetting players who were only borderline useless like Jonathan Franks, Michael Woods and Devante Rodney.

imp..."Thats not extra training. That's training INSTEAD of first team training."

..as always....you know best brainy...

"he was omitted by successor Curle and then, along with Billy Paynter, fell foul of the boss during a dispute over extra training: a quarrel that saw the players fined and the Professional Footballers’ Association involved."
https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/sport/foo ... -be-happy/

You're presenting what the BBC say as fact? This is hilarious.

imp..."This is hilarious"

...whats that brainy?...bbc?..yeah and the news and star and you tube..you have any source for what you are claiming here other than that stuff you usually rely on that spews out of your favourite orifice?..well lets hear it then..hilarious?..oh yeah "i get it"....

I'm claiming you're guessing. You are doing a great job of backing that claim up. Keep it going.

The issue is that under the previous regime players had been allowed to turn up and leave training as and when it was convenient for them. Curle wanted to end this arrangement and Paynter didn't appreciate being told that the holiday camp he thought he'd signed up for was going to become a football club.

Everything that happened after that, with the training sessions, whether they were extra or he was being excluded from regular training isn't part of the point I'm making.

I agree with you. The rest is just tit for tat chatter of little consequence.

well if he does bring in those 5 or 6 with hearts as big as some he has we,ll be going for the play offs. rather have what we seem to have now than all those who are regarded as technically brilliant but with hearts the size of a dwarf gnat.

Don't know where you heard all this Cumbrian. Its interesting but its more hearsay. Its no surprise that there are more sides to a story. Which side is true? We have nothing to tell us that. Could be what you are saying is true.... or not true. Plus its water well under the bridge.

Curle needs to be appointed as full time manager - ive seen enough, hes literally turned us around in a few weeks. lets not forget Sweens and Westy' hard work also !

the man knows what it takes and seems to know what he is actually doing - proofs in the pud - we cant afford for another L2 club to sack their manager then pinch him

While I share your enthusiasm, it is still early days and while we might go from strength to strength, it is also possible for the wheels to fall off. I think we should leave it a little longer before we push the boat out. In any case, we dont know what the deal with Curle is. For all we know he has only agreed to manage for a set amount of time due to factors we dont know about.

f/a/o cumbrian...think tbh you are just full of sour grapes or something a bit smellier pal...53 appearances for us...17 goals...and coming on another fans forum 7 years later with your bitter vile tittle tattle ?....ffs shameful that like..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH21ZwFOQVo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qSjyucYnfc

While I share your enthusiasm, it is still early days and while we might go from strength to strength, it is also possible for the wheels to fall off. I think we should leave it a little longer before we push the boat out. In any case, we dont know what the deal with Curle is. For all we know he has only agreed to manage for a set amount of time due to factors we dont know about.[/quote]
never thought about that latter point as you always think of it from the clubs point of view. where is he actually based, has he finally put down his roots there as he seems to have had a gypsy still existance in the game and not just concentrating on one area.

:Curle could be on a trial period for a while with the option of an 18 month contract if it goes to plan.
If results continue to improve maybe a Xmas present from Stockport.













Er i mean Raj.

[quote="kevin pooles gloves"]:Curle could be on a trial period for a while with the option of an 18 month contract if it goes to plan.
If results continue to improve maybe a Xmas present from Stockport.
quote]

Yep, Curl could be on trial period which could lead to a permanent contract, but the fact is, none of us know so this is all speculation. Lets just hope he keeps Pools on the road to improvement and then we'll find out what happens with contracts etc.

Curle has already stated that he wants the Job