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 Post subject: Morecombe v Pools
PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:35 pm 
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2 nil to the pools.
Team unshacked with apparent duds doing the business.

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…. and the measured use of a cattle prod :scared-eek:

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To The Hartlepool 2-0 and Umerah has support provided by Sweeny's team changes. Crowd 1,300 Pools 70. Bring on The Gills. Attack, attack attack!


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start of a little winning run which might have happened with hartley but curle will get all the plaudits for turning things around.


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Best of luck to Sweeney, bloody hell he has been through the mill with all the comings and goings over the years. I am surprised he has stuck it out more apparently as Hartley didn’t want his assistance which I thought was a huge mistake even if it had only been for a few weeks.


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 Post subject: Re: Morecombe v Pools
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I have no idea how true this is but I have been told today that Hartley tried to get Sweens the sack but Raj would have none of that. The fact that Sweens is immediately involved with the first team again and the praise he got during the club's announcement about Curle adds a bit of credence to it.
True or not the pleasing factor for me is Sweeney's involvement again.

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 Post subject: Re: Morecombe v Pools
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derwent.."Hartley tried to get Sweens the sack but Raj would have none of that"


..get him the sack..how?...how would he have gone about that exactly?..from what hartley said on the record the first team in his opinion didnt need 3 coaches cos him and gord were "hands on and that's how they had always worked"..too many cooks and all that..also said on record words to effect that the academy needed good coaches like sweens...and anyway my understanding was that sweens job role wasn't linked only to the first team and was also based around developing players from the academy?..i think radio borer's nick loughlin started this rubbish about sweens being "disrespected" when he was calling on air for hartley to be sacked last week..and matty jones his radio mate followed it up with a piece in the northern echo with the usual legal caveats "it is suggested" and "it is understood"...but saying nowt else as to where it has come from..my bet would be if it has come from those two and nothing else then its balls imo.. :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: Morecombe v Pools
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Sweens was disrespected and talked down too by PH - i have this on good authority btw (and no its not the tea lady). PH didnt want nothing to do with him by all accounts and upon first impressions left a bad taste in a few peoples mouths at the club. just for the record also... DC did want Sweens at Stockport but it was Sweens who was talked out of leaving Pools. Rightly so Sweens heart is always at Pools but PH had him questioning that - the man was a little poisonous sod who has buggered us not just with his rubbish recruitment but also his tactics and lack of fitness in training - Again .. heard from the horses mouth.. the training schedules / sessions set out by PH where embarassing

anyways Pools to turn it round under Sweens and history to once again repeat itself in this cup - 2-0 to the Pools - Umerah and Grey


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 Post subject: Re: Morecombe v Pools
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derwent.."Hartley tried to get Sweens the sack but Raj would have none of that"


..get him the sack..how?...how would he have gone about that exactly?..from what hartley said on the record the first team in his opinion didnt need 3 coaches cos him and gord were "hands on and that's how they had always worked"..too many cooks and all that..also said on record words to effect that the academy needed good coaches like sweens...and anyway my understanding was that sweens job role wasn't linked only to the first team and was also based around developing players from the academy?..i think radio borer's nick loughlin started this rubbish about sweens being "disrespected" when he was calling on air for hartley to be sacked last week..and matty nixon his radio mate followed it up with a piece in the northern echo with the usual legal caveats "it is suggested" and "it is understood"...but saying nowt else as to where it has come from..my bet would be if it has come from those two and nothing else and its balls imo.. :roll:


I think I made it clear in my post that I couldn't verify it's credibility so I can't answer your question "how would he have gone about that exactly". However the next time I get the opportunity to speak to Sweens I'll ask him, although that could be a long way off.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was Loughlin mind you.

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 Post subject: Re: Morecombe v Pools
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So Sweens is in charge tonight….keen to see the team he puts out.

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 Post subject: Re: Morecombe v Pools
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So Sweens is in charge tonight….keen to see the team he puts out.


As am I.

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 Post subject: Re: Morecombe v Pools
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Eiphos_3 wrote:
Sweens was disrespected and talked down too by PH - i have this on good authority btw (and no its not the tea lady). PH didnt want nothing to do with him by all accounts and upon first impressions left a bad taste in a few peoples mouths at the club. just for the record also... DC did want Sweens at Stockport but it was Sweens who was talked out of leaving Pools. Rightly so Sweens heart is always at Pools but PH had him questioning that - the man was a little poisonous sod who has buggered us not just with his rubbish recruitment but also his tactics and lack of fitness in training - Again .. heard from the horses mouth.. the training schedules / sessions set out by PH where embarassing

anyways Pools to turn it round under Sweens and history to once again repeat itself in this cup - 2-0 to the Pools - Umerah and Grey


Results drive the narrative, if we’d been winning Hartley would have been hailed as strong and decisive
Appears he has come in and with a lot of misplaced confidence in his ability and left with his tail between his legs and us with a mess to clean up.
He’ll probably resurface at some part time Scottish club with a huge budget and delude himself he knows his arse from his elbow again


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 Post subject: Re: Morecombe v Pools
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Tough call tonight. If the players weren't in yesterday, Sweeney would only have a few hours today to get them organized before getting on the coach to Morcombe. Maybe not enough time? Possibly a narrow loss.


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Ko at 7 I understand?

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 Post subject: Re: Morecombe v Pools
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why this hartley v sweens stuff never came out when he was with the club/ seems it could be turning the knife on him now he has gone.


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 Post subject: Re: Morecombe v Pools
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Snowy wrote:
So Sweens is in charge tonight….keen to see the team he puts out.

Killip
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 Post subject: Re: Morecombe v Pools
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Least sylla has re-emerged, hopefully he’s resting Sterry and Ferguson…really wanted him to try Sylla at cb as oppose to Murray :grin:


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Gone to pens….bet Murray misses one


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 Post subject: Re: Morecombe v Pools
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He Missed the first one …couldn’t make this shit up :laugh:


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 Post subject: Re: Morecombe v Pools
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Of course you wonder what a player so obviously lacking confidence and form is doing taking the first pen but what do I know?


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Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
Of course you wonder what a player so obviously lacking confidence and form is doing taking the first pen but what do I know?


The fact he didn’t fall over when he took it has to be seen as somewhat of a success


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 Post subject: Re: Morecombe v Pools
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I thought we played quite well tonight.

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Ozzy and Mr Loyal. Now that you’ve had your usual pop at Murray I’d be interested in your usual perceptive thoughts on Ferguson missing the second pen. Probably surprised that a player low on confidence and form took the second pen and didn’t fall over!!!
And you’ve got the cheek to refer to Murray and Lacey as the ‘Chuckle Brothers’.


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Ferguson has a bit of credit in the bank, the same can’t be said of the other two.
If you’ve watched us this season and don’t think Ferguson is more of a league standard player than the chuckle brothers I can’t help you.


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 Post subject: Re: Morecombe v Pools
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To be fair it was a decent penalty and a good save.
Same as Fergies.
I said to our lass if he misses this he will get some stick on the bunker.


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Fairplay to him stepping up,


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We're the topping on our group in the Pizza Cup. Stockport have yet to claim a point in theirs.

Must be Dave's small squad that's the problem.


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Sedgefield Poolie wrote:
Ozzy and Mr Loyal. Now that you’ve had your usual pop at Murray I’d be interested in your usual perceptive thoughts on Ferguson missing the second pen. Probably surprised that a player low on confidence and form took the second pen and didn’t fall over!!!
And you’ve got the cheek to refer to Murray and Lacey as the ‘Chuckle Brothers’.


If you can find any direct criticism from me of Murray or any other Pools outfield player, please feel free to quote it. If you can't, may I suggest you check your facts before criticizing other posters. This evening, it seemed to me that Murray, due to his recent performances may not have been a good choice to take the first penalty. I said he was low on confidence and lacking form. I did not call him rubbish, shite, chuckle brother or use any other abusive label. I didn't do this tonight and never have done. I did not have my "usual pop" at anyone. I dont do "pops" Hope this helps. EDIT: I have on some occasions moaned about Killip's errors. A prime example was his howler against Northampton which cost us a goal and ultimately a defeat. He has played well recently which is why I haven't criticized him recently.


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Flying Hogans wrote:
We're the topping on our group in the Pizza Cup. Stockport have yet to claim a point in theirs.

Must be Dave's small squad that's the problem.


I must admit, I hadn't heard that rumour. :razz:


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Can I just confirm that Mr Saltburn does not abuse players, never has and one of the most reasonable of posters on this board.

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I thought we played quite well tonight.

agree. that stockton bloke rumoured to be worth anything from 100k to 400 didn,t do much against him. at least he had the courage to take the first kick and not hide at the back of the queue. away from that it was funny how when pools made all those changes, 3 at HT they finished the game as strong as they did. something positive and might be a thing to look at on saturday.


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The penalty result is irrelevant to me, all I see is we drew away which is what pleases me.

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Snowy wrote:
The penalty result is irrelevant to me, all I see is we drew away which is what pleases me.


Well said, a much improved performance in terms of energy, application and effort.


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Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
Sedgefield Poolie wrote:
Ozzy and Mr Loyal. Now that you’ve had your usual pop at Murray I’d be interested in your usual perceptive thoughts on Ferguson missing the second pen. Probably surprised that a player low on confidence and form took the second pen and didn’t fall over!!!
And you’ve got the cheek to refer to Murray and Lacey as the ‘Chuckle Brothers’.


If you can find any direct criticism from me of Murray or any other Pools outfield player, please feel free to quote it. If you can't, may I suggest you check your facts before criticizing other posters. This evening, it seemed to me that Murray, due to his recent performances may not have been a good choice to take the first penalty. I said he was low on confidence and lacking form. I did not call him rubbish, shite, chuckle brother or use any other abusive label. I didn't do this tonight and never have done. I did not have my "usual pop" at anyone. I dont do "pops" Hope this helps. EDIT: I have on some occasions moaned about Killip's errors. A prime example was his howler against Northampton which cost us a goal and ultimately a defeat. He has played well recently which is why I haven't criticized him recently.


I have just read this and totally agree with Mr Ozzy's indignation on being wrongly accused.
I suggest Mr Sedgefield reflects on this and does the honourable thing.

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Stomper409 wrote:
Snowy wrote:
The penalty result is irrelevant to me, all I see is we drew away which is what pleases me.


Well said, a much improved performance in terms of energy, application and effort.


Seconded.

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Mr Ozzy. Apologies. I hadn’t realised that your criticism was restricted to the goalkeeper.


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Sedgefield Poolie wrote:
Mr Ozzy. Apologies. I hadn’t realised that your criticism was restricted to the goalkeeper.


Well done Mr Sedgefield, the behaviour of a man. clappp

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Stomper409 wrote:
Snowy wrote:
The penalty result is irrelevant to me, all I see is we drew away which is what pleases me.


Well said, a much improved performance in terms of energy, application and effort.


Clean sheet away against a team higher up you can't really knock that after the mess we have been in.


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Good result after with a team in division above us bodes well for the future


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This morning I have a little more hope than 5pm last Saturday.

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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
Stomper409 wrote:
Snowy wrote:
The penalty result is irrelevant to me, all I see is we drew away which is what pleases me.


Well said, a much improved performance in terms of energy, application and effort.


Clean sheet away against a team higher up you can't really knock that after the mess we have been in.

totally agree with all of this. infact i wasn,t all that bothered about us losing the penalty shoot out as we had done the hard work anyway and should proceed to the next stage of the competition.


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I’ll be honest, I turned off after the final whistle, not interested in what happened in the penalty lottery, the away draw more than satisfied in the circumstances.

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Respect to Sweens. A decent result against 'superior' opposition.


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It was the Pizza cup... beat Gillingham on Saturday and Pools will really be on their way back.


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