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So said MacMillan in 1957.

This got me wondering as to what was the best decade you’ve lived through. For me even though I was a kid and theres probably a lot of rose coloured glasses involved; the seventies seems to be a but of a golden age in my memory.

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When i grew up down the town, Every the sun shone every day and every day lasted a week........FACT


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So said MacMillan in 1957.

This got me wondering as to what was the best decade you’ve lived through. For me even though I was a kid and theres probably a lot of rose coloured glasses involved; the seventies seems to be a but of a golden age in my memory.

Any other offers?

70 ‘s.

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60's for me

Found girls and you now what . . . .
Passed my driving test and got a car
Still lived at home and had money in my pocket
First holiday abroad
Played decent level of non league footie
Best decade for "pop" music


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Beginning of the 80's for me.
Good job, money in my pocket,Friday &Saturday night down 'the town' & it was bouncing,with plenty of shagging about.
Great music also.


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Mr Irrelevant wrote:
So said MacMillan in 1957.

This got me wondering as to what was the best decade you’ve lived through. For me even though I was a kid and theres probably a lot of rose coloured glasses involved; the seventies seems to be a but of a golden age in my memory.

Any other offers?


That's a tricky one. Every decade has been a mixture of good times and bad times - a lot can happen in 10 years. Probably the 70s for me too. Old enough for the sex, drugs and rock'n'roll but a student for a big chunk of it so someone else was paying :lol:


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I couldn’t agree more with you :laugh: :laugh:

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90s for me

finished school, found out how great pubs were

worked in a range of jobs and was single so my money was my own

ended up at University too

I seems to recall the summers were pretty good too in the mid 90s.


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60's for me

Found girls and you now what . . . .
Passed my driving test and got a car
Still lived at home and had money in my pocket
First holiday abroad
Played decent level of non league footie
Best decade for "pop" music

agree with all that apart from the music, fashion and the so called swinging 60,s where the pendulum hardly moved in my area of yorkshire. know also that most parts of the country you could leave a job on friday night without another one and start again on monday somewhere else. things started going downhill in the 70,s with more unemployment, higher house prices and costs of everything including a bus ride due in some ways to decimalisation.


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60,s especially for the music and Pools first promotion!

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I never quite got the maths with decimalisation.

2 old pennies = 1 new penny.
240 old pennies = £1
100 new pennies = £1


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Mr Irrelevant wrote:
I never quite got the maths with decimalisation.

2 old pennies = 1 new penny.
240 old pennies = £1
100 new pennies = £1


Happy days for shopkeepers. They adjusted their prices to the 2 old pennies (d) to the new penny (p) rule and pocketed the disappearing 40d.


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My biggest annoyance was when petrol went from price per gallon to price per litre. Started driving in 67 when petrol was 4 gallons for a pound (equivalent to 25p per gallon) and now it is roughly £1.70per litre!

That's an increase of over 31 times. I suppose the only God send is that my wages in 67 were about £15 per week and so it would compare to about £465 per week at present.

Can you turn the clock back 55 years for me please?


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My biggest annoyance was when petrol went from price per gallon to price per litre. Started driving in 67 when petrol was 4 gallons for a pound (equivalent to 25p per gallon) and now it is roughly £1.70per litre!

That's an increase of over 31 times. I suppose the only God send is that my wages in 67 were about £15 per week and so it would compare to about £465 per week at present.

Can you turn the clock back 55 years for me please?

i still buy petrol by the gallon which is roughly 2 gallons for every 9 lites you put in with multiples of 9 if i am making a long journey. Still do a rough estimate of MPG that i do and not that kilometres per litre farce. Bet you can remember the queues to top up your tank when it was proposed to go up by a penny a gallon on midnight. Got paid about 85 quid a month in 67 and could fill my 20 gallon tank for about a fiver. Now it costs roughly 7.65 a gallon for our liquid gold 153 quid by todays prices for my 20 gallon tank from the old days.


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Dont bite Snowy.
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Anytime before smart phones were introduced, you go out have a beer etc and have a proper conversation. Watch a young couple or any group of people come into a bar, people getting on a bus etc what’s the first thing they do, get the phone out !


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The Blair years.

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The Blair years.

with comments like that you should have a go at stand up or writing jokes for others. lots of the shit happening now started in that era and now his tree he planted has grew.


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Bluestreak wrote:
The Blair years.

with comments like that you should have a go at stand up or writing jokes for others. lots of the shit happening now started in that era and now his tree he planted has grew.

He didn't father BJ or Truss. :wink:

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Bluestreak wrote:
The Blair years.


Can’t have been any worse than the Tories have been in the last 12 years, biggest mistake was the Iraqi war.


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PFI’s…?

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PFI’s…?


The Tories didn’t stop the PFIs either, they continued for several years after.


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Blair’s brainchild. The Tories couldn’t afford to get rid of them because of the contact Blair agreed to.

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Blair’s brainchild. The Tories couldn’t afford to get rid of them because of the contact Blair agreed to.


PFI was introduced under the Tories, not Blair.


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Blair’s brainchild. The Tories couldn’t afford to get rid of them because of the contact Blair agreed to.


PFI was introduced under the Tories, not Blair.


Initially launched in 1992 by Prime Minister John Major, PFI is part of the wider programme of privatisation and financialisation, and presented as a means for increasing accountability and efficiency for public spending.


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Nearly right….but…. Norman Lamont expressed doubts about the viability of PFI.
So despite all the negotiations in government, expenditure and legal advice ended up being unused as not such a great idea after all.
Blair won in 1997 and disappointingly appointed ministers even keener than the Tories were and Blair pushed through a short bill in 97 to facilitate PFI’s use in the NHS, the Tories never did.

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All politicians make or inherit mastakes but the true mark of a good prime minister is he got the big calls right as Blair did unlike BJ.


He didn’t inherit anything. PFI was a project that even the Tories declined to use and quietly buried, he was the one that dug up the corpse and gave that Frankenstein project life, all his own work.
Then there’s the War in Iraq with his chum Bush, he’s a war criminal in my eyes or criminally gullible.

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All British PM back the yanks 100% in any of their projects. We are the USAs lapdog.

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All British PM back the yanks 100% in any of their projects. We are the USAs lapdog.

Sadly, a lot of people think they are just like us, they aren’t, they just happen to speak the same language.
This will surprise you, but after reading Mussolini’s biography I read Boris Johnson’s life of Churchill and in it he describes how within a year of the war starting they’d taken all our reserves of gold off us in payment for obsolete weapons and forced us to sell British owned companies in the US to US companies at bargain basement prices because basically the average American didn’t actually like us.

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I think it was 1996 we paid off £48m as the final payment to them for ww2 loans.
But it best to keep the biggest bully on side ie our side.

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2006, Ed Balls signed the final cheque.
Odd how all the other countries put two fingers up, I believe they just wanted to ruin our pre war economy for their own benefit.

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All politicians make or inherit mastakes but the true mark of a good prime minister is he got the big calls right as Blair did unlike BJ.


Absolute bullshit.

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derwent wrote:
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All politicians make or inherit mastakes but the true mark of a good prime minister is he got the big calls right as Blair did unlike BJ.


Absolute bullshit.


Wow. That would make for an interesting evening at Hartlepool Labour Party.

'Boris Johnson was a better Prime Minister than Tony Blair. Discuss.'


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You could start with the weapons of mass destruction. :laugh:

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Wow. That would make for an interesting evening at Hartlepool Labour Party.

'Boris Johnson was a better Prime Minister than Tony Blair. Discuss.'

or even better, how would each one have performed in the others era. do think we,d have been under restrictions longer and still be muzzled if smiling tony was pm at the time.


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Blair is a globalist, that tells me all I need to know.

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You can't have a discussion about Prime Ministers without mentioning the greatest of them all, Winston. There I did it.

His 'fight them on the beaches' speech still brings a tear of pride to the eye.

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Certainly a very stirring speech from a man we, as a nation, owe so much.

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He did much that was good - but his career also had many bad points - my family lost much of two generations at Gallipoli in WW1 down to him - which sort of provides a prism to look at the likes of Blair - he made some big mistakes, but also got many things right - just like Margaret - I just fear that her wannabee replacement isn't going to make any right decisions............


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i,ll trump churchill with the greatest of em all, clement atlee.


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Know what you’re gonna say, the NHS. Well actually it was the result of the Beveridge cross party report in 1942. Atlee wasn’t PM then it was put into practice under him but the actual spade work had already been completed before he came to power. Nice bloke though.

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i,ll trump churchill with the greatest of em all, clement atlee.



Thats like saying I’ll trump Messi with John Borthwick.


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I wasn't old enough to understand life under Attlee but he was apparently well respected. The current Labour Party rank and file don't seem to regard Bliar (as they call him) with the same respect, even though he got them elected. The Tory rank and file appear to hanker for Bojo's return and they just might get it. i wouldn't bet against it. Mr I , as a member of the tory Party, will have a better feel for the possibility of a Bojo comeback.

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[quote="derwent"]I wasn't old enough to understand life under Attlee but he was apparently well respected. The current Labour Party rank and file don't seem to regard Bliar (as they call him) with the same respect, even though he got them elected.
its not always about the leader but as much about what the leader has at there disposal to form a cabinet. Plenty of proper old labour politicians around in those days unlike todays westminster elite professional politicians with little life between university and when they are elected somewhere miles from home. think that type first showed their faces in the blair days and stood out like sore thumbs against the old brigade that were still left. possibly if corbyn had been 20 years younger with a smart suit and ready smile for all occasions he,d have been elected on his policies or even better lies.


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The big problem Corbyn had was his political history. No labour leader had ever entrusted him with a top job, either in Government or in opposition. When he was asked what his position on Brexit was he was non committal. On top of that his sidekicks were McDonnell and Abbott. His history was one of constant rebellion and association with terrorists. Backed by Momentum didn't help. Total recipe for disaster and the last General Election proved to be the final straw when he presided over a massive electoral defeat. He needed more than a smart suit. he needed credibility. Probably a nice guy to have a pint with but as a PM. Nah.

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One of Corbyn’s ex wives said his idea of a night out was to go to the Labour Party constituency offices and print leaflets for the evening.
Atlee wouldn’t survive in todays Labour Party because he was common sense down to earth bloke Like Ernie Bevan. Worlds apart.

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If Putin carries out his threats we won’t need to worry or think about the future, currently backed into corner like a rat, he doesn’t appear to the type to back down. He is losing some support as reports that planes are fully booked leaving Russia after he called up 300000 reservists and there has been protests in some Russian cities.


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I would imagine Mr INPUT is on someones hit list for a new wooden overcoat.

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Putin doing a general mobilisation is all show. Calling up reservists and new recruits and training them, which means they are just mouths to feed.
Unless of course he intends to use them after a brief period of training and gets the butchers bill.
Mind you, his professionals got their arses well and truly kicked when they went in, so I have little faith in his ‘reserve team’.

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