Scott Parker and Jack Ross.
Both Bournemouth and Dundee Utd lost 9/0.
Bit harsh it could have been 10.

Scott Parker got Bournemouth promoted, a few games in a hammering from one of the elitist teams in the Premier League and he gets sacked.
Jack Ross gone, that must the 3rd club he has been sacked from yet some fans asking for him to be considered as the Pools manager.

In his post-match comments Parker made the mistake of going public that the Bournemouth board needs to spend a lot of money to have any chance of staying up "we need to make that decision as a football club what we want to do this year... at this moment in time we're not competitive."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62722146

There's nothing in football that'll get you the sack quicker!

Pity the poor bloke who takes over from him after the transfer window is shut - Bournemouth could be on course for record low points and record goals against.

Parker's wealth is estimated at £10+ million and no doubt this will be boosted with compo from broken contract.

Will probably find another Manager's job quickly, so just a dent in his ego.

the usual expected knee jerk reaction from owners who now seem to have less patience than the majority of fans have. who actually in football expected bournemouth to do anything but struggle this season which is the norm for most promoted clubs. notts forest manager the next.

He will need to get a job asap to pay his hairdressing and tailors bills.
One of his cardigans cost £950.

He dared to mention that he needed help in strengthening the team which would be interpreted as disloyal.
Owners going for the parachute payments again, about time they were stopped.
I hope his severance pay is substantial. The guy had no chance.

Bournemouth are a small club punching massively above their weight so a crash was always going to happen sooner or later. Their ground only holds 12,000 which is just not adequate for a Premiership club. West Ham, Spurs, Arsenal all moved to new stadiums to increase their capacities which were already around the 40,000 mark but Bournmouth expect to survive in The premiership on gates of 12,000? Not going to happen. Yes I know its not just about gate receipts but a tiny stadium is of major significance.

It cant be that long since we used to play them?

You pulling the wool over my eyes

League matches wise, we last played Bournemouth in League 1 in 2012/13, the season they went up and we went down.

"Pity the poor bloke who takes over from him after the transfer window is shut - Hartlepool could be on course for record low points and record goals against"

Naughty On the other hand, if there aren't at least a couple of new signings through the door before Thursday night I think it'll tell us fans everything we need to know about Paul Hartley's future at the Vic.

Jack Ross had a 7-0 defeat to go with his 9-0, there were rumours he'd left last week. Instead he stayed for one more game which finished him off.

Not entirely Hartleys fault albeit he has signed some players, we have a Head of Recruitment who also knew what the budget was when he took the job, what’s he been up to since his appointment ?

Plenty of blame to go around so far.....based on early viewing and very broadly defined

Hartley Signings..

Tumilty/Patterson--- dont look good enough to even be a reserve
Murray--, so far looks a disaster, too slow and weak for this divison
Niang----disappeared without a trace--below standard
Hastie--Only gets a game as no one else available--maybe there is a player in there but very rough--needs to toughen up--I think he is going to cry at some stages when he is brushed off the ball and doesnt get a foul.
Hamilton--not really seen much of him, hasn't done a lot when he came on but not been given a chance yet
Ellis Taylor--Doesn't look up to mens football yet--signing him evident of the real slapdash approach we seem to have

Recruiter

Hastie--See Murray--awful signing
Menase--Best of our defenders--decent signing on evidence so far
Cooke--I think he will be ok but not being played in best position
Sylla - Early days but looks to be one of our best signings
Umerah--Puts himself about well, not as composed as Bogle (def a step down from him) but more energetic
Ndoji--Poor against Orient but wasn't everyone
Mcdonald-Not convinced he offers enough across a full game--took his goal well

Overall the recruiter looks to have done better than Hartley-but neither of them should be feeling great about themselves.

keith hill has now gone from scunthorpe.

Look losing to Aresnal, Man City and Liverpool deserves the sack.

Raj made a fair few bob out of tonights cup exploits last season, If we go out early somebody else will be getting the boot.

Judging by the attendance tonight they wouldn’t have mad much, 1500.

lucky to get that the way the team has been playing and against opposition most fans are sick of the sight of. doubt our gate would have been the lowest last night.

Heard Bournemouth fans on the radio yesterday and every one who phoned in was glad to see the back of him. They said he’s been moaning all through the close season when he knew the score money wise what the club could afford after discussions with the owners.
They seemed to accept they were a yo yo club punching above their weight.

Can I be the first to say that I don't want Pools to become a yo yo club with the National League?

There is no chance of that happening. if pools go down again it will be for the long haul in the national league and end up as a halifax or barnet type of club with the odd play off sniff.

Whatever the gate money was we get a share of it plus £20k for taking part and £10k for winning. Then there is the cash from those of us who streamed it, hospitality, the catering and merchandise.
Not a bad start.

we get 10k for winning last night?--thats not bad at all

Yes we do, plus 20 grand just for taking part.
A draw is worth £5k each at the group stage as well.
After that each win in the knockout stage gets more as you progress.

It's worth having. As Raj will confirm.

yeh surprised more clubs dont take it seriously, just for the cash

Who mentioned Pools….

I did Snowy. Pools. Said it again. Don't want them to get relegated. Ooops, said it again. Pools. Pools.

I did Snowy. Pools. Said it again. Don't want them to get relegated. Ooops, said it again. Pools. Pools.

Parachute payments, nice. All sorted.

No one does, but I was solely referring to the reaction of Bournemouth fans who to my surprise all didn’t like Parker.

More or less, the Premier payments are supposedly being invested in an Academy and eventually that will keep em up, according to their fans….. their gates may be a bit problematic though.

think pools do. certainly more serious than they ever did that fa trophy thing. others seem to have the attitude of wanting to win games on their terms and if it happens then good and if not at least some players get game time for a few games.

Whos goin 1st.
Wilder or Hartley!

Wilder

Challinor!

My opinion for what it's worth is we should stick with Hartley, even if it means relegation at the end of the season, constantly changing staff is getting us nowhere, one win and we would jump into a pack of 7 teams just above the relegation spots, we need to show some faith in the management team, we're actually 3 games unbeaten in all competitions and yes we've only 4 points but a couple of wins would make that look a lot better, yes I'm majorly disappointed with our current predicament but we need to show some solidarity on and off the pitch.
We don't want to become a club renowned amongst the coaching circuit as not giving our appointments a fighting chance, otherwise we will have trouble attracting anyone whether players or management to the club.

This is football virtually all teams sack the manager when they are on bad runs no matter how successful they have been. How many managers have Sunderland and Middlesbrough had recently?

Huddersfield sacked their manager today, coincidentally second bottom of the Championship with 4 points from 8 games, thing is they've lost 6 of that 8, whereas we have only lost 4, tbf we could easily have had 8 points if we'd been able to close out the last 2 games, if we could get our strongest team out which we haven't been able to at any point this season our luck will surely turn.

Behave man, you’re talking sense.

this inability to see out games is down to one thing. not being as fit as the opposition and not having a cushion of the second goal either. pointless being the best team over 85 minutes if you end up dropping points. even though we are irratic in games we have overall been better than the opposition on the pitch which is one positive.

One thing we do know about Raj is his lack of patience with what he sees as under performing managers, which is why I hinted the other day that going home was beginning to become a serious option.
I wouldn't sack him at the moment, a little bit more time for me but I'm not the chairman.

PH has definitely got to get us going though and that is something that most, if not all, of us are thinking.

If I was asked what I would do my answer would be.

Get a tough fitness regime going.
Get at least one experienced no nonsense centre back in.
Get me prayer mat out to plead for less injuries, although if the squad was super fit some of the injuries might disappear.

Then Get to January still at least in touch and get another chance, presuming the coaching staff have gained a bit more respect and experience of this level and appreciate what is needed.

Then we've a chance.

i hear that coxhall arse licker and football "expert" was at it again last night with all his "debonair" chums on radio borer..the usual stuff..poor graeme should never have been sacked and their ongoing vendetta against our chairman..but had to laugh though when the gobshite said hartley should be sacked cos he was "not the right fit" .."too cold and distant".. and "doesn't understand the town and the fans"..and to think he actually gets regular coin from the bbc for spouting this kind of b/s over the air waves..

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totally agree we need to be fitter and PH has to change his tactics whilst winning games - noticing too many gassed players on the pitch before him or even the captain is worrying - we are not too far away from being decent - just finding that formation that works. Again i feel PH is learning and still has some appreciation of this level to go - come Jan hes hopefully still in a job and worked out what is needed to stay a float at this level in english football - i have no worries about our front line just now but the midfield and decision making at times by the back 3 is woeful - needs work and only one man who can make that happen on the training pitch !

‘Not the right fit’ ….? Sorry, what does that mean….. I can only assume Mr Lockedin is in an Edwardian West Hartlepool time warp where Hartley is not suitable for polite society about town and should be shunned by the glitterati and their domestic flunky’s.
Again, what is there to understand about the ‘town and the fans’….they’re no different to any other town and fans. Another tedious/bombastic word salad again from the great orator and philosopher of Hartlepool Utd spouting authentic Hartlepool gibberish.
As for the comments about Lee, he lost the plot big time, sounds like he was craving a cosy chumocracy at Pools where ‘average’ is celebrated…… be just like getting in the Tardis and waddling back to the glory days we never had.

snowy.."Another tedious/bombastic word salad again from the great orator and philosopher of Hartlepool Utd spouting authentic Hartlepool gibberish."

..yeah...the usual from him and tbh can't stand the bloke...just loves to crawl round and suck up.. he was also slating tumilty for being "unprofessional" and "unfit" cos he couldn't get back to prevent crewe's goal in the last 5 minutes of the game...but ffs the lad had played a blinder, had literally run himself ragged and had signalled he was suffering cramp and needed to come off...the bloke spouts utter garbage but is just loved by the radio borer crew..honestly you should listen to the patter between them...

Everybody knows or should know that match fitness does not happen over night, Takes till around Christmas time to be fully match fit.
And thats if you are playing regular game time.

One or two on here should look at the oppo players and they would see that the same can be said of them.
I,ve seen opposing players gasping for breath.

Stop putting the players under a microscope and comparing them with yesteryear.

If there,s one thing that can keep players going is the supportive shouts from the terraces.
Get behind them and we may be surprised what happens.


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Had a listen to Loughlin's comments for myself (anyone else who can be bothered, they're here https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0cvl0fz from 40 to 46 minutes and 51-56)

Don't think there's a lot in his comments on the game itself that anyone who saw it would argue with. Crewe were terrible and Pools, at home, were only a fraction better. Crewe's boss is made up that his side were able to steal a point after barely turning up.

Utterly pointless to hark back to Graeme Lee though. He was responsible for 9 of the run of 17 League games without a win that Pools are on. Hartley has clocked up another 8. Fair's fair, he can only be another game or two from following Spike out of the door.

[quote="Flying Hogans"] Crewe's boss is made up that his side were able to steal a point after barely turning up.

especially after stating his side play well the first half and tail off in the second. mind you its the first time they have played pools this season.