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 Post subject: Jamie Sterry
PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:49 am 
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As Jamie Sterry is now in the final year of his contract we should be negotiating an extension or as usually happened with our better players risk losing him for nothing. He has proved time and again one of the best players in this division so come on do the right thing and do not chance another Moleneux or Odusina type ending.


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 Post subject: Re: Jamie Sterry
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Essex poolie wrote:
As Jamie Sterry is now in the final year of his contract we should be negotiating an extension or as usually happened with our better players risk losing him for nothing. He has proved time and again one of the best players in this division so come on do the right thing and do not chance another Moleneux or Odusina type ending.

agree, but would be shit scared when it happens just in case he does not re sign which could easily happen.


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 Post subject: Re: Jamie Sterry
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If the season continued in this manner I can't see him wanting to sign a new deal and couldn't really blame him.


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 Post subject: Re: Jamie Sterry
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Sorry but what has he done to deserve such accolades?, on Saturday his misdirected header set up the first goal for Bradford and was nowhere to be seen in the right back position when the cross for their second came in, bang average in my book.

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 Post subject: Re: Jamie Sterry
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paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
Sorry but what has he done to deserve such accolades?, on Saturday his misdirected header set up the first goal for Bradford and was nowhere to be seen in the right back position when the cross for their second came in, bang average in my book.

at the moment i,d hate to think what his replacement would be like. think if his defensive capabilities were as good as his attacking ones he would not be with pools anyway.


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 Post subject: Re: Jamie Sterry
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Good point Mr Paulus. Sherry, and for that matter Ferguson, get off very lightly on this Board. Sterry has been poor this season and at the back end of last season and was at fault for the first goal on Saturday before being caught in no mans land for the second. As for Ferguson his goal papered over his continued defensive frailty. Take a look at his attempt to stop the first goal. It’s half hearted at the very best and he actually shows a left footed winger the inside. Strangely no criticism on the Bunker.

I suspect that in both cases if they were a) Scottish or b) signed by Hartley, they would have been slaughtered. We’d have had the usual stuff about being signed from joke football/lower leagues etc etc. But I’ve just realised that’s where both our untouchable full backs came from!


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 Post subject: Re: Jamie Sterry
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paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
Sorry but what has he done to deserve such accolades?, on Saturday his misdirected header set up the first goal for Bradford and was nowhere to be seen in the right back position when the cross for their second came in, bang average in my book.

Tend to agree, thought it was just me.

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 Post subject: Re: Jamie Sterry
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Good point Mr Paulus. Sherry, and for that matter Ferguson, get off very lightly on this Board. Sterry has been poor this season and at the back end of last season and was at fault for the first goal on Saturday before being caught in no mans land for the second. As for Ferguson his goal papered over his continued defensive frailty. Take a look at his attempt to stop the first goal. It’s half hearted at the very best and he actually shows a left footed winger the inside. Strangely no criticism on the Bunker.

I suspect that in both cases if they were a) Scottish or b) signed by Hartley, they would have been slaughtered. We’d have had the usual stuff about being signed from joke football/lower leagues etc etc. But I’ve just realised that’s where both our untouchable full backs came from!

think both sterry and ferguson deserve some slack after many good performances in the past as they have earned it. when hartleys scottish lads do the same and something in the bank fans may cut them some slack also.


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 Post subject: Re: Jamie Sterry
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Sterry missed most of pre season through injury. Maybe that has something to do with it.

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 Post subject: Re: Jamie Sterry
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I thought Challinor would have come in for Sterry or Ferguson, maybe he thought good NL players but not L2 standard ?


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Could there be a language barrier on the wings?


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 Post subject: Re: Jamie Sterry
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I thought Challinor would have come in for Sterry or Ferguson, maybe he thought good NL players but not L2 standard ?

they would be the first poolies he did come in for if that happened. something else what a lot were expecting but never happened.


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 Post subject: Re: Jamie Sterry
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Has anyone actually watched Tumility in the past few games? I'd rather Sterry played with one leg and one eye than Tumility


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Both Sterry and Ferguson like to overlap, you can get away with it for a bit before opponents start push up the wings not allowing the full backs to overlap.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
I thought Challinor would have come in for Sterry or Ferguson, maybe he thought good NL players but not L2 standard ?

they would be the first poolies he did come in for if that happened. something else what a lot were expecting but never happened.

Yup….he was gonna come back with a hire van and take the lot to Stockport….some people were panicking, we were going to be ransacked, asset stripped, of ‘talent’ on a grand scale….turns out he rated no one at all at the end of the day. sadx

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 Post subject: Re: Jamie Sterry
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I'd stop giving the french money, stop wasting money on ineffective border control, let them in and train them to work in the nhs which has about 80000 vacancies at present. All previous border control policies haven't worked. Despite that the problems we have in this country aren't down to immigration. It may play a small part but it's not a cause. It's a distraction from the real issues of poverty and lack of opportunity given to those from traditionally poor areas who have been given super fast broadband to help them escape their tedious lives whilst the rich get richer and the London property market remains a haven for dirty money from Saudi Arabia. If we seized their assets the immigrants could get off the boats and make their way to Kensington and Chelsea.


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 Post subject: Re: Jamie Sterry
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Whoops wrong thread lol


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 Post subject: Re: Jamie Sterry
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93,000 vacancies in the nhs. Same as the population of hartlepool.

Stagggering. Perhaps mods can relocate my rant?


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 Post subject: Re: Jamie Sterry
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I suspect sterry is pig sick of the shite he has to play with, behind Wastie and next to the chuckle brothers (Murray and Lacey)
He is too good for this div and often seems to be playing within himself, he often does
His best work when he is annoyed at himself after making a mistake
I don’t see anyway he signs a new deal with things as they are.


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 Post subject: Re: Jamie Sterry
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He gets paid to put in a performance regardless of others, therefore, put in a performance.
How others play is no excuse for your personal performance. .

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 Post subject: Re: Jamie Sterry
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He was visibly frustrated by the lack of movement / constant giving the ball away of others on sat.
Just making a practical statement doubt we will get the best of him with what he is currently surrounded with


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 Post subject: Re: Jamie Sterry
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He gets paid to put in a performance regardless of others, therefore, put in a performance.
How others play is no excuse for your personal performance. .

So we can't consider the changing formations and personnel? Or the impact of the weaknesses of those other players on the strengths of Sterry and Fergie? Doesn't seem right like.


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Brian Honour's Left Foot wrote:
Snowy wrote:
He gets paid to put in a performance regardless of others, therefore, put in a performance.
How others play is no excuse for your personal performance. .

So we can't consider the changing formations and personnel? Or the impact of the weaknesses of those other players on the strengths of Sterry and Fergie? Doesn't seem right like.

Just asking him to play to the best of his ability, if others cock up, he can say he did his job.

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 Post subject: Re: Jamie Sterry
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Brian Honour's Left Foot wrote:
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He gets paid to put in a performance regardless of others, therefore, put in a performance.
How others play is no excuse for your personal performance. .

So we can't consider the changing formations and personnel? Or the impact of the weaknesses of those other players on the strengths of Sterry and Fergie? Doesn't seem right like.


Ive been part of sports teams for 35 years+ were ive always give 100%.
You know the difference between u teammates giving there best and the few who dont give a fuck then spit the dummies out when they get dropped.

Seems like the same mentality is in the Pools squad.

Excellent view of things thats happening at Pools from Nick Loughlin telling it how it is that the promise of quality recruitment dident happen n Hartley has underated the switch from Scottish to english football.

Sorry Snowy dont bite to much
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I’m changing the ammo belt in my MG 42 as I sit in bed oiling it. :laugh:

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 Post subject: Re: Jamie Sterry
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Snowy wrote:
He gets paid to put in a performance regardless of others, therefore, put in a performance.
How others play is no excuse for your personal performance. .

thats easier said than done though. ssame as when players play above themselves in a cup game against stronger opposition then back to average for a league game. circumstances can drag you down or push you up depending on the occasion. every fan thinks if they were good enough to play for their club they,d give everything they could week in week out. possibly we would for a certain length of time till something or the others round you forced you into bad ways as well.


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 Post subject: Re: Jamie Sterry
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Suppose it's inevitable when Pools can't buy a win that some will ask what the better players in the side are doing to stop the rot. As Derwent has already pointed out, Sterry missed pre-season with injuries. He came on as a sub towards the end of the 4-0 opening day thrashing at Walsall and has played every game since apart from the other 4-0 cup loss at Blackburn.

Sterry says himself in the Mail this week that he's still not fully fit but when the alternative at right back is Tumilty, who had 2 absolute nightmare games at Walsall and Blackburn, it's no surprise that Hartley keeps picking him.

Agree that the likes of Sterry, Ferguson and Featherstone are all short of their best form while the team is struggling to click. A couple of wins could make a big difference. It's a worry though that the Pools squad has numbers now but not much depth when it comes to quality and experience.


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that last point will come out with the papa johns team selection and how we play.


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You have to be a bloody good player to play well in a team that looks national league north standard, it's no wonder the sterrys and Ferguson's and Featherstones are getting dragged down with the rest.


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yeh can imagine Morale must be pretty low at the minute for the new players and the ones here last season......won't get any better without a few wins.


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Something has got to change but I'm sure PH knows that and would probably be the first to admit it.
I thought there were glimpses of progress at Northampton against a pretty good side but it has appeared to be turning into the old one step forward then two back.
It isn't really about what we think but realistically it's how Raj sees it and how will he react and we all have a pretty good idea of that outcome.
Also I'm beginning to suspect Tony Sweeney is being put out on a limb. There is no mention or even sight of him these days and that bothers me.

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unfortunately with the transfer windows the ability to recover from recruitment mistakes is a lot more difficult, once the window shuts we are stuck with what we have until after xmas apart from scrounging around for free agents


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Something has got to change but I'm sure PH knows that and would probably be the first to admit it.
I thought there were glimpses of progress at Northampton against a pretty good side but it has appeared to be turning into the old one step forward then two back.
It isn't really about what we think but realistically it's how Raj sees it and how will he react and we all have a pretty good idea of that outcome.
Also I'm beginning to suspect Tony Sweeney is being put out on a limb. There is no mention or even sight of him these days and that bothers me.


Sweeney is helping to develop the academy therefore not involved with the first team anymore I believe.


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dont we lose funding again for academy if we are relegated?---depressing thought
Its v frustrating as it does seem like investments off the pitch are being made--hopefully Hartley is right and it just takes 'time to gel'


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
You have to be a bloody good player to play well in a team that looks national league north standard, it's no wonder the sterrys and Ferguson's and Featherstones are getting dragged down with the rest.

agree, its basically what i said on the hastie thread this morning. pity those three are not really firery types as there could be some fun in the dressing room and on the training ground.


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I think Featherstone days could be numbered--not clear what he adds in current formation, I like him but everyone has a sell by date.


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
You have to be a bloody good player to play well in a team that looks national league north standard.


Or inspirational to those around you


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I think Featherstone days could be numbered--not clear what he adds in current formation, I like him but everyone has a sell by date.

the years eventually catch up with everyone and possibly they have now with nicky. once i used to think crawford could be his natural successor but not sure about that anymore.


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