There's a pretty strong hint in this interview with Paul Hartley that their futures at Pools are under threat:

https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/sport/ ... um-3808905

Neither have done much in the games they've featured in so far this season. Not even making the squad last night looks ominous.

I doubt there'll be many who will worry if Mark Shelton is moved on. He's never really looked comfortable in games since Pools got back to the EFL.
Tom Crawford going would be bit more of a surprise, but looks a long way behind Featherstone, Sylla, Cooke and maybe Niang too at the minute.

If we could sell the tea lady we would. Crawford one of our better players last season, surprisingly not really getting a look in. Who will go after that sterry?

billy liar..."If we could sell the tea lady we would."

..nawh..raj will get no money for shelts....thing is shelts has told my source at the club he wants out..apparently not getting decent wages like..would be on more money at shields....could be where he will end up as thats probably around his level..anyways don't let it bother you..will make no difference eh?

"billinghampoolie1908
PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 4:53 pm

"Relegation certainties this team.""

Do you not think Crawford would be a loss?. Let's be honest we keep getting rid of players and replacing them and results are no better. Come back and tell me this team isn't relegation certainties when we win a couple of games.

Fact is we’re getting up steam over some speculation in the Mail. No one has said anything yet.

The squad's up to 22 players and Hartley wants a couple more in. I'd have money on 1 or 2 going out before the window closes, even if it's only on loan.

Do you talk to your wife like this? You'd not get away with it in the workplace. So is it just behind a keyboard?

Can you not understand figures of speech? Or did you really think that he was suggesting that the tea lady be sold? Mind, following your earlier accusations about me, I can be persuaded that your views on normality are beyond skewed.....

I guess a question is....could Shelton or Crawford (or both of them) improved our midfield last night? I'm not sure that they would have. So, I think that I'm agreeing with PH. Mind, I'm a postage stamp etc.

Unless the replacements are better the results wont be better.
What happened to the Promotion Dream Budget.
No doubt the Muppet Show will quote me with there Vile n Viler responses

Hastie cudent lace Molyneuxs boots.
Just 1 example of a poor replacement.

I’m in agreement with both you and PH about the starting line up. I think the next question, however, is would you rather bring on Shelton/Crawford or the midfield substitutes from last night (Sylla/Niang).
Sylla has looked good so far but I think Niang vs Crawford is a no brainer. Especially as Niang on the bench gives us 2 defensive midfield subs

Crawford has been here two seasons and has not been able to hold down his place for any length of time. Some days he looks good others you don’t know he’s playing and his scoring record is abysmal and makes Featherstone look prolific. IMO him and Shelton are National league players at best.

brain.."Do you talk to your wife like this? You'd not get away with it in the workplace."..."Can you not understand figures of speech? Or did you really think that he was suggesting that the tea lady be sold?"..."I can be persuaded that your views on normality are beyond skewed"


...alright brain..more of your usual incoherent "stunning" drivel i see....wtf my missus tea ladies beyond skewed?....been on the drink again have we?..and listen stay away from companies house...looking for shit to stir on there will only make your condition worse..."help me please i don't understand"...hilarious...thing is mate think maybe you should take a bit more of your own advice?...at the end of the day coming on here will only get you upset and you know what you're like when you get like that...oops embarrassing ...think about it ..maybe "give up" again take a break and go back to "visiting rarely"?


"Brian Honour's Left Foot
Post subject: Re: Things are looking dodgy
PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:41 pm
"Mr 27, heard a similar story but couldn't be bothered posting it on The Two Bullies Forum - they talk about free speech but abuse anyone with a contrary view/ perspective/ knowledge. So, like you, I gave up and now only visit rarely. Wonder if either were at the match today - actually, no I don't."

brain..."So, I think that I'm agreeing with PH. Mind, I'm a postage stamp etc."

..the penny has finally dropped..

Wow. I recall reading that the most difficult people to debate with were those who knew nothing. You bring a whole new level to that discussion.

brain..."Wow I recall reading"

....dick and dora and nip the dog?..those were the days eh..did you ever progress to enid blyton and the secret seven?..no?..as i say then best stay away from companies house..its not meant for special lads like you..

Shelton wouldnt be a miss at all and as stated previously his level is NL at a push - would probably walk into the Shields team and get well rewarded for it too no doubt. But hes a Nottingham based lad - just thinking would he look to Notts county (probs wouldnt even get in their side tbh).

Crawford is a funny one - clearly doesnt impress in training enough. I think a loan spell for a full season back in a good NL team would benefit both parties. Then see where we are with him, definitely wouldn't be looking to sell him.
Also i can see why Niang makes the bench over say a Crawford or Shelton as he can be used in 3 positions which is always a nice to have say we loose a CB or feaths during the game.

again i can see another 1 or 2 through the door - probs Loans at this stage but i just hope they are better than Taylor.

Bit sensitive about what folk might find at Companies House?

In agreement about Shelton.
I think Crawford has proven he’s good enough for this level as shown second half of last season. Id rather have him on the bench to be brought in as a more progressive midfielder but obviously PH has other ideas.
Niang is useful to have on the bench as versatile cover but if we’re doing that do we also need to have a left back and a right back on the bench?

eiphos.."Crawford is a funny one - clearly doesnt impress in training enough."

..l like crawfs but his big problem is obviously pace..so so slow...makes feaths look like a usain bolt..

He’s clearly Gary Coxall in disguise

brain.. "Bit sensitive about what folk might find at Companies House?

..oooh yes thats right.. well done sherlock...is it that obvious like?...but no..seriously brain.. as long as its you doing the digging me and raj ain't got no f/kin worries at all...."help i dont understand thank you"

Not sure if he’s gone backwards but Crawford was bad to the point the point of being a liability against Northampton when he came on

For better or worse this is on Hartley
He’s been given space to put his own team together and will stand or fall with it

ive seen slower but he can unleash that killer pass and break down defences with his through balls - as seen in last seasons cup games. For what he lacks in that department he makes up for with his reading of the game i think. But he also lacks goals and a tackle most of the time - suppose if he had this to his game he wouldn't be playing for us.

Was this in the ‘10 rumours that we’ve made up’ column in the mail?

If you put a question mark behind budget, you might get an answer to a reasonable question for you. …not a piss take from me either.

Shelton probably wont be missed but Crawford might still have something to offer. I guess if they both left it wouldn't be the end of the world.

Realistically, even if everybody left, the ground was flattened and a ‘History of Plywood Museum’ was built on the spot, it wouldn’t be the end of the world either……..realistically.
I wouldn’t go to a Plywood Museum myself..

Well I have always had an enquiring mind so I would never decry the impact of such niche museum but if Pools ceased to exist it really would feel like the end of the world though on the literal level it wouldn't be. I could never take any interest in the Mags, Mackems or Smoggies. I think I would have to start following Stockton Town or maybe Whitby. Maybe Morrison Busty CW because I have always liked their name(Edit they no longer exist).

I suppose a Plywood Museum wouldn’t be as compelling as a ……. Lawn mower Museum… but the idea of supporting a club that doesn’t exist has it’s benefits, you’d be unchallenged on the message board as there’s only you on it, you can wear a cheap T shirt and tell them it’s the new home strip, You can call it ‘Our Back Garden Utd’ not far to travel, parking free next to the ground and surprisingly cheap catering, admittedly the atmoshpere is a bit on the quiet side …..unless Ratboy gets excited… but you never lose. Win, win for me.

plus when the team plays well so does he. when they having a bad day he becomes invisible. he still has age on his side and would prefer him being loaned out till january, come back and then make a decision about him in the summer. i,d hate to see him more or less given away to another lg.2 club and then he prospers.

He signed a 2 year contract only in April. The last few home games in which he has appeared he has played too deep, even behind Ferguson at times, when creativity is needed further up the pitch

Are you really serious about some illicit discovery to justify your vivid imagination.
Behave.

It was never gonna be a good idea when your social worker allowed you to go on line.

Do you want me to to give you a long list of players before Molyneux who’s boots Molyneux couldn’t lace, because that’s how your morbidly bizarre thought process stumbles along.
Molyneux ain’t here because he didn’t want to be here.

Molyneux was at Pools for around 3 years, 78 appearances scored 11 goals hardly a prolific scorer.

1952..."Molyneux was at Pools for around 3 years, 78 appearances scored 11 goals hardly a prolific scorer"

..nawh...."guaranteed" to get 15 this season....

snowy.."Are you really serious about some illicit discovery to justify your vivid imagination.Behave."

..behave?....like politely asking your dog to stop licking his balls..but thank god he "gave up and only visits rarely"..

and thats the problem you have hit upon. its not as if some of the better players leave pools because they are not offered contracts its the club for reasons we can only speculate the reason they want away.

accy.."we can only speculate the reason they want away."

...mols..."once i saw the stadium it was a no brainer"..

I like how certain hyper posters on here, fretting at his likely departure, were bemoaning the loss of an apparently guaranteed 14 goals a season gone west.
Now what was his seasonal average again?

didn,t mention though the regular non atmosphere of the stadium with as many if not more moaners than at the vic which he could say now he is bench warming.

Plenty of staff have wanted away In recent years so it's no surprise players do.

To be fair, Mols was a winger who scored some great goals but as a winger you wouldn't expect many more than low double figures in an injury free season. As I recall, he was tried in a more central role with mixed results. Anyway, he's gone and we move on.

If a company down the road offered to pay you more money for doing the same job and your existing boss couldn't match it, you'd be on your bike wouldn't you? It seems to me footballers are no different and more so because their careers are restricted to maybe around 15 years if free of career ending injury so they need to earn as much as they can in the time they have, particularly at our level. Of course Mols said it was the stadium that attracted him, he isn't going to say it was the money because understandably he doesn't want to sound greedy. I recall Oates said it was the training facilities at Mansfield that attracted him obviously for the same reason. Pools are Pools and at the end of the day cant match the resources of some of the other clubs in our division and sensibly don't want to go into unsustainable debt to try to match them. The halcyon days of IOR are long gone but at least we have a team in the Football League and the season is young. Not time to moan.

Of course they will. Molyneuxs excuse about the ground was almost a joke it's one of the most soulless quietest grounds in the league he has gone too.

Exactly Mr Ozzy, I suspect those who moan are frustrated IOR ‘conscripts’ who want those days back, well, like Molyneux, they’ve sailed off to the sunset and left us.
Pre IOR life as a Pools supporter was a roller coaster ride with loose wheels, but those days haven’t come back either.
Pools are just ticking along and the gas bill gets paid, pre IOR I prayed for that sort of boring normality.

I never took Molyneux for a devoted fan of Millenium style sheet tin and breeze block temples of football, with his mind tormented in pleasure by the location of the floodlights, lusting at the sheer ambience of the toilette facilities and simply swooning with delight at the players bar.
He went for the cash, he’s just a common or garden contractor off to another job.

snowy.."I never took Molyneux for a devoted fan of Millenium style sheet tin and breeze block temples of football"

..the only reason bob newton signed for us too .....bob preferred the more traditional rotten wood and rustic iron girder look...."once i saw the stadium it was a no brainer"

https://twitter.com/Groundtastic/status ... 80/photo/1