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 Post subject: Hartleys Heroes v Bradford City
PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 12:26 pm 
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Surely the law of averages says we gunna actually win a game.
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I think Bradford will be a very tough nut to crack. A draw would be a good result.


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Odd one, Bradford, like Stockport, have fans acting like they’re the dog’s bollock’s…..entitlement comes to mind and maybe they approached it all a bit too cockily and casually and found teams in this division weren’t gonna lay down and roll over
Maybe if Bradford haven’t snapped out of their delusion, it could be interesting.

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Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
I think Bradford will be a very tough nut to crack. A draw would be a good result.


Didn’t they beat Pools 3-0 at Pools near the end of the season ?


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Bradford have spent a lot of money and will likely do well this year, would be a struggle even if we had hit the ground running
0-2, then likely a defeat against Orient too.
Hopefully fixtures get a little easier and we get a win soon to relieve the pressure


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our first flogging at home - but by us ! yes we turn them over 3-0. It has too. a win us due - a scoreline of more than 1 is due.
by christ do we deserve it - Umerah to get 2 and Hastie to finally hit the net also.
Bradford in utter shellshock ! violence erupts !
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Jamie1952 wrote:
Ozzy Saltburn wrote:
I think Bradford will be a very tough nut to crack. A draw would be a good result.


Didn’t they beat Pools 3-0 at Pools near the end of the season ?


it was 2-0, a week after the Trophy semi-final with Rotherham, the talk was still of us making the play-offs. Bradford were near the bottom but beat us easily. The beginning of the end for Graeme Lee.

I'm sure Bradford will be there or there abouts this season so now isn't a bad time to play them, while Hughes is still trying to get the best out of all his new signings. Just like Paul Hartley!


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I'm sure Bradford will be there or there abouts this season so now isn't a bad time to play them, while Hughes is still trying to get the best out of all his new signings. Just like Paul Hartley!


He’s had a lot more time than Hartley to get his team firing on all cylinders, months more. :laugh:

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Looking at fixtures...first league win vs Gillingham?


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Snowy wrote:
Flying Hogans wrote:

I'm sure Bradford will be there or there abouts this season so now isn't a bad time to play them, while Hughes is still trying to get the best out of all his new signings. Just like Paul Hartley!


He’s had a lot more time than Hartley to get his team firing on all cylinders, months more. :laugh:


He had most of his new signings in place for the beginning of pre-season (not all, he's been very greedy ;) ) but Pools and Bradford have played the same number of league and cup games. Managers learn a lot more when the shooting starts than they ever do from friendlies.


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 Post subject: Re: Hartleys Heroes v Bradford City
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Flying Hogans wrote:
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I'm sure Bradford will be there or there abouts this season so now isn't a bad time to play them, while Hughes is still trying to get the best out of all his new signings. Just like Paul Hartley!


He’s had a lot more time than Hartley to get his team firing on all cylinders, months more. :laugh:


He had most of his new signings in place for the beginning of pre-season (not all, he's been very greedy ;) ) but Pools and Bradford have played the same number of league and cup games. Managers learn a lot more when the shooting starts than they ever do from friendlies.

Hughes took over Bradford end of February, so he’s been their 6 months so he should have the majority of his team bedded in by now Hartley’s been here six weeks!

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 Post subject: Re: Hartleys Heroes v Bradford City
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Snowy wrote:
Hughes took over Bradford end of February, so he’s been their 6 months so he should have the majority of his team bedded in by now Hartley’s been here six weeks!


I realise that, but for this season he's signed...19 new players!!

And from the end of last season got rid of... 17 Players!!!
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/bradfor ... erein/1027

And we thought Paul Hartley was a new broom :lol:


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The other Cook seems to be in form so keeping him quiet is a priority. Chapman also can be a match winner on his day.

hopefully our Cooke turns up against his former employers and do what he did to us and set up 2 goals.


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Snowy wrote:
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Flying Hogans wrote:

I'm sure Bradford will be there or there abouts this season so now isn't a bad time to play them, while Hughes is still trying to get the best out of all his new signings. Just like Paul Hartley!


He’s had a lot more time than Hartley to get his team firing on all cylinders, months more. :laugh:


He had most of his new signings in place for the beginning of pre-season (not all, he's been very greedy ;) ) but Pools and Bradford have played the same number of league and cup games. Managers learn a lot more when the shooting starts than they ever do from friendlies.

Hughes took over Bradford end of February, so he’s been their 6 months so he should have the majority of his team bedded in by now Hartley’s been here six weeks!


Makeing excuses already Snowman.
Stokeing the fires embers for sat nite.
You got Shares in the Carehome which is priority above the Football Club. :-D


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Makeing excuses already Snowman.
Stokeing the fires embers for sat nite.
You got Shares in the Carehome which is priority above the Football Club. :-D


Excuses? Any fool can see the difference between 6 months preparation and 6 weeks, except you.
‘Stoking the fires’… no, that’s your job.
As for the shares in the care home ‘comment’ you sad little man, you really should have put a question mark behind that statement. :evil: :laugh: :evil: :laugh: :evil: :laugh:

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 Post subject: Re: Hartleys Heroes v Bradford City
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Pools 3 Bradford City 0 Umerah (3) 4,900 (890) They kick off again and Mark Hughes says they were robbed by refereeing decisions. Hartley opens a wee dram Jimmy.


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 Post subject: Re: Hartleys Heroes v Bradford City
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Flying Hogans wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Hughes took over Bradford end of February, so he’s been their 6 months so he should have the majority of his team bedded in by now Hartley’s been here six weeks!


I realise that, but for this season he's signed...19 new players!!

And from the end of last season got rid of... 17 Players!!!
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/bradfor ... erein/1027

they actually improved a lot after he took over last season. can understand getting rid of some deadwood but the rest could not have been that bad. seems too many in and outs there for my liking. they will still have enough for pools 0 though and to nick a couple in return.


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 Post subject: Re: Hartleys Heroes v Bradford City
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I realise there’s been a big change of personnel but when they arrived he’d had six months to get the club set up to his way of working. Unlike PH, Hughes didn’t walk in the door just before his signings.
As Accrington said, they didn’t look a bad team down here and I was surprised by the scale of his clear out. Hasn’t quite worked yet despite mega bucks spending.

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Depends on who starts up front for Bradford. If Oliver starts they lump it long which doesn't suit most of their players. With Andy Cook they play it on the floor and seem to play much better.
Thinking 1-0 with another scrappy Umerah goal.


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Maybe Bradford have just signed mediocre players though they have still managed more points than us so far. Barrow dont seem to have many prpblems with the wholsale changes they made. Might just be down to a better standard of manager, is hughes any good? Is Hartley any good? Did well in a league of 10 clubs where he was well backed, bit tougher in league 2 with some good sides kicking about.


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Pools 0-1 Bradford 4800


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
Maybe Bradford have just signed mediocre players though they have still managed more points than us so far. Barrow dont seem to have many prpblems with the wholsale changes they made. Might just be down to a better standard of manager, is hughes any good? Is Hartley any good? Did well in a league of 10 clubs where he was well backed, bit tougher in league 2 with some good sides kicking about.

at the moment the decision barrow made for their manager seems to be coming off with some doubters at bradford and pools. by christmas things may or not have completely changed.


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
Maybe Bradford have just signed mediocre players though they have still managed more points than us so far. Barrow dont seem to have many prpblems with the wholsale changes they made. Might just be down to a better standard of manager, is hughes any good? Is Hartley any good? Did well in a league of 10 clubs where he was well backed, bit tougher in league 2 with some good sides kicking about.

Time will tell.

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early days, but from what I have seen so far the better signings have been Sylla, Umerah and Meyanese, the potential Turkeys have been Hastie and Murray
In fairness there have been mitigating circumstances (Murry injured, Hastie out of position) but does suggest at the very least there is some acclimatizing required from the signings that were signed based on Hartleys 'inside knowledge'
Add that to what appears a genuinely tough set of fixtures at the start of the season, and I can understand why skepticism is there.
We have to give Hartley a chance though and could all be very different story come end of September.


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Can't you give any "potential Turkeys" until Christmas ?


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Can't you give any "potential Turkeys" until Christmas ?

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I expect there'll be a formation change today and Sylla will start in central midfield. First half on Tuesday, with 5 at the back and Hastie and McDonald out wide, Featherstone and Cooke were getting completely overrun in midfield. It was like watching Feaths and Michael Woods struggle the season we got relegated.

Speaking of Sylla, there's a rumour we're in for a Greek player now, Charybdis.


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Speaking of Sylla, there's a rumour we're in for a Greek player now, Charybdis.


I know HMS Charybdis…nicknamed Cherry B……should strengthen the team.

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V encouraging 1st half.
In fairness Bradford have a little bit of extra quality but so they should given what they've spent, Banks looks different class when he's involved.
Sylla and Umerah look good again.
Not convinced by Hastie again, but looks like a confidence player and in fairness to him he has an assist and drew a yellow in first half.

All the Killip bashers need to agree he saved us big time from Cookes mistake.
Even if we go on to lose this, I can at least see a bit more coherence and what we are trying to do.


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Feaths has become a bit of a liability, stupid pass gave away possession for Bradfords 2nd, poor crosses and scared to take a shot when in great positions.


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what a difference a half makes.
Bradford obviously told to press a little higher up and we had no answer to it.
They will be up there at end of season, but v disappointing after we went behind we never laid a glove on them.

Without picking on people not sure what Hastie has been told to do, gives ball away time and again and doesn't appear to have a football brain in his head..not sure why he lasted 90 mins.
Lacey is also conference standard....which given where we got him from isn't a surprise.
Cooke is a step up on any midfielder we had last year, Sylla is very good at breaking up play and Sterry is still class---but seems to do his best work just after he's made a mistake
Mcdonald plenty of step overs for youtube but no real end product.
Well beaten today and the way it happened in the second half other teams will find easy to repeat
Realistically its all about do we have enough to avoid relegation....hopefully we do.


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The FB keyboard warriors are up and running sack the manager etc, I think they are young kids who have no idea, sack a manager after a few games. I do believe there saying that because he comes from north of the border, for me give the fella chance, he is trying to make a silk purse out of a pigs ear.


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When should we panic? Last 2 home games 3 shots on target -6 goal difference after 5 games not looking good when you can’t score and you can’t defend


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what a difference a half makes.
Bradford obviously told to press a little higher up and we had no answer to it.
They will be up there at end of season, but v disappointing after we went behind we never laid a glove on them.

Without picking on people not sure what Hastie has been told to do, gives ball away time and again and doesn't appear to have a football brain in his head..not sure why he lasted 90 mins.
Lacey is also conference standard....which given where we got him from isn't a surprise.
Cooke is a step up on any midfielder we had last year, Sylla is very good at breaking up play and Sterry is still class---but seems to do his best work just after he's made a mistake
Mcdonald plenty of step overs for youtube but no real end product.
Well beaten today and the way it happened in the second half other teams will find easy to repeat
Realistically its all about do we have enough to avoid relegation....hopefully we do.


Cant fault the effort.
But can see us getting 12 draws.
But struggling to see were the 12 wins are coming from to stay in the EFL.
Like i said after Walsall take 3rd bottom all season long.
No quality what so ever in this horrendous recruitment.
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Jamie1952 wrote:
The FB keyboard warriors are up and running sack the manager etc, I think they are young kids who have no idea, sack a manager after a few games. I do believe there saying that because he comes from north of the border, for me give the fella chance, he is trying to make a silk purse out of a pigs ear.


I'm not sure many managers could do much with what he has been allowed to bring in. Saying that you bring in a load of lads from a league that's poor and your fighting an uphill battle straight away. Also got to say if this was Graeme lee in charge he would be getting pelters, especially off a few on here.


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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
loyal_fan wrote:
what a difference a half makes.
Bradford obviously told to press a little higher up and we had no answer to it.
They will be up there at end of season, but v disappointing after we went behind we never laid a glove on them.

Without picking on people not sure what Hastie has been told to do, gives ball away time and again and doesn't appear to have a football brain in his head..not sure why he lasted 90 mins.
Lacey is also conference standard....which given where we got him from isn't a surprise.
Cooke is a step up on any midfielder we had last year, Sylla is very good at breaking up play and Sterry is still class---but seems to do his best work just after he's made a mistake
Mcdonald plenty of step overs for youtube but no real end product.
Well beaten today and the way it happened in the second half other teams will find easy to repeat
Realistically its all about do we have enough to avoid relegation....hopefully we do.


Cant fault the effort.
But can see us getting 12 draws.
But struggling to see were the 12 wins are coming from to stay in the EFL.
Like i said after Walsall take 3rd bottom all season long.
No quality what so ever in this horrendous recruitment.
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12 wins we will be lucky to get 6.


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Hugely disappointing that we are under pressure 5 games in. If things haven't improved in 5 games time that is long enough for me and the manager will go. The blame is with the players also and recruitment, plus ultimately the chairman. It's a huge gamble to blow a major part of the budget signing unproven players from Scotland. Raj needs to splash the cash on 4/5 very decent experienced loan signings. If he doesn't invest now I'm not sure this group are good enough. I'm usually optimistic and want to give people time but I can't see what the plan is. Two shots on target today.


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Not sure why Hartley is getting a pass on recruitment
What budget he has he has spent on Murray and hastie who appear 2 massive bollocks dropped and then niang tumilty and Patterson who won’t be near the 1st team but were likely cheaper


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Not sure why Hartley is getting a pass on recruitment
What budget he has he has spent on Murray and hastie who appear 2 massive bollocks dropped and then niang tumilty and Patterson who won’t be near the 1st team but were likely cheaper


Think he gets a pass because most fans know he is working under constraints that I doubt 99 percent of clubs in this league are under. No manager will last long here the way things are.


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The budget will be good enough and other teams doing well haven't splashed the cash. We have signed players on Hartleys word who aren't good enough. Why when we have a head of recruitment I'm not sure. So a change will be needed there too.


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