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Err why is the Saturday game on at 1pm on Saturday.

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Err why is the Saturday game on at 1pm on Saturday.


Thanks for pointing that out - It wouldn't have been the first time I'd have been driving into Hartlepool when the game was already over (last game of the season against Salford a few years back).

As for the reason, Cleveland Police obviously didn't fancy coping with the Bradford hordes at the same time that the Banbury massive was in Darlington :lol:


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Pools will break this home duck we have - finally creating the atmosphere in which we all held high hopes for when teams would fear coming to the Vic - atm its lost all that hasnt it ? We should get 2 goals - maybe even leak one. Due a penalty in which Feaths dispatched with ease. Umerah again to the rescue with a fine finish towards the latter stages of the game to put all the nerves to rest. everyones happy and we look onto Bradford in which i think we get a draw.


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Err why is the Saturday game on at 1pm on Saturday.


Thanks for pointing that out - It wouldn't have been the first time I'd have been driving into Hartlepool when the game was already over (last game of the season against Salford a few years back).

As for the reason, Cleveland Police obviously didn't fancy coping with the Bradford hordes at the same time that the Banbury massive was in Darlington :lol:

No problems it surprised me too.

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Given the problems last season with pissed up "supporters" at the Braford match, I guess the early KO is understandable.


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Given the problems last season with pissed up "supporters" at the Braford match, I guess the early KO is understandable.

In that case a 9am kick off might be the best option :laugh:

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Snowy wrote:
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Given the problems last season with pissed up "supporters" at the Braford match, I guess the early KO is understandable.

In that case a 9am kick off might be the best option :laugh:


You can't really blame them. They see a day away from Bradford, especially one at the seaside as a joyous occasion and their excitement takes charge and eventually boils over.
The rock shops and kiss me quick hat sellers will have a field day.
Come to think of it the donkeys will be on the beach already. That should be some spectacle, I've never seen a donkey on a donkey. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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Snowy wrote:
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Given the problems last season with pissed up "supporters" at the Braford match, I guess the early KO is understandable.

In that case a 9am kick off might be the best option :laugh:


No doubt that option was given due consideration but a 1 o'clock kick off was chosen as the best option since it restricted potential drinking time without compromising people's hard earned weekend lie ins.


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A pity though that the majority have to change their plans to accommodate a minority of those who can’t hold their drink.
Can’t their coaches be redirected to drop them off at the beach near Longscar and they’ll be able make sandcastles….. don’t ell em about the tide :laugh:

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Need a win tonight. Any win will do. 1-0 Pools 3600. Umerah 65mins


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Given the problems last season with pissed up "supporters" at the Braford match, I guess the early KO is understandable.

In that case a 9am kick off might be the best option :laugh:


You can't really blame them. They see a day away from Bradford, especially one at the seaside as a joyous occasion and their excitement takes charge and eventually boils over.
The rock shops and kiss me quick hat sellers will have a field day.
Come to think of it the donkeys will be on the beach already. That should be some spectacle, I've never seen a donkey on a donkey. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


Ahhh the donkeys on the beach.
I seem to recall a local farmer tried to get this going again a few years ago but for some reason it stopped but cant remember why?

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I would drop Murray for McDonald and play 4-3-3 give hastie a chance out wide


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So he’s dropped our best player from sat and has 2 defensive mids on the bench….bizarre


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So he’s dropped our best player from sat and has 2 defensive mids on the bench….bizarre


Could be a lack of game time for Sylla? Hoping Crawford is just injured as no clue how he’s fallen so far down the pecking order.

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Can we keep a clean sheet? We will need to prevent anywhere near the 17 shots at our goal we allowed on Sat. Fingers crossed, eh.


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Can't make the game so watching on i follow with tequila and grape Fanta mixer. 2-1 win hopefully. Come on.


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I know it's nearly half time, but I reckon it will stay 0-0.


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I see the poor supporters of Carlisle have seen their match at Grimsby abandoned because the pitch looks waterlogged after incessant rain this evening.


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Killip our third best player on the night. Hastie poor, his replacement Taylor not strong enough. Midfield poor. Substitutions had no effect. One shot on target was it? Worrying. Why they settled for a point I'm not sure but glad they did.


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He has to play some one alongside josh up top and stop the ball coming straight back cos we carnt press or hold the ball up.


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According to Sporting Life stats we had 5 shots on goal but only one was on target. The trannies had 11 shots, 5 on target. As we were the home side I guess you'd hope for more than a single shot on target. Hey ho, we are a work in progress. .


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Only a point behind the DC 11 who lost their 3rd out of 4 games but never mind it was the fault of the officials whenever they lose!

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Watched at home …very odd. Not disappointed by the defence at all.

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Some decent individual performances - Macdonald, Umerah and Killip (again) - but an ineffective midfield and some puzzling substitutions. My view of the game - some may have different views - and some may wish to abuse.


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Brian Honour's Left Foot wrote:
Some decent individual performances - Macdonald, Umerah and Killip (again) - but an ineffective midfield and some puzzling substitutions. My view of the game - some may have different views - and some may wish to abuse.


Add Menayese and Lacey to the list of players who did well.

Chuffed by the way Lenny's passing was marked before and during the game, and hats off to the NWC for their non-stop support for the team during the second half. Unfortunately, the winning goal never quite looked like coming...

I thought the ref was very poor tonight - conned time and again by a very cynical Tranmere defence in the first half and allowed them to get away with some blatant time wasting in the second. They came on a smash and grab mission and weren't good enough to steal a win.

Pools are still crying out for a goalscoring No.10 to play off Josh Umerah - Paul Hartley knows that better than anyone and keeps saying it. Still, McDonald and Sylla look like squad upgrades already so the latest signings are going in the right direction. Pity the points total isn't.


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Only a point behind the DC 11 who lost their 3rd out of 4 games but never mind it was the fault of the officials whenever they lose!

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Some decent individual performances - Macdonald, Umerah and Killip (again) - but an ineffective midfield and some puzzling substitutions. My view of the game - some may have different views - and some may wish to abuse.


Add Menayese and Lacey to the list of players who did well.

Chuffed by the way Lenny's passing was marked before and during the game, and hats off to the NWC for their non-stop support for the team during the second half. Unfortunately, the winning goal never quite looked like coming...

I thought the ref was very poor tonight - conned time and again by a very cynical Tranmere defence in the first half and allowed them to get away with some blatant time wasting in the second. They came on a smash and grab mission and weren't good enough to steal a win.

Pools are still crying out for a goalscoring No.10 to play off Josh Umerah - Paul Hartley knows that better than anyone and keeps saying it. Still, McDonald and Sylla look like squad upgrades already so the latest signings are going in the right direction. Pity the points total isn't.

Menayese was my man of the match and once into his stride he dominated……….. Umerah was getting battered and dragged all over the place and the ref was totally oblivious to their crude tactics or more likely appeared to just accept it.
McDonald could be a promising addition a very busy player. Hastie was confusing to me, he’d be off and the get lost but there’s something about him that might just be worth persevering with, his replacement by Taylor was disappointing from the viewpoint he was easily outclassed by the Stockport players.

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A tepid football match it was. Pools were okay in parts.

Umerah, McDonald and Killip good.

Crawford and Shelton miss out entirely due to us having 6 centre mids - and yet it feels we are still crying out for creativity and pace in the middle of the park. Umerah needs a strike partner and I don’t see where the goals are coming from across the team.


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2 clean sheets at home has got to be the positive. We have to do something about finding some goalscorers from somewhere or we won't win enough games. Certainly not the exciting football we were promised, guess it's just got to get better.


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Taylor was disappointing from the viewpoint he was easily outclassed by the Stockport players.


Were you watching both matches at once Snowy?

Sorry Ellis, but you need to be stronger than you have shown so far to be effective in this league.

How the ref managed to add only 4 minutes of added time was totally baffling - he needs a new watch along with spectacles, although he did start the game quite well.

Killip was struggling to clear the halfway line against the wind in the first half, so surely the management should have told the strikers to come 15-20 yards deeper? To compound the problem, we didn't use the wind to our advantage in the second half - some of Killip's clearances being too heavy, & Ferguson's wasted free kick being cases in point.

Hartley's summarised that the wide men need to get higher up the pitch. The Umerah Youtube clips show him laying the ball off wide & getting on the end of crosses, yet last night he was having to take the ball wide himself, with nobody busting a gut to get on the end of his crosses.

Getting those wide men further up the pitch, or moving inside should also create more space for Sterry & Ferguson to get further forward, which has been our strength in the last 2 seasons. Ferguson, in particular, seems cramped for space & needs to get into the final 20-25 yards of the wing to be his most effective.

Sylla looked impressive, winning balls on both the ground & in the air.

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Taylor was disappointing from the viewpoint he was easily outclassed by the Stockport players.


Were you watching both matches at once Snowy?

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Sorry, my ‘Challinor Syndrome’ kicked in :o :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

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I'm sure Taylor will be decent in the future but he's a bit lightweight for men's football just now, just doesn't look ready yet. Sure nerves will play it's part as well. We look ok but a definite work in progress, really need more help from midfield going forward and another striker to ease the burden on Umerah, who by the way is an absolute workhorse!


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The treatment Umerah got off certain Stockport defenders was awful but that excuse for a referee was happy to be a spectator.

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2 clean sheets at home has got to be the positive. We have to do something about finding some goalscorers from somewhere or we won't win enough games. Certainly not the exciting football we were promised, guess it's just got to get better.

got to agree with you for once. Watched it on ifollow and found me turning around and seeing what she was watching on the telly. Some lads did have decent games without an end product on view. If it had been an away game i,d have been happy but its another case of one point gained but 2 lost. One right signing at the top end of the team could change things around but at present when sides have trouble scoring it will give the opposition more confidence to attack and push on because their defence have nothing to fear.


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2 clean sheets at home has got to be the positive. We have to do something about finding some goalscorers from somewhere or we won't win enough games. Certainly not the exciting football we were promised, guess it's just got to get better.

got to agree with you for once. Watched it on ifollow and found me turning around and seeing what she was watching on the telly. Some lads did have decent games without an end product on view. If it had been an away game i,d have been happy but its another case of one point gained but 2 lost. One right signing at the top end of the team could change things around but at present when sides have trouble scoring it will give the opposition more confidence to attack and push on because their defence have nothing to fear.


Look at the difference Armstrong made to the team. Changed us instantly. A point at home isn't good enough if you can't get anything away. Hopefully something will get done soon enough to avoid being in a scrap.


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In this league one striker up top will always struggle, especially when he is feeding on scraps. He needs support but, equally as important, strikers need supply and I mean quality supply.
Lack of quality supply is one of the main reasons for lack of goals. We don't have a consistent playmaker pulling the strings or a box to box man supporting the top end.
We are far from being anywhere near the finished article and hit far too many hopeful punts.
I thought we looked disjointed and were waiting in hope for something to happen, instead of making it happen.
I'm sure PH sees this and needs time to get all the pieces and fit them together.
It'll come.
Just keep us up, Paul and we'll take it from there.
I see moneybags Stockport and their great white hope of a manager aren't having it all their own way either.
Then there's the sleeping giant in Bradford who are still in slumber and maybe will have to look for a new alarm clock.
It is not easy.

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Look at the difference Armstrong made to the team. Changed us instantly. A point at home isn't good enough if you can't get anything away. Hopefully something will get done soon enough to avoid being in a scrap.

It wasn,t just armstongs goals but his presence in the team that seemed to turn oates from zero to hero therefore 2 players for the price of one. lets hope we strike lucky with the right man again coming in but the clock is starting to tick a bit quicker now.


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I see moneybags Stockport and their great white hope of a manager aren't having it all their own way either.
Then there's the sleeping giant in Bradford who are still in slumber and maybe will have to look for a new alarm clock.
It is not easy.

its not because for a lot of times new players brought in are not improvements on the ones that have left but just changes.


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Feels like we've had a number of seasons in the last decade where our loan signings have provided the quality and they've gone on to bigger and better things (a number finding regular football in the championship). That's probably to be expected for a league 2 club that might not be a particularly attractive long-term prospect.

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I see moneybags Stockport and their great white hope of a manager aren't having it all their own way either.
Then there's the sleeping giant in Bradford who are still in slumber and maybe will have to look for a new alarm clock.
It is not easy.

its not because for a lot of times new players brought in are not improvements on the ones that have left but just changes.


Aye and this apparent merry go round of players is fuelled by unscrupulous agents to financed their evil existence. Leeches one and all.

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Aye and this apparent merry go round of players is fuelled by unscrupulous agents to financed their evil existence. Leeches one and all.

yes, the days seem long gone when you knew opponents players nearly as much as we did our own.


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derwent wrote:
In this league one striker up top will always struggle, especially when he is feeding on scraps. He needs support but, equally as important, strikers need supply and I mean quality supply.
Lack of quality supply is one of the main reasons for lack of goals. We don't have a consistent playmaker pulling the strings or a box to box man supporting the top end.
We are far from being anywhere near the finished article and hit far too many hopeful punts.
I thought we looked disjointed and were waiting in hope for something to happen, instead of making it happen.
I'm sure PH sees this and needs time to get all the pieces and fit them together.
It'll come.
Just keep us up, Paul and we'll take it from there.
I see moneybags Stockport and their great white hope of a manager aren't having it all their own way either.
Then there's the sleeping giant in Bradford who are still in slumber and maybe will have to look for a new alarm clock.
It is not easy.


It's certainly not easy. Both those clubs have got off to bad starts and yet both are still above us, early days we know. Problem we have is 1 goal in 5 games, no sign of a midfield that's hardly had a goal in them in their careers let alone in a season and a forward that's fighting an impossible battle. I thought under Hartley we would be up and at teams, attacking intent, so far nowhere near that, that has got to be a major concern. He doesn't appear to be a happy bunny, certainly not done a Challinor and tried to get the fans on his side.

Challinor was found out a little away from home, it's no shock once again they have lost both away league games, but you look at their firepower compared to ours and you realise the job Hartley has on.


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