Did 10 minutes online research to get my brain working this morning and it turns out there are 3 plants building engines and rolling stock in the UK. At Newton Aycliffe (the one I knew about), plus Newport and Derby - and one about to come online at Goole. Needless to say, they are all foreign owned - Hitachi (Japan) CAF (Spain), Alstom (Germany) and Germany again for the new Siemens plant building at Goole.

They've all had massive UK government subsidies to get built, but at least they provide well-paid jobs for British workers.

we will own sod all eventually in this country even though jobs will still be available. even in football we get more and more foreign ownership of clubs especially the yanks.

One of the main reasons they manufacture stuff here is it’s easier just to shut up and move production elsewhere.

World markets are the norm these days and shares in the top industries are globally owned. Anybody can purchase shares at any time. Gone are the days when a company's
ownership is passed down the family. Global purchase or investment serves to illustrate how much our home based companies are attractive to others. That is good for our economy and our jobs market.
We are experts at knocking our country but thankfully the rest of the World still find us appealing.
We are still major players. We led the fight against the banking crisis, the covid crisis and ask Ukraine who they trust most.

We all hate the premiership but in reality it is the most attractive and sought after product in the World of football. I80 countries buy it's games, it's clubs are fought over by investors, it's players come from all over the world to play here. Top managers turn up. Since it's inception magnificent facilities have been provided, considerable community work and involvement takes place.
What did we have before it.
And I can't abide it but I've got give credit where it's due.
I just wish the wealth it creates filtered down a bit more.

the problem in the future may not be the present owners, but i for one do not fancy a country that is run by chinese or indian investors which could easily happen.

They find this country appealing because it is an absolute laundromat.

It happens everywhere, the problem is how do you stop it in an open market.

So what do you suggest?

The press are doing a good job of creating hysteria by drip feeding ever increasing estimates of what the average bills are going to be from so-called "expert academics".
Just listening to Jeremy Vine whipping it up with a women crying on the phone.
This is s*it.

What I can’t understand is the energy companies are making massive profits yet the government is contributing to them by giving people grants for their energy bills, the more money the government give away the more profits the energy companies will make.

And the more tax from profits and VAT from sales the gov will get.

There was a very interesting item on BBC2 Newsnight last night which put the blame for the fast rising energy prices on the French because a fault has taken half the nuclear plants in France off-line https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m ... t-11082022 . Coupled with the problems in the gas market and Putin we are in an almighty mess.

The same with fuel, the higher it goes the more tax and vat the government receives.
All these handouts the government are giving are the proceeds from from tax on higher utility and fuel bills so probably they are not much out of pocket.

well they need to get money in to pay for all the free covid handouts some got and other costs involved with it. as with the water shortage i doubt we are on our own this winter. hope it does not take deaths to show up the net zero dogma they want to follow no matter what. lets sort out the present and leave the future for a few years to obtain some stability. 10 years is not even a pimple on the arse of a world thats been around millions of years and surely the greenies can see that not everything can be changed overnight or in a governments timeline.

We will all be ok as that tw*t of a Labour leader is giving a speech tomorrow on how his party are going to solve all our problems.

Can someone phone him and tell him that "might" happen if Labour were in power and that most likely won't happen for several years yet.

It's easy promising the world when you can't actually deliver, yes let's form our own party with the strapline that nobody earning under £30k pays no tax, council rates are abolished and gas & electricity are free. Now that's a vote winner. God knows how that's paid for!

I think he should be called SIR KEIR STARMER BS and you can guess what the BS stands for.

its just politics and do they actually believe themselves what they tell others. all politicians would gain more credit if they attemped to get together to get their country out of the present forthcoming crisis better than other countries do. that aint ever going to happen with the self servers playing some sort of game that affects people and their lives.

Starmer has released his "vision" of how to control spiralling energy costs and says it has been fully costed.

Yes by whom, I can only imagine by Diane Abbott using her abacus

Part of the savings to fund the energy price cap comes from NOT paying the £400 across the 6 month period as already promised by BoJo & Co. Surely this makes everything much worse.

You wouldn't let Starmer teach 5 year olds maths in primary school would you?

We need a creditable opposition party but where is it going to come from?

There has always been the cry of pool your talent for the good of the nation but they'd rather knock spots off each other by twisting each others ideas simply to score points with the simple intention of gaining power.
This leadership campaign is even making them knock spots off their so called bedfellows.

I don’t want Starmer or Labour or who ever to win the next election, the Tories have been in power 13 years and we are in a big mess, let them sort it out, irrespective of what’s happening on the planet,it’s not going to be sorted by the next election and what party would want to be in government, they would just be swimming against the tide.

It's all about power, Jamie. Some of these people would put up with virtually anything to get their name above the door, so to speak.

Nowadays all our politicians are career politicians, straight from uni into politics, they have no idea what’s it’s like at the grass roots level.
Johnson will make a come back after Truss f**** it up, he will be installed as PM prior to the next G.E., he is on a huge ego trip. He appears to think there nothing wrong to lie to Parliament and the Queen.

what do people expect when anyone in parliament cannot call someone who does not tell the truth a liar. its like some club for toffs.

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