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 Post subject: Charlie and Rwanda.
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Now I have the greatest of respect for the Queen but she needs to call Chas round for a chat and explain she got where she is today by keeping out of politics and nodding.
He’s criticising the Rwanda flights and rule No1 is constitutional monarchs do not get involved in politics….. there’s always a Cromwell around the corner.

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William was pictured selling the "Big Issue" this week which pokes his figure into Politics as well.


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Good point, they have to scrupulous in their words and choices.

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Good point, they have to scrupulous in their words and choices.


Pretty much like The Bunker then.

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Now I have the greatest of respect for the Queen but she needs to call Chas round for a chat and explain she got where she is today by keeping out of politics and nodding.
He’s criticising the Rwanda flights and rule No1 is constitutional monarchs do not get involved in politics….. there’s always a Cromwell around the corner.


The only thing that stops my being a republican is the thought that Tony Blair or some such former politician could become president.


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The big question is will the flight be going on Tuesday and how many will be on it, I can’t see anyone volunteering to go to Rwanda ? Everyone including the unions involved in the flight are supporting the appeal, currently the government are refusing to reverse the decision, another ill thought out scheme which will cost millions to the taxpayer.
Yes we need a solution to stop the channel crossing albeit the French don’t do a great deal to discourage it. Surely the French know who supply the craft along with the engines to the people smugglers and could put a stop to the sales of them ?


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Mind you the sauce, according to the press, is an unnamed person who allegedly overheard Charlie's remarks.
I'm tempted to take that with a pinch of salt as well.

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The big question is will the flight be going on Tuesday and how many will be on it, I can’t see anyone volunteering to go to Rwanda ? Everyone including the unions involved in the flight are supporting the appeal, currently the government are refusing to reverse the decision, another ill thought out scheme which will cost millions to the taxpayer.
It’s as Voltaire said…’Pour encourager les autres’…. To encouarage the the others by making an example of, to deter by example. There’s no volunteering involved by the way, or the usual suspects wouldn’t be in the High Court pleading.
Yes we need a solution to stop the channel crossing albeit the French don’t do a great deal to discourage it. Surely the French know who supply the craft along with the engines to the people smugglers and could put a stop to the sales of them ?
The French do what they can get away which is as little as possible, they don’t want them either. Seen documentary evidence of French police standing by as they assemble and launch the rubber dinghy’s they’ve got a bigger problem than we have, a walk around Paris reveals that.

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Now I have the greatest of respect for the Queen but she needs to call Chas round for a chat and explain she got where she is today by keeping out of politics and nodding.
He’s criticising the Rwanda flights and rule No1 is constitutional monarchs do not get involved in politics….. there’s always a Cromwell around the corner.


The problem with hereditary monarchies is that, like any family, they throw up wrong 'uns from time to time. Her Madge's favourite son is in permanent disgrace. As for her eldest, plenty of recent profiles warn that he doesn't have the good sense to want to emulate his mother:

'Robert Jobson’s all but officially endorsed biography of Prince Charles from 2018 describes a future king who expects to “lead as monarch, not just follow”. One “close source” said that Charles III “will want a seat at the table, not just to be briefed or rubber-stamping the decisions after they are taken”. A raucously divided country, with a border in the Irish Sea and a separatist government in Scotland, will soon have a puffed-up monarch adding his demands to the unstable mix.

'Greenish readers who believe that interventions from an ecological King Charles would be welcome should look at where his environmentalism comes from and where it leads. Charles’s widely unread Harmony: A New Way of Looking at the World is another book worth forcing yourself to plod through. It sets out an obscurantist vision that is so reactionary it opposes all aspects of modernity from the scientific revolution on. Hence his belief in quack “alternative” medicines, the damage to health they bring notwithstanding. His wide-eyed mysticism takes him far from the Anglicanism of his mother. One can only pity the archbishop of Canterbury when the next supreme governor of the Church of England explains how he has found the ”sacred geometry” of the orbit of Mercury sits “within the orbit of the Earth in such a proportion that it fits exactly over the pentagon at the heart of the five-pointed star”.'


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He worries me, he’ll be the death of the monarchy.

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Go Charles.


Where to Ed ????? Rwanda perhaps??? He is going there later on representing his Mummy as head of the Commonwealth.

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go charles...have we all forgotten tampongate...?


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He’s as thick as f#&k if he can’t see the trouble he’s making for himself…… someone detached from reality living in la la land and thinking Pooh Bear would make an excellent delegate for Commonwealth Wildlife.

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Perhaps hes doing it deliberately to make sure he doesn't get the "big"job.
Anyone got any odds?

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He’s as thick as f#&k if he can’t see the trouble he’s making for himself…… someone detached from reality living in la la land and thinking Pooh Bear would make an excellent delegate for Commonwealth Wildlife.

keep it up charlie. put your oar into as much as possible to upset more british residents to hasten the end of the monarchy. need him now to put his opinion on trans issues and how we should all be grateful to them. upset more women as possible where your support is the highest and you,ll be gone.


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The only thing that stops my being a republican is the thought that Tony Blair or some such former politician could become president.

Thats what monarchy lovers want us to believe. If the country did vote a blair type to be president we,d have to live with it. at least he was voted for and not thrust on us by accident of birth. anyone thought of another way the country could go down once the queen does die. how about voting for her successor out of the whole of the royal family. i,m sure this would go down better with the average man in the street who is not bothered one way or the other about a republic.


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Perhaps hes doing it deliberately to make sure he doesn't get the "big"job.
Anyone got any odds?


That would be the ultimate mug punter's bet.

He's been desperate to be king his whole life - it's his birthright. Not a flying fuck's chance that he'll pass the baton to William without taking his turn.


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Where to Ed ????? Rwanda perhaps??? He is going there later on representing his Mummy as head of the Commonwealth.



Maybe he could return some of the mobile phones that get tossed off the boats before they land here.


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William seem to getting groomed for in job IMO.
Andrew is helping him out.

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Maybe he could return some of the mobile phones that get tossed off the boats before they land here.

there will be more of them at the bottom of the channel than there was spares from shot down fokkers back in 1945.


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Maybe he could return some of the mobile phones that get tossed off the boats before they land here.

there will be more of them at the bottom of the channel than there was spares from shot down fokkers back in 1945.

They should be an hazard to shipping shortly…. Ferry runs aground mid channel after hitting a mobile phone/passport bank.

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The only thing that stops my being a republican is the thought that Tony Blair or some such former politician could become president.

Thats what monarchy lovers want us to believe. If the country did vote a blair type to be president we,d have to live with it. at least he was voted for and not thrust on us by accident of birth.

Hitler was elected, it’s not foolproof when you’re dealing with people with a lust for power.

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William seem to getting groomed for in job IMO.
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He looks a decent enough fella and Kate looks a decent enough lass.i'd go along this route .Snowy might argue that Camilla looks great wearing Dior but i think Kate is the real English Rose.


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The big question is will the flight be going on Tuesday and how many will be on it, I can’t see anyone volunteering to go to Rwanda ? Everyone including the unions involved in the flight are supporting the appeal, currently the government are refusing to reverse the decision, another ill thought out scheme which will cost millions to the taxpayer.
Yes we need a solution to stop the channel crossing albeit the French don’t do a great deal to discourage it. Surely the French know who supply the craft along with the engines to the people smugglers and could put a stop to the sales of them ?




They can claim asylum in any safe country they have passed through or come here illegally and be escorted to Rwanda.Says something about the EU if they want to come here that bad eh..credit to Boris and his team ??


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Jamie1952 wrote:
The big question is will the flight be going on Tuesday and how many will be on it, I can’t see anyone volunteering to go to Rwanda ? Everyone including the unions involved in the flight are supporting the appeal, currently the government are refusing to reverse the decision, another ill thought out scheme which will cost millions to the taxpayer.
Yes we need a solution to stop the channel crossing albeit the French don’t do a great deal to discourage it. Surely the French know who supply the craft along with the engines to the people smugglers and could put a stop to the sales of them ?




They can claim asylum in any safe country they have passed through or come here illegally and be escorted to Rwanda.Says something about the EU if they want to come here that bad eh..credit to Boris and his team ??

Saw a documentary about them trying to get to the UK, and according to the Dutch police it’s ID Cards…. We’re the only country who doesn’t have them, makes life easier for them.

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Always manage to keep their fones and tabs yet their passports disappear




Taylor -made cigarettes they smoke down here at £9 upwards for 20 how can they afford them? ...And i have to make do with roll ups. :roll:


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doubt they have the worry of gas and electric prices food costs like we have. feel sorry for our dinghy brothers as surely their pocket money should be increased along with inflation. i,m sure the rich lefties would not mind paying more taxes for that. plus a free leccy car once they become legal to look for work.


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I don’t understand why when people arrive in the country like this they aren’t kept in secure detention till it can be determined just who they are for as long as it takes.
Putting them in hotels and basically no apparent restriction on their movement/ activities defies belief. The RNLI must bring more people over the channel than your average ferry company.

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As of Friday there were 130 people notified they could be removed. Today it's down to 11 and what figure do you think it will be by tomorrow?

Probably BUGGER ALL?

We are such a soft touch, helped by all the "bleeding hearts" do gooders.

Let them be sent to Rwanda and make their claims for asylum seeking in GB once they are there - SIMPLES.

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As of Friday there were 130 people notified they could be removed. Today it's down to 11 and what figure do you think it will be by tomorrow?

Probably BUGGER ALL?

We are such a soft touch, helped by all the "bleeding hearts" do gooders.

Let them be sent to Rwanda and make their claims for asylum seeking in GB once they are there - SIMPLES.

banghead


Yep the lawyers will raking it in at the tax payers cost as all will be receding legal aid, the plane and staff will already have been on standby so another cost.
I agree some thing has to done but this was a very ill thought out scheme, did any one actually think they were going to board the plane voluntary ?


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There should be no question of the going on the plane voluntarily, it shouldn’t be an option, if called they go.
Everytime these things occur, the shrill shrieking of the affronted rush to court and our other worldly judiciary roll over to have their belly’s tickled and cave in to them, do they live in a world of unicorns and rainbows, because these ethereal souls are orbiting another planet.

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There should be no question of the going on the plane voluntarily, it shouldn’t be an option, if called they go.
Everytime these things occur, the shrill shrieking of the affronted rush to court and our other worldly judiciary roll over to have their belly’s tickled and cave in to them, do they live in a world of unicorns and rainbows, because these ethereal souls are orbiting another planet.


I can’t disagree but the majority would have to put in a straight jacket secured to the seat of course during the flight the afore said person would want to use the toilet or the alternative is put a nappy on the person, just imagine the hue and cry if the U.K. resorted to that.


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There should be no question of the going on the plane voluntarily, it shouldn’t be an option, if called they go.
Everytime these things occur, the shrill shrieking of the affronted rush to court and our other worldly judiciary roll over to have their belly’s tickled and cave in to them, do they live in a world of unicorns and rainbows, because these ethereal souls are orbiting another planet.


I can’t disagree but the majority would have to put in a straight jacket secured to the seat of course during the flight the afore said person would want to use the toilet or the alternative is put a nappy on the person, just imagine the hue and cry if the U.K. resorted to that.

Frankly if that suggestion was taken any notice of, we’d just have to have someone threaten to shit themselves and then we give in.
Can you imagine it “keep back copper we’re robbing the bank, we’ve got underpants and we’re prepared to shit in them!”…….” OK lads, take the money and go, we won’t interferes”.:naughty: …in real life it don’t work like that.
Some may need restraining, that get’s done anyway, wake up, the majority don’t care, the only ‘hue and cry’ will be from the pedantic, dour faced ego’s who challenge everything yet are affronted when they are challenged.
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Surely this idea was only a stunt to play to an audience and frighten a few prospective asylum seekers.
If Ms Petel had been really serious she should have said they would have been sent to a tower block in Brambles Farm.

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As of Friday there were 130 people notified they could be removed. Today it's down to 11 and what figure do you think it will be by tomorrow?

Probably BUGGER ALL?

We are such a soft touch, helped by all the "bleeding hearts" do gooders.

Let them be sent to Rwanda and make their claims for asylum seeking in GB once they are there - SIMPLES.

banghead

think we all know at the end that the vast majority of these illegals will end up being allowed to stay here. this rwanda affair is just a side show to get many off their case. what does surprise me is what makes these people bleeding hearts in the first place. must be something in their upbringing where they have been manipulated to think the way they do. they seem a certain type who seem to have more time on their hands than i have and i,m retired. always wonder if it was white south africans or zimbabweans if they interest would be the same.


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[quote="Bluestreak"]Surely this idea was only a stunt to play to an audience and frighten a few prospective asylum seekers.

well if that was the case why didn,t they do something at the outset. got a feeling if it wasn,t for a few youtubers and nigel farage the whole thing would have been kept under wraps as long as possible and the numbers landing would have been published as only a small percentage of the landing numbers. the MSM would have been really happy to report that way also. just think back, where did you hear about the dinghy divers first and their numbers. it wasn,t from our woke broadcaster.


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Had the World service on the radio while working at 5 this morning and they interviewed both sides of the debate… firstly the asked the former head of the border force who explained why this just can’t go on ( 2 minutes) … then some women ( who sounded very Australian) rabbited away with no interruptions forever, but never actually explained what we’re supposed to do with these people……turned it off in the end as it all seemed so twee BBC .

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Given that there is only about 7 left would it not be cheaper to fly them in an executive jet with meals, drinks and entertainment provided. Surely this would encourage more to take up the offer unless they are medics, engineers, IT experts etc in which case ......welcome!.
Whilst we are taking about this shite has anyone seen what is happening to the economy and its effect on the vast majority ,Northern Ireland and the Ukraine to name just a few.

Deadcat?????

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The name of the charter company booked by "TRUSS ME" is

PRIVILEGE STYLE

So luxury all the way to Rwanda at a cost of £20,000 per passenger


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The name of the charter company booked by "TRUSS ME" is

PRIVILEGE STYLE

So luxury all the way to Rwanda at a cost of £20,000 per passenger


Plus the cost of legal aid for the barristers defending the others who were supposed to be on the flight.


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Given that there is only about 7 left would it not be cheaper to fly them in an executive jet with meals, drinks and entertainment provided. Surely this would encourage more to take up the offer unless they are medics, engineers, IT experts etc in which case ......welcome!?

As they’re all professions we need, why pay to come across the channel in a dinghy, it really is easier to apply officially, but that said aren’t these queue jumping ahead of legal immigration applicants?
I suspect 90 % of those coming ashore are destined for the black economy, car washes and pizza shops or disappearing altogether…..

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Just put "Border Force" or "Home Office" badge on your car and drive into a car wash and see what happens. :laugh: bbolt

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 Post subject: Re: Charlie and Rwanda.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 5:11 pm 
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Nothing been mentioned that the U.K.is also going take people from Rwanda who are classed as being most vulnerable which is part of the deal.


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 Post subject: Re: Charlie and Rwanda.
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Please don't tell me the plane is going out there with 7 passengers and

coming back FULL

That would just about sum up this inept government if this is true

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 Post subject: Re: Charlie and Rwanda.
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Critical Thinking wrote:
Please don't tell me the plane is going out there with 7 passengers and

coming back FULL

That would just about sum up this inept government if this is true

:o


Just wait till tomorrows front page of the Daily Mail. :laugh:

It make me think though given the massive labour shortage in the UK how shit these 7 must be to get kicked out :?

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 Post subject: Re: Charlie and Rwanda.
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Bluestreak wrote:

It make me think though given the massive labour shortage in the UK how shit these 7 must be to get kicked out :?

Funny how the North East have high unemployment, but no labour shortage here. :roll:
Why is everything based on figures for the leafy suburbs of London…..?

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