the worlds gone crazy...

https://www.hartlepoolunited.co.uk/news ... 23-season/

Have we got enough players

They simply can't leave anything alone.

Give them two years and it’ll be 11 subs.

Yes you're so right Mr S.

I can see there will be 1 half of 11 players with the 2nd half of a different 11.

With 6 points to play for.

You’ve cracked it Mr Critical………in this woke world, they’ll have one half the ‘wimmin’s’ team and in the second half the men’s team, football equality at last…oh dear.

So no use not having a full bench this coming season as we would then start with a big disadvantage as this new rule will man you could now change nearly half the team. the bebch will need to be as strong as your starting 11.

Interesting that the subs can only be made aswell in certain times of the game. Sounds like something the americans would do in their football games. What if someone is injured does that not count ?


Be interesting for sure. Tactical managers who have alot of defenders on the bench can see some park the bus games been had.

It could be a first though when the subs bench outnumbers the travelling hordes of Harrogate and Forest Green.

In other words bang a goal in and try and kill the game stone dead….mind you, that could backfire.

[quote="Eiphos_3"]Interesting that the subs can only be made aswell in certain times of the game. Sounds like something the americans would do in their football games. What if someone is injured does that not count ?


next thing will be time outs 1 per half for both teams making it a possibible 4 per game. in addition rolling subs can be used. Each home side has to appoint a bunch of cheerleaders where at least one has to be from every racial and sexual minority. a minimum lenghth of skirt also that is no more than one inch above the knee. season after the game will be of 4 equal quarters with the results of games being put on the radio at 6pm.

In other words bang a goal in and try and kill the game stone dead….mind you, that could backfire.[/quote]
please delete that snowy as if they read it they,ll bring in bigger goals to stop that happening. how would flapper manage then.

Surprising that a majority of EFL clubs approved this change. What are the 3 designated times in a match (plus half-time) when sending on subs will be permitted? And what happens if a player gets injured a minute after one of the designated times? Will their team have to play on with 10 men for 15-20 minutes till the next permitted substitution break?

The only advantage I can see from a fan point of view is that if the last substitution break is at 80 minutes, say, it'll stop managers running down the clock with pointless substitutions in injury time or just before.

Do not think there is any designated times. You just have during the game 3 opportunities at any time to make a sub. if you only make 1 in the first two then when making your third its the last chance you have to bring anyone new on. It then could be 1,2 or 3 depending what the manager sees fit.

Whats the reason given by the EFL for this change?
In the good old days you had no substitutes.

EFL Rule:-

10 Substitutes
10.1 Subject to Rule 10.3, in all Competition Matches, each Club is permitted to name up to nine substitutes on the Team Sheet, of whom not more than five may take part in the Competition Match. Each Club is only permitted a maximum of three opportunities (excluding half time) to make substitutions during the Competition Match. A Club may make more than one substitution at each of its three opportunities.
10.2 Where either the Semi-Final or Final Tie goes to extra time (in accordance with the provisions of Rule 14.5), then during extra time only each Club participating in that Competition Match will be permitted an additional opportunity to make a substitution from those substitutes listed on the Team Sheet.
10.3 Each Club shall also be permitted to utilise up to two ‘concussion substitutes’ and/or two ‘additional substitutes’ (as appropriate) from those substitutes listed on the Team Sheet, strictly in accordance with the provisions of the International Football Association Board’s ‘Additional permanent concussion substitutes – Protocol B (‘IFAB Protocol’)’ and any associated guidance issued by the League. Use of either a ‘concussion substitute’ or an ‘additional substitute’ in accordance with this Rule 10.3 shall not count towards the five substitutions permitted to take part in the Competition Match in accordance with Rule 10.1 or towards the permitted number of opportunities to make a substitution in accordance with Rules 10.1 and 10.2.. Each Club must provide the League with such information as is necessary to ensure compliance with the IFAB Protocol in respect of any ‘concussion substitute’ made within 10 days of receiving such a request from the League.
10.4 All substitutes must be nominated and included on the Team Sheet handed to the referee prior to the Competition Match. Not more than three substitutes of each Club may warm up or down at the same time on the perimeter of the pitch on which the match is being played.

Like everything in life, the ‘suits’ have to take something that is easy and make it harder because they can…. and because if they didn’t, they wouldn’t have a job, as they are the smirking product of a well paid job creation scheme. where they live rent free in the FA’s head.
Change for the sake of change….all club’s probably having to add to their bench a ‘ Substitute Interpretation Leader’…… to interpret this pig’s ear of a change.

Realistically there should only be 2 substitutes allowed;

1 Goalkeeper &

1 Outfield Player

That's plenty and stops all the waste of time of sending on subs, particularly near the end of the match.

That’s the best option of all so far, that you’ve come up with.

another nightmare situation for a manager. having to make an early substitution for an injury would mean apart from half time they have only one real period to make a tactical sub till late on in fear of finishing with 10. Think the days of risking a player carrying an injury just because he is their first name on the team sheet to start may be over. plus those you want to start but know they are played out after the 60 minute mark may end up as subs only.