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poolie1 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:45 pm **Posts:** 2002

gone...and not many words in that goodbye statement from the club that's for sure..

https://www.hartlepoolunited.co.uk/news ... ves-pools/

The Kit Kat Kid · **Posted:** Tue Jun 07, 2022 8:34 am

That's your day made, then.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37424

The Kit Kat Kid wrote:

That's your day made, then.

Just plain realism, surprised he clung on so long after Lee.

poolie1 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:45 pm **Posts:** 2002

kid.."That's your day made, then."

..thats just the way football works..it is what it is...

https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/sport/ ... ns-3668354

Flying Hogans · **Joined:** Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:29 pm **Posts:** 5525

In all honesty they could have released him the Monday after the last game of the season. What was he needed for after that point that Tony Sweeney couldn't have done just as well?

Having him around longer was just grist to a lot of pointless speculation about where the club was headed.

Eiphos_3 · **Posted:** Tue Jun 07, 2022 9:33 am

very peculiar circumstance this one - maybe he was plan Z.... should we have started the season without Hartley in charge ... dare to think it but he may have started the season as manager - or his contract probation ran out ?

either way - he wont go down in any sort of Pools History - No doubt end up at Shields as a coach.

best of luck to you Mr Nelson - a far better player than manager thats for sure

Bluestreak · **Posted:** Tue Jun 07, 2022 9:42 am

Very strange this one.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37424

He was getting a coaching role till they found he didn’t have a PSV Licence….. “move right down the bus please”.

Johnjo1 · **Joined:** Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:52 pm **Posts:** 1625

Nelson is not daft he knows the score in football and will have been expecting this.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 19717

Eiphos_3 wrote:

either way - he wont go down in any sort of Pools History - No doubt end up at Shields as a coach.

best of luck to you Mr Nelson - a far better player than manager thats for sure

thats the sad part of it with him and lee. they,ll now be remembered more for their managerial/coaching stints than how they played. nelson should be looking for a proper job now away from the game as he will not be the first or last that coaching wasn,t for them.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37424

Their presentational / motivational skills were hardly inspiring either. I can’t recall seeing a post match interview that was watched to the end from either the inability to understand what they were actually talking about or the constant scratching, picking or rubbing every interview featured. I wasn’t expecting Shakespeare’s Henry V, but come on, contact with the fans is a vital part of any managers remit now,we need to be inspired/ motivated and kicked up the arse too at times.

Gerry Mandrake · **Joined:** Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:23 pm **Posts:** 1429

accrington fan wrote:

Eiphos_3 wrote:

either way - he wont go down in any sort of Pools History - No doubt end up at Shields as a coach.

best of luck to you Mr Nelson - a far better player than manager thats for sure

thats the sad part of it with him and lee. they,ll now be remembered more for their managerial/coaching stints than how they played. nelson should be looking for a proper job now away from the game as he will not be the first or last that coaching wasn,t for them.

Disagree, maybe if they'd took us down but it was a short stint with a few highs included.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37424

Gerry Mandrake wrote:

accrington fan wrote:

Eiphos_3 wrote:

either way - he wont go down in any sort of Pools History - No doubt end up at Shields as a coach.

best of luck to you Mr Nelson - a far better player than manager thats for sure

thats the sad part of it with him and lee. they,ll now be remembered more for their managerial/coaching stints than how they played. nelson should be looking for a proper job now away from the game as he will not be the first or last that coaching wasn,t for them.

Disagree, maybe if they'd took us down but it was a short stint with a few highs included.

Does that mean you’d have kept them on

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 19717

Snowy wrote:

Their presentational / motivational skills were hardly inspiring either. I can’t recall seeing a post match interview that was watched to the end from either the inability to understand what they were actually talking about or the constant scratching, picking or rubbing every interview featured. I wasn’t expecting Shakespeare’s Henry V, but come on, contact with the fans is a vital part of any managers remit now,we need to be inspired/ motivated and kicked up the arse too at times.

whilot knock em too much for that. st doing interviews does seem part of managers jobs nowadays i would knock em too much for that. possibly both had little experiance in this field and all scratching etc. shows how nervous they actually were with a mike thrust in their faces. know from my own experiance of being interviewed i got tongue tied and started stuttering like some half wit, but i can easily stand up infront of an audiance i know and talk about something for a good length of time and answer questions.

Flying Hogans · **Joined:** Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:29 pm **Posts:** 5525

Graeme Lee came across as a shy man who was uncomfortable in front of a camera. He struggled to hold eye contact with the interviewer and was constantly looking away to the side as if he'd rather be somewhere else!

That's not necessarily what he was like in a dressing room or on the training pitch. Danny Wilson was one of Pools best managers of recent decades but he could bore from Britain in radio interviews.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37424

Sorry, but it’s part of the job nowadays and anybody going into management needs to realise that. Great if you can get your message over in the dressing room, but equally important is the fact that you now need to get your message over to Joe Public on the terraces in todays game.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 19717

thats why many always remain a number 2 at clubs where its rarer to give interviews and are out of the public eye more.

poolie1 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:45 pm **Posts:** 2002

many...who?

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 19717

poolie1 wrote:

many...who?

well how many names do you want. Before challinor came to pools he had colin woodthorpe as assistant for years. steve evans of many clubs has his pet dog rayner always close by. john coleman has always had jimmy bell as a number 2. possibly most league managers have a number 2 that stay with them for years and never look beyond that position.

poolie1 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:45 pm **Posts:** 2002

accy..""thats why many always remain a number 2 at clubs where its rarer to give interviews and are out of the public eye more.

..how many number twos cos they didnt like the camera.?

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 19717

poolie1 wrote:

accy..""thats why many always remain a number 2 at clubs where its rarer to give interviews and are out of the public eye more.

..how many number twos cos they didnt like the camera.?

do not know, but as we know well that once they do it they are complete rubbish at it. no one could be that bad behind the scenes. its a bit like it was on the buses in my day where a number did not want the top job but were happy to stay as the number 2 in both engineering and traffic positions. too much politics at the top for one when they didn,t suffer fools gladly.

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