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What's the score going to be on the door?

Still PM in the morning or _______ (insert who you want)

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Please let it be Liz Truss :laugh:

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What's the score going to be on the door?

Still PM in the morning or _______ (insert who you want)

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He'll win with a big majority - but then so did Mrs. May and she walked. Bojo won't walk - this time.


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If there was a General Election round the corner he would be out, I don’t think anyone would really want the job either. He will survive but if it’s only by a small majority he might walk although he is thick skinned enough to stay on.


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I don't think the majority of Tory MP's will be relishing the prospect of a leadership contest considering the current problems. I don't expect the no confidence vote to be much higher than 90ish. I may be wrong but it seems daft to me to be even having one.
On the question of a replacement, who knows. Mr I might have an idea.

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It will be interesting to see how Jill Mortimer (she is the Hartlepool MP) votes on this.

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blue..."It will be interesting to see how Jill Mortimer (she is the Hartlepool MP) votes on this."

...you wont ever get to know..its a secret ballot..regardless of what she chooses to say or not to say in public...


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I am sure as a responsible member of parliament she will be honest and open with her constituents as to how she voted.

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Sorry to disappoint, but all quiet on the Western Front.

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Just seen a Hartlepool Mail "scoop" that Mrs Mortimer is indeed backing BJ in the confidence vote.

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Like I said, all quiet on the Western Front. yawn2

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i see nadine dorries has been giving that slimy jezza one of the plotters a piece of her mind like...well done lass... :laugh:

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Jeremy Hunt as prime minister has got to be a joke. He's in the same league as his namesake, Corbyn.

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If Jeremy Hunt was still Health Secretary you’d need to wear a face mask to stand alone on the end of the Heugh breakwater in a force 9 gale.

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Yes he's what is called in cockney rhyming slang

"A Jeremy Hunt"

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The short list if he goes is short.
Cant see anyone credible.

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I've just read on a political forum that Bojo refers to Sir Keir Starmer as

SIR BEER KORMA

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The short list if he goes is short.
Cant see anyone credible.

well there isn,t when they only look for cabinet ministers present or in the past.


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" Big Dog" wins confidence vote . :obscene-drinkingcheers:


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Still all quiet on the western front…… stand down. yawn2

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" Big Dog" wins confidence vote . :obscene-drinkingcheers:


Really? I thought he moved to Stockport?

Ah, wrong Big Dog!


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So the remainers and voted against him. No surprise there then. They've shot their bolt now though as there's nothing they can do now for 12 months.


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mr irrelevant.."They've shot their bolt now though as there's nothing they can do now for 12 months".

..nah..remoaners say its just a rule..and rules can be changed..bit like referendum decisions..


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The ‘remainers’ in the Tory Party have never gotten over the result and will have us back in the EU by stealthy steps, and no ‘referendums’ nonsense for them this time.

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Best news the labour party has had since 1997.

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The polls this morning would differ. Boris is a rogue, Starmer has the charisma of a used pizza box, not much to choose really. :laugh:

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So the remainers and voted against him. No surprise there then. They've shot their bolt now though as there's nothing they can do now for 12 months.


There's nowhere near 148 Remainers left among Tory MPs. Some diehard Brexit supporters like Andrew Bridgen, Mark Harper and William Wragg want him out too. Tories who believe the main purpose of the Tory Party is to stay in power think Johnson is now an electoral liability.

Be great for Labour and especially the Lib Dems and Scots Nats if Bojo does stick around!


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There's nowhere near 148 Remainers left among Tory MPs. Some diehard Brexit supporters like Andrew Bridgen, Mark Harper and William Wragg want him out too. Tories who believe the main purpose of the Tory Party is to stay in power think Johnson is now an electoral liability.

Be great for Labour and especially the Lib Dems and Scots Nats if Bojo does stick around!

But not for many voters in the country. Labour in power but selling enything to minor parties to prop them up. More green crap and stepping over backwards for the welsh and scots nationalists.


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BJs continued survival may well be the catalyst for the nationalists in Scotland,Wales and more importantly NI to push forward with more vigour to leave the UK.
Her Majesty will no doubt have a dim view on this.

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BJs continued survival may well be the catalyst for the nationalists in Scotland,Wales and more importantly NI to push forward with more vigour to leave the UK.
Her Majesty will no doubt have a dim view on this.

When Quebec wanted independence from Canada and the realisation dawned that companies were packing up and relocating to Canada they buckled, they’ve never really recovered. As the population of Scotland is 5.3 m, Wales 3.1 million, Northern Ireland 1.8m and England 53m, that’s where the power is.
After Kranky raised the spectre of another referendum last year Mc Vities gave up the ghost and moved lock stock and barrel to their English factories, closing down the plants in Scotland.
They’re glorified County Councils who’ve gone mad since Tony’s daft idea of devolution, Yorkshire has a bigger population than Scotland…..If they want to go, by all means go and Kranky can swap masters from Westminster to Brussels. Doh.
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However they will join the EU who will bank roll them massively as the populations are so small to do so in cost terms and it will suck investment out of England into them.
The dislike many people feel about BJ is stronger in those provinces and they unlike England have other options to pursue and vote on.

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Whatever anyone's views are on this it is great entertainment and i actually look forward to Newsnight etc after years of abstinence. :lol: :lol:

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Whatever anyone's views are on this it is great entertainment and i actually look forward to Newsnight etc after years of abstinence. :lol: :lol:


I've got to admit all this media hype bores me shitless. There are serious issues to be addressed but because the media don't take them seriously we get the same old dross hour after hour.
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Bluestreak wrote:
Whatever anyone's views are on this it is great entertainment and i actually look forward to Newsnight etc after years of abstinence. :lol: :lol:


I've got to admit all this media hype bores me shitless. There are serious issues to be addressed but because the media don't take them seriously we get the same old dross hour after hour.
Whatever floats yer boat Mr Blue.

Interviewing a BBC corespondent who said they’d never let Partygate drop, obsession or witch hunt….or agenda.?
We’ve had this to death yet the media still keep digging the body up, seriously, most people I know don’t give a flying fuck about it any more…… when this comes up on the news even the wife now turns it over or off, that is a bad.

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However they will join the EU who will bank roll them massively as the populations are so small to do so in cost terms and it will suck investment out of England into them.
The dislike many people feel about BJ is stronger in those provinces and they unlike England have other options to pursue and vote on.

The dislike in Scotland for Nationalists of England borders on paranoia, don’t kid yourself the EU give nothing away as the Irish are now finding out when harmonisation of taxation across the EU comes in. After years of being the tax haven for large companies in the EU, all those companies will be shipping out of Dublin to more desirable locations on the continent….. the EU funded ‘Celtic tiger’ of the 90’s bubble burst and I was there to see the consequences… and oddly enough British banks did a lot of the bailing out.

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will never be able to understand nationalism in any country. as a kid the first time i left england for scotland and wales i expected things to be different. got a shock when the grass was the same colour, the trees and birds where the same and peoples accents never changed until you got miles inside the country. its the same with those who want more power for local councils and area ones. doubt there is much difference in wishes of residents in tyne and wear to the ones in greater manchester. we should get closer together and not further apart as there is more strength in numbers.


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bojo still standin...

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The reports about the Capitol Attack are quite chilling with what appears to be clear incitement by Trump.
Has there been any official government comment?

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trump... more smears..russian collusion?..election rigged...more votes than obama...but still "lost" to a vacant dementia patient ?


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However they will join the EU who will bank roll them massively as the populations are so small to do so in cost terms and it will suck investment out of England into them.
The dislike many people feel about BJ is stronger in those provinces and they unlike England have other options to pursue and vote on.


Ah but there are 27 voices in the EU and the minor ones would be very unforgiving if a pokey little state like Scotland got more of the pie than they did.
It seems the only states that are interested in joining the EU are ones who are only interested in what they can take out and never discuss what they can put in. Once the Germans and French get fed up of propping up everyone else the whole thing will collapse. Then where would that leave Scotland.
The rivalry between our nation states only serves to make us weaker.
Personally I would ban the SNP from Parliament. When you consider their main interest is to destroy our current Parliament which in turn begs the question why we tolerate it. Devolution was a daft idea and we should revert back to one country and I include all of Ireland in that.
Mrs Kranky and that clown from Skye could make a living doing a double act on the stage.
Any referendum to split up the union should involve all the electorate and 53 million Englishmen would have a say in it's potential destruction. After all it was the English who created it.

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if the jocks want out fine..the barnett formula goes with them...no more cushy subsidies except those from their e.u masters...and they will need to come up with a currency of their own...and start paying for their own everything for a change..including defence...


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I was in Perth before the referendum in 2014 and you could cut the atmosphere with a knife from certain groups.
Sturgeon is a glorified County Council leader playing El Supremo with her tartan fantasises, more shortbread tin terror than realist, she makes a lot of wishful assumptions that are going to come back to haunt her if she achieves her aim.
They are pure bred nationalists with a chip on their shoulder who’ll always see them selves as victims.

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The EU whos combined GDP dwarfs the UK is not happy with the UK and the chaos it has caused on both sides of the channel.They would be delighted to support fully any new members into it fold as especially ones that were part of the UK. It would give great benefit both strategically and economically to the parties concerned.
Any attempt to ban a party from Parliament is unthinkable and would massively fuel the fire of Independence throughout the nations. The recent elections in NI have shown a significant shift in opinion. Given the gains made by Sinn Fein and the Alliance parties it makes you think how this is going to play out in the coming years.
The Independence genie is out of the bottle and if the English were involved in any referendum they would vote to get rid of Scotland Wales and NI because of years of unfounded discrimination pumped into peoples minds.

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The EU whos combined GDP dwarfs the UK is not happy with the UK and the chaos it has caused on both sides of the channel.They would be delighted to support fully any new members into it fold as especially ones that were part of the UK. It would give great benefit both strategically and economically to the parties concerned.
Any attempt to ban a party from Parliament is unthinkable and would massively fuel the fire of Independence throughout the nations. The recent elections in NI have shown a significant shift in opinion. Given the gains made by Sinn Fein and the Alliance parties it makes you think how this is going to play out in the coming years.
The Independence genie is out of the bottle and if the English were involved in any referendum they would vote to get rid of Scotland Wales and NI because of years of unfounded discrimination pumped into peoples minds.

If they wanna go, they can go….no sleep lost here. If the wanna stay, no sleep lost either.
‘Unfounded discrimination’…… seriously? I think generally speaking you’ll find more resentment and victimhood with our Celtic neighbours.
Unlike the the Irish, Scots and Welsh, the vast majority of English people have no need to wave flags or beat our chests because we know who we are and comfortable with, often mistaken for smugness, but just relaxed about who they are.

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The EU would not get away with giving preferential treatment to Scotland and, welcoming them just because it may be an irritation to the remainder of the UK, would generate division within their ranks. Unity is something they passionately try to display at all times.
As the present global pressures mount even more, and may last for years, it won't be long before the Germans adopt a more "charity begins at home" stance. Same with the French.
Encouraging states to join that would drain their resources even more will be the last thing on their agenda.
There is no way Scotland would be a net contributory to the EU economy and that is a major factor.
They would love us to rejoin and would dance in the streets if Switzerland followed suit but those dreams are out of sight, despite the BBC's and the remoaners best efforts.

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The EU would not get away with giving preferential treatment to Scotland and, welcoming them just because it may be an irritation to the remainder of the UK, would generate division within their ranks. Unity is something they passionately try to display at all times.
As the present global pressures mount even more, and may last for years, it won't be long before the Germans adopt a more "charity begins at home" stance. Same with the French.
Encouraging states to join that would drain their resources even more will be the last thing on their agenda.
There is no way Scotland would be a net contributory to the EU economy and that is a major factor.


Agree that the Scots can't take acceptance by the EU as a given. In the very best case it would take years to negotiate. I do wonder, in the light of the endless row over the Irish protocol, if they have given enough thought to the kind of border an EU Scotland would need to have with England?

It would be a trade barrier and passport control at Berwick-upon-Tweed, no question. Mind, every cloud has a silver lining. Won't take long from here to nip over the border to fill the car with duty frees! :lol:


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The EU is very big and does not have to ask anyone for permission for a small change such as this. Scotland Wales and NI are tiny in comparison.
Countries like France and German have learnt the fact over the past 100+ years that co-operation gets results and isolationism and conflict does not.
Admission to the EU would be fast tracked.
I personally am quite neutral about this matter TBH but i dont want my home country to be isolated further by policies of our past governments of whatever political colour.
Scotland has a minimum price per unit of alcohol which is a bit of let down but tourist from Scotland (pissups) into Berwick might be quite lucrative for the locals.
Would the Scots have tartan passports and where would they get the paint from?

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