New Manager.

peterpool · **Joined:** Mon May 16, 2022 3:11 pm **Posts:** 8

If its Larry we have to get behind him He's a nice bloke and hopefully his run of 4 failures ends here

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37361

peterpool wrote:

If its Larry we have to get behind him He's a nice bloke and hopefully his run of 4 failures ends here

If you were flying away on holiday and the plane failed to take off four times, would you comfortably sit in your seat and tell everyone ….. let’s hope the plane’s run of failures ends here… you’d be talking to yourself…

Double Figures · **Joined:** Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:47 am **Posts:** 845

Whoever it is I can’t wait to be accused of kissing their arse. Mwoah x

medium · **Joined:** Fri Aug 20, 2010 11:32 am **Posts:** 129

Snowy wrote:

‘Medium’ hasn’t been on pontificating and lecturing for a while, probably organising a campaign with Attenborough to make Killip a protected species and the Vic his natural environment.

I am OK.
Had a word with Attenborough. Said he used to deal with the likes of you in the African jungle a few years back.
Cheeky bugger.

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 9439

thebigdog wrote:

The betting has been closed. Rumours of Paul Hartley or Grayson inbound!!!

Wont be Hartley as Cove Tickle Rovers are demanding a 3 figure Compensation Package.
bbolt

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37361

Three figure sum…..? No way will we pay £9.99 for a manager. :angry-tappingfoot:

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 19610

Snowy wrote:

Three figure sum…..? No way will we pay £9.99 for a manager. :angry-tappingfoot:

don,t be a cynic. you know that fee would be spread over 3 years at zero interest.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37361

True Mr A, I can only apologise profusely. :laugh:

poolie1 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:45 pm **Posts:** 2002

https://www.thecelticwiki.com/players/a ... tley-paul/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Hartley

Scottish Third Division: 2011–12 alloa athletic
Scottish First Division play-off winners: 2012–13 alloa athletic
Scottish Championship: 2013–14 dundee
Scottish League Two: 2019–20 cove rangers
Scottish League One: 2021-22 cove rangers

Alloa Athletic P109 W56 D23 L30 win rate..51.38
Dundee P138 W46 D37 L55 win rate..33.33
Falkirk P40 W16 D8 L16 win rate..40.00
Cove Rangers P112 W63 D23 L26 win rate..56.25
Total P399 W180 D91 L127 win rate..45.36

“I said to the lads before the game you’re in football to win. Forget the money – that never motivated me.
When you have a day like this, it’s day you’ve got to enjoy. Because when you stop playing or stop being a manager 10 or 15 years down the line, it becomes such a great memory.
That’s what it’ll be for me. It’s what it should be for the lads when they stop playing because your career goes by in a flash.
They should cherish this moment and enjoy it, because they may never win another medal.
That’s the reality of football. You can be in football for a long time and not win anything."

...a proven winner...with a nasty streak...just the job..?

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37361

poolie1 wrote:

You can be in football for a long time and not win anything."

….and we are the living proof. sadx

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4434

poolie1 wrote:

https://www.thecelticwiki.com/players/all-time-a-to-z-of-celtic-players/h/hartley-paul/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Hartley

Scottish Third Division: 2011–12 alloa athletic
Scottish First Division play-off winners: 2012–13 alloa athletic
Scottish Championship: 2013–14 dundee
Scottish League Two: 2019–20 cove rangers
Scottish League One: 2021-22 cove rangers

Alloa Athletic P109 W56 D23 L30 win rate..51.38
Dundee P138 W46 D37 L55 win rate..33.33
Falkirk P40 W16 D8 L16 win rate..40.00
Cove Rangers P112 W63 D23 L26 win rate..56.25
Total P399 W180 D91 L127 win rate..45.36

“I said to the lads before the game you’re in football to win. Forget the money – that never motivated me.
When you have a day like this, it’s day you’ve got to enjoy. Because when you stop playing or stop being a manager 10 or 15 years down the line, it becomes such a great memory.
That’s what it’ll be for me. It’s what it should be for the lads when they stop playing because your career goes by in a flash.
They should cherish this moment and enjoy it, because they may never win another medal.
That’s the reality of football. You can be in football for a long time and not win anything."

...a proven winner...with a nasty streak...just the job..?

Hard to tell if he is a proven winner or just it's a micky mouse league. The two bigger clubs he has been at, he has suffered more losses than wins. If he is anything like Cooper we would all take that or even John Hughes.

poolie1 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:45 pm **Posts:** 2002

billybrain.."Hard to tell if he is a proven winner or just it's a micky mouse league"

Colwyn Bay
Northern Premier League Premier Division play-offs: 2011
AFC Fylde
Northern Premier League Division One North: 2011–12
Northern Premier League Premier Division play-offs: 2014
National League North: 2016–17
FA Trophy: 2018–19

..some mickey mouse league manager he turned out to be... :laugh:

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RichyHpool · **Posted:** Sat May 21, 2022 3:44 pm

I'd personally have Hartley over Grayson, liked him as a player.

poolie1 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:45 pm **Posts:** 2002

richy.."I'd personally have Hartley over Grayson, liked him as a player."

..25 scotland caps...celtic and hearts...wasn't bad like was he..

https://www.facebook.com/spflofficial/v ... 785128998/

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37361

He’s sounding good to me….. that means we’re getting Grayson. :uhoh:

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 9439

poolie1 wrote:

billybrain.."Hard to tell if he is a proven winner or just it's a micky mouse league"

Colwyn Bay
Northern Premier League Premier Division play-offs: 2011
AFC Fylde
Northern Premier League Division One North: 2011–12
Northern Premier League Premier Division play-offs: 2014
National League North: 2016–17
FA Trophy: 2018–19

..some mickey mouse league manager he turned out to be... :laugh:

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Thats a Champions League CV compared to
Was it Craig Harrisons numerous Welsh Titles
:laugh:

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 19610

RichyHpool wrote:

I'd personally have Hartley over Grayson, liked him as a player.

liked most of our failed managers as players but not as managers. same as others who were say commedians and became straight actors. its two different jobs with no guarentee they,ll be good at both.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37361

Bobby Charlton proved that, but why do club owners even think a great ex player will make a great manager. If they do make it, it’s generally because they were quite obscure players who in reality were prospective managers playing football not necessarily brilliantly.
Let’s be honest, the jobs are poles apart.

Flying Hogans · **Joined:** Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:29 pm **Posts:** 5505

Snowy wrote:

Bobby Charlton proved that, but why do club owners even think a great ex player will make a great manager. If they do make it, it’s generally because they were quite obscure players who in reality were prospective managers playing football not necessarily brilliantly.
Let’s be honest, the jobs are poles apart.

You get the odd exception like Kenny Dalglish. Let's face it, the vast majority of football managers fail whatever their background.

Danny Wilson had a couple of managerial failures before he came to Pools. Some clubs are basket cases behind the scenes whoever takes over. Pools at the minute are a good gig for any manager. That's not been the case since the best days of IOR.

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4434

Flying Hogans wrote:

Snowy wrote:

Bobby Charlton proved that, but why do club owners even think a great ex player will make a great manager. If they do make it, it’s generally because they were quite obscure players who in reality were prospective managers playing football not necessarily brilliantly.
Let’s be honest, the jobs are poles apart.

You get the odd exception like Kenny Dalglish. Let's face it, the vast majority of football managers fail whatever their background.

Danny Wilson had a couple of managerial failures before he came to Pools. Some clubs are basket cases behind the scenes whoever takes over. Pools at the minute are a good gig for any manager. That's not been the case since the best days of IOR.

A good gig to who though? raj has a history of picking the wrong managers then sacking them really quick. We don't seem to be able to keep hold of many staff and don't appear to be able to match wages of most clubs in league 2, so is it a good gig at the moment ? Id agree at the start of last season when there was a feel good factor, but judging by season ticket sales, thats long gone.

I think the club has massive potential, will we ever see it in our lifetimes though?

Flying Hogans · **Joined:** Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:29 pm **Posts:** 5505

Pools are financially stable and well supported. Raj didn't sack Challinor - he walked. Any manager who believes in his own ability won't be put off by a chairman who is also impatient for success.

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4434

Flying Hogans wrote:

Pools are financially stable and well supported. Raj didn't sack Challinor - he walked. Any manager who believes in his own ability won't be put off by a chairman who is also impatient for success.

We are definitely financially stable at the minute, but which manager in their right mind, would want to take on a job where you are scratching around for academy players or national league north lads to survive in league 2?

kebab & chips · **Posted:** Mon May 23, 2022 12:17 pm

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

Flying Hogans wrote:

Pools are financially stable and well supported. Raj didn't sack Challinor - he walked. Any manager who believes in his own ability won't be put off by a chairman who is also impatient for success.

We are definitely financially stable at the minute, but which manager in their right mind, would want to take on a job where you are scratching around for academy players or national league north lads to survive in league 2?

We only signed Carver from NLN,which looks a poor signing.
Bogle won't have come cheap though.

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4434

Sounds like pools and Barrow in for Wild, who has hinted he may go, if they don't get promoted.

Double Figures · **Joined:** Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:47 am **Posts:** 845

Announce Campbell

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 9439

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

Sounds like pools and Barrow in for Wild, who has hinted he may go, if they don't get promoted.

Halifax were on the Beach v Stockport last game.
Never looked like scoring.
Barrow can have Wild.

Johnjo1 · **Joined:** Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:52 pm **Posts:** 1625

Announce Campbell? Please expand

Double Figures · **Joined:** Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:47 am **Posts:** 845

Sulzeer Jeremiah Campbell

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4434

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

Sounds like pools and Barrow in for Wild, who has hinted he may go, if they don't get promoted.

Halifax were on the Beach v Stockport last game.
Never looked like scoring.
Barrow can have Wild.

He will be a great fit then, we have been on the beach for 3 months.

poolie1 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:45 pm **Posts:** 2002

double..."announce campbell"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... eaked.html

...yeah....announce the new upgraded sol/ assistant bonehead combo...

sol
Macclesfield Town P30 W8 D12 L10 win rate..26.7%
Southend United P23 W4 D5 L14 win rate...17.4%

assistant bonehead
blyth spartans P37 W6 D5 L26 win rate....16.2%

..what a team... :laugh:

poolie1 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:45 pm **Posts:** 2002

..announce grayson[wallace]...lets get this over with....ffs

...wa hey.... ey up lad....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu2pxJo3cI0

Double Figures · **Joined:** Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:47 am **Posts:** 845

Sol Campbell assisted by Phil Brown. You heard it here first.

poolie1 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:45 pm **Posts:** 2002

peterpool..."If its Larry we have to get behind him He's a nice bloke and hopefully his run of 4 failures ends here"

..remind me what "peter" is slang for in the good old usa..?

Critical Thinking · **Joined:** Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:50 am **Posts:** 2313

No ,no you've got it all wrong.

There's a gentleman, ex England Manager, with a 46 year career covering 22 Clubs and only 74 wanting to take it easy in Div 2.

Yes you've guessed it - Mr Roy Hodgson

Armchairs will be supplied so we can all have a 90 minute nap once the game starts.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37361

Til we get a manager we’re swinging at anchor going nowhere.
Any signings pre appointment can be dismissed by a new manager quite fairly as ‘nowt to do with me’. In fact if I was a manger I’d resent having players dumped on me by a ‘committee’ and be expected to work with them.
If there’s someone in the pipeline and we’re held up by circumstances ‘somewhere else’ temporarily, I‘d be expecting them to have been drafting out their prep work for some weeks now as regards players.
But until we find out it’ll be people on here coming up with random names who then sign for someone else and are disappointed by the failure of their own prediction which never had a snowball’s chance in hell in the first place.
Meanwhile it’s a sunny morning on the Solent, with me ‘swinging at anchor’ waiting for my motley crew to spoil the peace.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 19610

Flying Hogans wrote:

Pools are financially stable and well supported. Raj didn't sack Challinor - he walked. Any manager who believes in his own ability won't be put off by a chairman who is also impatient for success.

if challinor had been crap then he would have been sacked. the best we can hope for is a bit of success with a good manager before they move on as they will not be here for the long haul. poor ones will continue to be sacked and i doubt many can put a good case for them remaining at the club.

Eiphos_3 · **Posted:** Tue May 24, 2022 1:21 pm

Woodman going in at 5/2 down from a 20/1 outsider just now

poolie · **Joined:** Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:31 pm **Posts:** 879

Kevin thompson just a rumour.......

RichyHpool · **Posted:** Tue May 24, 2022 5:42 pm

Well according to the daily record Hartley was given permission to speak to pools but turned down the offer to keep building at Cove. Not going to be him then

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37361

Datsun seen in the car park. :laugh:

poolie1 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:45 pm **Posts:** 2002

richy..."Well according to the daily record Hartley was given permission to speak to pools but turned down the offer to keep building at Cove. Not going to be him then"

..well.....plan b it is then.....maybe the list of players that were going to be signed by geek boy whether hartley liked it or not didn't impress him too much....then there's working with a bonehead as his assistant to consider....so all in all probably the right choice mate..

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/ ... k-job-efl/

RichyHpool · **Posted:** Tue May 24, 2022 6:11 pm

We will probably end up with plan F

Critical Thinking · **Joined:** Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:50 am **Posts:** 2313

Is that the Plan ending in OFF?

RichyHpool · **Posted:** Tue May 24, 2022 6:38 pm

Haha probably!

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37361

I suspect there never was a plan. If there was, it probably involved tea leaves.

Krampesh · **Joined:** Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:14 am **Posts:** 613

Paul Hartley turning us down doesn't look good but is it an agents move after their client was turned down for a job to show commitment to their current job? I'll back Kevin Thomson if the rumours are true but a Scottish 4th division manager who's managed 1 season doesn't give me much hope. If he's the target why not go for Mike Williamson who's limited management experience is with a professional club.
Still holding out hope for a Pete Wild announcement within the next week

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37361

The horizon seems to be getting further away by the day.

Eiphos_3 · **Posted:** Tue May 24, 2022 8:11 pm

Chesterfield currently lead Mr Wilds Halifax.

Has Greyson been took out the runnin now ?

Krampesh · **Joined:** Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:14 am **Posts:** 613

Rob Law at BBC Tees says Hartley was not offered the job

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4434

Must be a bargain basement manager out there somwhere, that we can trick into being our manager for 6 months or so.

New Manager.

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