Will the new recruitment supremo advise on the new manager or did he feed Lee’s stats into the steam abacus and realised he had to go.

gentlemen ..raise your glasses please...i give you a toast...mr raj singh...a man of his word....saved us from oblivion ..and returned us to the promised land...the true messiah....heres to you sir.. and thank you..NSD...UTP..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKRHWT6xdEU

Poolie 1 you are a hypocrite suggesting a toast to the man who employed Lee and Nelson (the cheap Option) and then chopped them to attempt to save himself when times got tough. we will now see who he brings in as manager and the signings he is allowed to make. I hope you are proud of all the crap you have spouted and the childish name calling will now end -grow up.

essex...."Poolie 1 you are a hypocrite....I hope you are proud of all the crap you have spouted and the childish name calling will now end -grow up."


....hypocrite?..childish?...hark at mr "toxic undercurrents" himself..shall we revisit that infamous post of yours perhaps?...full of your crap and big fat porkies...no shame some people...grow up? ...daft old duffer..past your bedtime pal in your care home?...is that nurse calling lights out ?...

How you have the brass neck to pop up like a dyslexic vulture at times like this to blame everything and I mean everything on Raj regardless, is bordering on disturbing obsession.
How you can keep a straight face when you say…’the man who employed (the cheap option) and then chopped them when times got tough’…. sums you up, because youhavent got a clue what they we’re being paid but always love to go for the nasty option and when times did get tough it was because they weren’t very good at their job apparently, but hey, don’t you let the bleeding obvious alter your deranged obsession with Raj. Sad really.

the same reason that stockport brought in challinor to replace their version of lee. managers have to start a career somewhere but seems how acadamies and youth teams are run its not a good grounding for them to push on.

think the point was reached where there were only two options open to raj. get rid now or give him the summer to sign players and see how it may work out next season. that would have been a massive money wasting gamble where someone else would have to come in and sort the shit show out if this present form continued say into october. giving the timing and plenty of contract talks going on plus summer recruitment i just wonder if there is someone ready now to take over the reigns. be interesting how the team performs tomorrow and if they put on a good show then it makes you wonder how much they are to blame for the situation that occured.

snowy..."How you have the brass neck to pop up like a dyslexic vulture at times like this to blame everything and I mean everything on Raj regardless, is bordering on disturbing obsession."

..there is a group of them on here..but essex is one of the ringleaders ..along with billingham..."utter brass neck".."obsession"...yeah totally agree...and i could think of other words to use.."toxic" for example....

Lee was responsible for seeing a team that competed well with L1 clubs to one that performed at the same level as relegation candidates. I am amazed that Raj admitted his decision to employ Lee was wrong but he cannot afford to make the same mistake again.
I believe it is a mistake to try and imitate Man City and Liverpool with possession football, sideways passing, playing out from the back etc. We need a manager that understands that in the lower reaches of the EFL a direct physical style played with energy and commitment can produce the results for which most of us supporters crave.

laurels gone..but hardys still hanging around like a bad smell..just dont understand that aspect of it all tbh...sweens in charge for the last game?...yes absolutely...dimi or mcguckin alongside?..of course...but hardy....no wayyyyy....well nevermind ..."it is what it is"..."that's just the way football works sometimes"


https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/sport/ ... ns-3668354

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3qcj2MzPYc

My fear was this season’s inertia would carry over into next season and then there’d be a scramble to save the season turning into a battle against relegation…… this is the best time to change course.

Looks like Raj and you share the same opinion then.

[quote="poolie1"]laurels gone..but hardys still hanging around like a bad smell..just dont understand that aspect of it all tbh...sweens in charge for the last game?...yes absolutely...dimi or mcguckin alongside..of course...but hardy....no wayyyyy....well nevermind ..."it is what it is"..."that's just the way football works sometimes"


doubt laurel would be much without hardy as wise wasn,t without morecambe. you,d have thought if one went the other would follow as with most managerial sackings. bit like cutting the leg of a chair to cure woodworm when its affected the whole thing.

Howay Mr A ….even I draw the line at sawing Nelson’s leg off.

snowy.."this is the best time to change course."

..giving the bonehead/geek combo access to next seasons budget was a gamble no sane person could take..we would have been looking at a return to that pit and back to oblivion..well done and full marks to raj for lancing that boil early...

whilst i totally agree with that i can still remember in one of his early games, could have been his first at the vic where we went all long ball for some reason and he got slated for it.

The best League 2 teams Pools have played this season combine a quick passing game with loads of pace going forward. Pools themselves weren't bad at this under Challinor, especially away from home.

Sideways passing and playing out from the back doesn't work when there's bugger all movement up front and no quick players in midfield - as Pools showed in rubbish home games against the likes of Oldham, Scunthorpe and Orient. Switching to hoofball isn't the answer - those teams all had 2 or 3 big centre backs to head that stuff away all day.

"A direct physical style played with energy and commitment" - yes please, along with passing ability and better coaching!

A Div.2 version of rotherham would do. Well at least trotter scouted players of that type they brought in to play their style. Could be a positive.

It does not surprise me. Results have been poor.

blue..."It does not surprise me. Results have been poor."

..as well as all the rest..u know what..maybe raj had just had a bellyfull of this bloke..like a few others...so you want to sign cook on another deal?..and you want to sign your mate morris on a two year deal?...and btw ive just met your other pal trotts?....so.. and how much did you say all this is going to cost me ?...look ..come into my office.. a few things i think we need to discuss....

So raj is not to blame for anything then? Is that what your saying. You don't mind slating a manager every single game,who was given very little to try and compete but the man whos decision was to bring this joke of a decision in the first place is still god.

You could have given Lee more money but we’d have been no better off, he was not the man for the job, that’s why he went. In this case Raj did the right thing.

billysmart.."So raj is not to blame for anything then? Is that what your saying"

...im saying....

1.he stumped up the money to save the club when no one else would.
2.hes continued to finance us since through difficult times even when games were being played behind closed doors and put us on a sustainable financial footing.
3.he employed one of the best managers we have ever had who turned out to be a right snake and ended up being shafted by him after giving him the 3 year contract he wanted.
4.he is responsible for us returning to the football league only 3 years after taking over and it would not have happened without him
5.he recruited "the three amigos" as a group with the full backing of the board and his advisers and when it became clear it wasnt working he took the decisive action necessary to minimise the damage.

..so thats basically what im saying pal...but all we ever get from you and your boring whining obsessional raj hating lackeys is toxic false accusations and innuendo of financial impropriety..if the bloke said he'd had enough and walked because of the tripe dished out on social media by ungrateful morons like you i wouldnt blame him one bit tbh..

So your ok to constantly moan at a manager and name call who received very little help financially to build a team, whether he was the right man for the job or not?

A moron is someone who hides behind his computer name calling people who was trying he is best you utter prick.

We don’t know how much he received.
Making statements like this are just supposition.
As regards the man for the job, no he was not. You saw what he brought in, any impress you?

No raj was right to sack him I've no qualms at all about that, he was never right for the job but the constant name calling by this idiot was uncalled for seems to think he can shout his mouth off about anyone.

The thing is the next manager will go the same way very quickly if the majority of players you bring in are young kids and I think we all know the reason why we are going down this route. Supposition or not.

I could be wrong, but when Lee came in I was gutted, I didn’t say so at the time but expressed my ‘surprise’ at his appointment. I would not rock the boat. We had the Cup runs, which hid a lot, but our management duo had really poor communication skills which seemed to combine with not actually getting any sort of message across and a lazy indifference when interviewed. A classic academy school type approach, where we don’t need to know, ……… but we did, we’re grown ups who pay, we’re customers, you can’t blank us out.
I wonder if these two were sold to Raj as returning ‘heroes’ coming home to save us, but as he wouldn’t really know their background was it at the behest of others and did Raj have it as a trial period because they were untried? Unlike when DC left, accompanied by histrionics (even though he left us), this break was remarkably amicable. Which begs the question was it purely a trial period….?
I suspect he didn’t have a bad budget, but did he spend any of it wisely, I think not on reflection. Given the inability to motivate the team for the final two months and the total collapse, I was very concerned what next season might bring, the omens weren’t good but I never thought for one minute Raj would act, but he did, for which I’m grateful, because next season was something I was dreading.
Lee’s ‘reign’ will be a quickly forgotten footnote, football’s littered with them.
Can we now have a nice experienced lower league manager with clear communication skills and the ability to motivate and drive a team because that’s what’s needed, preferably from outside the area, no more North East MOT failures looking for a last pay day please, that’s usually because they look down on the club. We need a fresh pair of eyes and new attitude who respects us for what we are, not what we were, that has to stop.

Well let's hope we get this but I won't hold my breath, already looks like once again it is going to be a long drawn out process, that will rumble long into pre season. I thought we learnt our last season with short time frames between seasons? If we do not appoint someone with experience or someone with at least a fair degree of success at some clubs, surely then a few will start pointing the fingers at raj.

How many will want to take this job on?, a guy that was worshipped couldn't wait to do a runner, can we really only attract a Boro academy manager and a Blyth Spartans sackee with dreadful records? Has to be reasons for a lot of these decisions. No more April 1st appointments this time raj please.

Have the club actually advertised the job or not. If so then quicker a decision is made the better. We could end up being in the same boat as last season if the appointment drags on and on well into next month.

Snowy,
Your latest article is I believe one of your best articles yet well thought out and I find it hard to understand why apart from banter you get involved in futile name calling to other posters and club personnel. I like you agree we need an older head at the top like when Danny Wilson came in and the difference he made ,no more first timers please. Can we please get a move on though as if it takes a month we will be on the same position as last year and the new season starts at the end of July.

snowy.."Can we now have a nice experienced lower league manager"

....just leave out the "nice" please.....

Yes leave out the nice - but totally agree with you Snowy ...

this appointment needs to be ideally sorted, within the next week id say to give us a fighting chance of offering the new contracts and releasing those we dont need. Plus getting plans in place and getting to familiarise yourself with the new club and other members of staff etc...

only thing nice at the club next season should be the biscuits.

snowy.."no more North East MOT failures looking for a last pay day please,"

...absolutely right...mind you always liked the morris minor..had one once..it was knackered like. .

Can we please put this to bed. Nobody drove him out.
He went for more money from a multi millionaire owner and a considerably smaller commute, simple as that. He slipped out the back door but appeared to want to be the victim. He wasn’t.
He may have been ‘worshipped’ by some, but the nature of his going tarnished it for me.
Any Pool’s fan must realise that if we get a great manager, we lose him, like nearly every other club at this level ………even IOR couldn’t keep Turner.

‘Futile name calling’ adds to a post as long as it’s not nasty, vindictive or dishonest…some people fail to see the humour of it and get the vapours over comments.
It depends a lot on who you associate with how you see things….From starting work I associated with some real ‘characters’ who’d had devastating experiences but could always see the funny side of things. Never see a bit of banter as a negative, I don’t .

Usually by now the retained list will have been released. So, who do you reckon is compiling that list? Not seen word that Nelson’s got the official push yet so is there going to be a mega announcement soon about the new manager, the retained list, inc. Nels, and even new owners judging by what’s being said on the ‘Rumours’ thread?

I can’t see how they can compile a retained list unless it was done a month ago and Lee put those cattle tags on the leavers ears…. Also, how can a new manager suddenly create one….I suspect it was made a few weeks ago.

It seems to me that when the players are self motivated under GL then we do well - cup runs for instance. when the game is routine or dour and the players need someone to either inspire them or frighten them there's nothing there.

He's a good guy and of course we wish his family well but ultimately the dressing room need to have a strict boss in charge not a mate.

I’ve had ‘bosses’ who were complete and utter bastards, but you knew where you stood. I always think respect and fear are never too far apart….but always found fear of not doing the job and the consequences a bigger motivator.

irrelevant.."the dressing room need to have a strict boss in charge not a mate."

..exactly right mr i...maybe that's one of the issues feaths found difficult to stomach..hence the bust up out on the pitch between him and bonehead at the newport game..and this is what was fed back to the pools hierarchy..bonehead had lost the dressing room essentially...had to go...no authority left..."they've accepted where they are"..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVn2tkxFOy4

very few indeed have the ability to be a mr. nice guy and get the best out of the whole workforce anywhere. too many lazy buggers around to take the piss as being nice equates to softness for some.

Was expecting by now a statement from Pools to say we down to the shortlist of candidates after the usual shitload of people applying for the job.
Maybe today or Friday

These things do drag on a bit regardless of who’s in charge.
I like the time between the ex manager walking out of the door marked EXIT and the new boss walking in though the door marked WELCOME to be as close possible.

do not see why this cannot happen now. if the clubs choice is holding out for a note a week extra, a better length of contract or a few more quid extra on the budget i doubt he,s the man anyway and plan B should be put in force.

I think Plan A has buggered us. Not signed on the dotted line and Raj is in panic mode again. Plan B is looking bad and the plan C is another untested
Manager with no experience guiding us stone cold
Bottom next season. Just a hunch

trouble is unless there is really good recruitment teams that end one season badly usually continue the same the following year. hope you are wrong and there is still time for a couple of scunthorpes to appear over the summer.

eiphos.."I think Plan A has buggered us."

..if no announcement monday i fear the worst...