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Lee clark must be due to apply again


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Is the new manager already appointed, ready to be announced, or will the tedious process of interviews and white smoke from the Vic be adhered to.
At this crucial time, an appointee ready to take the reins would be most advantageous.

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snowy.."an appointee ready to take the reins would be most advantageous."

..rumour has it its already in the bag..few dotting eyes and crossing tees...?


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If that were so, it would be most agreeable…..I think Charles Dickens has overtaken my body……
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snowy.."I think Charles Dickens has overtaken my body"

..yeah..happened to me plenty of times..usually later in the evening mind..speaking in many tongues ?


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The new manager gets the two best full backs in the league. That's an attraction.

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snowy.."I think Charles Dickens has overtaken my body"

..yeah..happened to me plenty of times..usually later in the evening mind..speaking in many tongues ?

I blame Nicholas Nickelby. :laugh:

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stomp.."Even money now! You could be right Rocker."

..bookies must think we are all loids.. :roll:




Troubled times Poolie1 ?? .. Us loids are here for u you matey .Rumblings,discontent..what's your problem joker?


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Waiting for tomorrow to see who’s faces are seen at the match.


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 Post subject: Re: New Manager.
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Ferguson signs new deal less than 24hrs after Lee is gone - i know this was already a done deal few days ago but sure does make for a rumour... maybe the players said... if he stays im off .... ya never know with this game these days.

Stockdale .... mmm again doesnt excite me - did terrible last season with Rochdale (but so did DC tbh with his previous employer before us.) Ill not hold my breath with this one but i do feel like Spikes replacement has the ink drying on the contract.


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thing is...remember.. getting rid wont come cheap...the 2 boneheads were on two and a half year deals ..according to that turnip head woody woodgate... mouthing off on borer radio last night about his "pal" getting a "horrific" heave- ho.....just hope there's still some money left in the kitty like..? :wink:


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I think the ‘Lee-Nelson Project’ six months down the line has been seen for what it was….... wishful thinking, the triumph of hope over ability.
The prospect of persevering for another two years doesn’t bear thinking about and the idea that ex player commentators can come out with terms like horrific is ridiculous…. an air crash is horrific, a lacklustre manager losing your job is unfortunate.
I get really pissed of with so called ‘experts’ commenting on the media over something they know absolutely nothing about in the context of our club.

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snowy.."I get really pissed of with so called ‘experts’ commenting on the media over something they know absolutely nothing about in the context of our club."

..lets face it...radio tees is just borer radio by another name..we are scruffs compared to them..an afterthought that they have to acknowledge...but would much prefer not to...boils my piss to hear them all last night..slagging off our club as somewhere "no one would want to work" because of whats happened to their bonehead pal..boils my piss..oh they also had that coxall arse licker on as well echoing the same theme..

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Sure it was put on here that the 1st 6 months of Lees 2.5 year contract was a probation period as in most jobs.
So maybe no compo to pay or some undisclosed settlement.
Anyhow we go onwards n hopefully upwards.


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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Sure it was put on here that the 1st 6 months of Lees 2.5 year contract was a probation period as in most jobs.
So maybe no compo to pay or some undisclosed settlement.
Anyhow we go onwards n hopefully upwards.

That would make a lot sense Mr Gloves, also if the 6 month probationary period was true, that would be a wise move.
You could even take a sabbatical from your job if your employer was that understanding to try your self at the next level. Just a thought.

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poolie1 wrote:

..lets face it...radio tees is just borer radio by another name..we are scruffs compared to them..an afterthought that they have to acknowledge...but would much prefer not to...boils my piss to hear them all last night..slagging off our club as somewhere "no one would want to work" because of whats happened to their bonehead pal..boils my piss..oh they also had that coxall arse licker on as well echoing the same theme..

rakxe rakxe

It’s always been that way, your relevance diminishes the further you are from the Riverside like ripples from a stone in a pond. Waving goodbye to Lee was like wounding one of theirs and boy do they not like that.
I always remember when Darlo and the Borers were both in Div 3 and Darlo were at home. Now as both teams were covered by BBC Radio Tees or what it was then called, you’d expect a bit of even handedness…. No fecking chance…. it was ALL Boro as though they were playing away in the bloody Midlands. Boro were their team v Darlingsomethingorother… it was quite frankly ignorant, disrespectful and cringeworthy.
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snowy..."You could even take a sabbatical from your job if your employer was that understanding to try your self at the next level. Just a thought."

..a good thought....especially if your employer is a multimillionaire who you are mates with and to whom your salary is just spare change...you watch him start back with the borer crew within the next few months....had his chance....fell well short....walked away quids in....and then back to his old job..my heart bleeds...it really does... :roll:


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That's 5 times in a decade HUFC has been the graveyard of an ex-Boro player's managerial ambitions - Colin Cooper, Craig Hignett (twice), Matty Bates and now Graeme Lee.

Best all round to give it a rest for a while - another 10 years, say.


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[quote="poolie1"]snowy.."I get really pissed of with so called ‘experts’ commenting on the media over something they know absolutely nothing about in the context of our club."

..lets face it...radio tees is just borer radio by another name..we are scruffs compared to them..an afterthought that they have to acknowledge...but would much prefer not to...boils my piss to hear them all last night..slagging off our club as somewhere "no one would want to work" because of whats happened to their bonehead pal..boils my piss..oh they also had that coxall arse licker on as well echoing the same theme..

rakxe rakxe[/quote]
Anybody with any idea of football who has witnessed the last 13 games will of known we were in huge trouble. No doubt about it we were going down as we were. No room for sentiment or trying out another recruitment period, the last recruitment looks like a total disaster, would we keep any of them? Notice few Stockport fans and other clubs chipped in saying well what do they expect on their budget, well it doesn't matter what budget you have the least you expect is effort and commitment.


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Love how stockshite supporters know Rajs backpocket better than he does.

The money is there. It has to be due to what we have achieved this season and with all the gates. Regardless of what Sage take. January is never a time to build a new team with new manager especially a one with no connections etc. wonder if the new recruitment guy sticks around then ?

Raj may have kept money back again and not given the full pot to Spike knowing he wasnt in the long term plans. Doubt we have as little cash as everyone seems to be making out


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We need a young manager with the guts to kick arse when needed and a point to prove he is going somewhere.


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Flying Hogans wrote:
That's 5 times in a decade HUFC has been the graveyard of an ex-Boro player's managerial ambitions - Colin Cooper, Craig Hignett (twice), Matty Bates and now Graeme Lee.

Best all round to give it a rest for a while - another 10 years, say.

It was a graveyard where they all dug their own graves.

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Davcla wrote:
We need a young manager with the guts to kick arse when needed and a point to prove he is going somewhere.


A few posters hanging out of Raj for sacking Lee.
He now has to take responsibility for our recent results and right the massive wrong he made a pointing them 2 cranks in the first place.
Major quick rebuild required to maintain our outstanding support.
Over to you Radgy rolf
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Davcla wrote:
We need a young manager with the guts to kick arse when needed and a point to prove he is going somewhere.

to get that it would either be an appointment of someone with no experiance or dipping into non league for someone with a couple of seasons under his belt who has overachieved with cut price players. quicker someone is found the better. longer it goes on we,ll be back of the line again to recruit players for next season and end up with whats left. please not stockdale though. rochdale are basically another pools. plenty of passing, pretty football on the day but at the wrong end of the table. this style does not work at our level and anyone with that philosophy should be kept away from the vic.


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Flying Hogans wrote:
That's 5 times in a decade HUFC has been the graveyard of an ex-Boro player's managerial ambitions - Colin Cooper, Craig Hignett (twice), Matty Bates and now Graeme Lee.

Best all round to give it a rest for a while - another 10 years, say.

not just managers but players as well. pools having a self imposed transfer embargo with the boro wouldn,t be that bad a thing either. all clubs tend to have dealings with certain clubs more than others but pools with boro has become more than stupid. its as if at times no other club exists.


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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Davcla wrote:
We need a young manager with the guts to kick arse when needed and a point to prove he is going somewhere.


A few posters hanging out of Raj for sacking Lee.
He now has to take responsibility for our recent results and right the massive wrong he made a pointing them 2 cranks in the first place.
Major quick rebuild required to maintain our outstanding support.
Over to you Radgy rolf
No doubt Morse Code Boy will disagree with me
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No one was complains about them until the Rotherham defeat, then they all seemed to give up in unison. I suspect the cup games were the spur and after going out the team were lost and this where a wise manager gets them fired up to carry on. I think Lee and Nelson took their hands off the joystick and let them slowly glide in to the end of the season…trouble is, there very marginally was…… like last season.
The management team obviously hadn’t got a clue what to do when they hit turbulence, OK when things are steaming but clueless when it mattered.
As for Raj, he hired them, he fired them, all chairman get it wrong sometimes and not many were expressing doubts at the time. Home is the hero eh, never works.

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gloves.."He now has to take responsibility for our recent results and right the massive wrong he made a pointing them 2 cranks in the first place."

..hes already started...i trust him to go on and finish the job..hes not a quitter...


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As for Raj, he hired them, he fired them, all chairman get it wrong sometimes and not many were expressing doubts at the time.


Sorry, loads of doubts were expressed at the time. You can remind yourself by having a look at the start of the 'Graeme lee' thread. Most fans were willing to give them a fair go, but it was an appointment that came right out of leftfield.


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Raj hired more goons that good managers at Darlo too, 1 in 5 in 3 years.
1 in 8 for you lot isn’t it?


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Flying Hogans wrote:
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As for Raj, he hired them, he fired them, all chairman get it wrong sometimes and not many were expressing doubts at the time.


Sorry, loads of doubts were expressed at the time. You can remind yourself by having a look at the start of the 'Graeme lee' thread. Most fans were willing to give them a fair go, but it was an appointment that came right out of leftfield.

If you look at that thread I expressed my doubts and been one of the biggest critics of his appointment, but even a majority on a message board is nothing, half a dozen doubters on a message board is hardly public opinion and plenty on here were welcoming his appointment and what the terraces thought kept very quiet even when the collapse began.

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Raj hired more goons that good managers at Darlo too, 1 in 5 in 3 years.
1 in 8 for you lot isn’t it?

He hired Challinor, no goon and the unfortunate Lee, now history.
The relevance is……?

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snowy..."The relevance is……?"

..only in his head..a sick mind..treatment clearly not working for his obsessional disorder...sad case that one stpid yawn1

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Snowy wrote:
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Raj hired more goons that good managers at Darlo too, 1 in 5 in 3 years.
1 in 8 for you lot isn’t it?

He hired Challinor, no goon and the unfortunate Lee, now history.
The relevance is……?


He’s hired far more than Challinor and Lee! The relevance is he is crap at picking managers more often than not.


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snowy..."The relevance is……?"

..only in his head..a sick mind..treatment clearly not working for his obsessional disorder...sad case that one stpid yawn1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cauWH5sNmaM


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Snowy wrote:
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Raj hired more goons that good managers at Darlo too, 1 in 5 in 3 years.
1 in 8 for you lot isn’t it?


The relevance is……?




Let me do a quick check with the Guinness book of Records snowy.


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Crack on Mr S :laugh:

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loan_star wrote:
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Raj hired more goons that good managers at Darlo too, 1 in 5 in 3 years.
1 in 8 for you lot isn’t it?

He hired Challinor, no goon and the unfortunate Lee, now history.
The relevance is……?


He’s hired far more than Challinor and Lee! The relevance is he is crap at picking managers more often than not.

We’ve had a whip round and arranged a two week stay at the Doris Gillibrand Retreat for a course of electro impulse therapy that should get the lights dimming in the locality when they wire you up. Raj phobia has been diagnosed so we’ll send you some grapes, but not the sour ones you’ve been treading to excess, you naughty boy. Y’know it makes sense.
Throw the lever nurse. :laugh:

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I suspect Raj isnt on his own picking a manager this time. There is 2 very good other board members to whom he will look too aswell. Then there is Hobin, again the COO with good footballing heritage behind him and no doubt some connections. Raj has to use all the powers that he has at his disposal and pick us the best of what is out there. Didnt we also appoint another director of football type of guy too ? He seemed to have good pedigree aswell if I remember rightly. Think his role was voluntary made permanent?


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I suspect Raj isnt on his own picking a manager this time. There is 2 very good other board members to whom he will look too aswell. Then there is Hobin, again the COO with good footballing heritage behind him and no doubt some connections. Raj has to use all the powers that he has at his disposal and pick us the best of what is out there. Didnt we also appoint another director of football type of guy too ? He seemed to have good pedigree aswell if I remember rightly. Think his role was voluntary made permanent?

I’ll swear some on here think Raj is sat like Blofeld in his underground HQ in a disused volcano under the Vic….. sat in a chair stroking his white cat, makes every single decision about everything at the Vic..absolute control.

Meanwhile, in the real world, he obviously makes the final decision but there’ll be plenty of input from those who profess to know more about the game than the Chairman.

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It's rare for a former Pools player to make a successful manager. Our best managers in recent years have been Neale Cooper, Danny Wilson and yes, Dave Challinor. The list of failures is very very long and their average tenure is an astonishing 243 days. That includes a shit load of caretaker periods. Only Challinor and Danny Wilson managed to get past the 2 year mark in the past 20 years. No wonder we aren't successful, it takes time to build a team.

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Flying Hogans wrote:
That's 5 times in a decade HUFC has been the graveyard of an ex-Boro player's managerial ambitions - Colin Cooper, Craig Hignett (twice), Matty Bates and now Graeme Lee.

Best all round to give it a rest for a while - another 10 years, say.


Id be over the moon to go down the x Boro regime in that Mowbray gets the Pools managers job.
Excellent candidate which has no bearing whatsoever on the above failures.
My sources telling me its a done deal along with the Takeover to be announced within the next 2 weeks. UTP.


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Id be over the moon to go down the x Boro regime in that Mowbray gets the Pools managers job.
Excellent candidate which has no bearing whatsoever on the above failures.
My sources telling me its a done deal along with the Takeover to be announced within the next 2 weeks. UTP.

Big two predictions there, not gonna come back and bite you on the arse is it Mr G ? :shock:

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interesting stats mr i..however..have to take issue with your numbers on chris turner..a win rate 28%?...second time round maybe..but not his first stint with us which was one of the best times ive ever had tbh....42%?...and his other win rates from wiki below..of course turner was not sacked and one of a few to move on to better things after his first stint..that maybe the answer to my own query tbh.... ?

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Leyton Orient 14.89%
Hartlepool United 42.27%
Sheffield Wednesday 30.21%
Stockport County 13.73%
Hartlepool United 28.40%
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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Flying Hogans wrote:
That's 5 times in a decade HUFC has been the graveyard of an ex-Boro player's managerial ambitions - Colin Cooper, Craig Hignett (twice), Matty Bates and now Graeme Lee.

Best all round to give it a rest for a while - another 10 years, say.


Id be over the moon to go down the x Boro regime in that Mowbray gets the Pools managers job.
Excellent candidate which has no bearing whatsoever on the above failures.
My sources telling me its a done deal along with the Takeover to be announced within the next 2 weeks. UTP.


Tony Mowbray has been managing one professional football club or another every year since 2004. He achieved his managerial ambitions yonks ago. He wouldn't join Pools without assurances that he'll be given the resources to achieve success, so if your sources are right, happy days.

I was talking about younger men with Boro connections trying their luck at Hartlepool as the first rung on the managerial ladder. That hasn't worked for either party.

But I shouldn't have lumped in Graeme Lee an ex-Boro player - he went there as a coach. Spike is one of our own, and it's a real shame it didn't work out for him.


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Snowy - the Blofeld connection is hilarious and certainly true haha !

The warm feeling i get about Mowbray is that... what has been said above, the finances and ambition sold to him must have to be some package in order for him to even consider us ? Maybe Mowbray sees us as his retirement project close to home - a manager like him needs time, especially at our level - but i think he could truely bring with him a true professional nature - type of guy who would have the backroom staff and workings of a championship outfit. It all these things that need to change and i think Hobin knows all this coming from Norwich - Raj is starting to see the level of detail needed to be successful at this level. This is new territory for him lets not forget. Mowbray would help Raj too i believe.
I would hope Pools will stop becoming a playground for the ex boro boyos to have a go at - i thought we turned this corner with DC - during his regime with no ex boro involved we had success. Yes i know Mowbray is ex boro but hes part of the old guard so to speak and hasnt been around the Boro in the same way as our failed predecessors have.


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Mr I - in relationship to managers not lasting more than two years I would think that applies to many clubs in the lower leagues and not much better in the higher.How many have Boro and Sunderland had lately? How many of the ex Pools who were sacked went on to be successful?


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jon..."How many of the ex Pools who were sacked went on to be successful?"

..good point..cant think of one..but would like to see some stats on that like... :laugh:


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darren ferguson might be worth a punt 25/1..didn't someone say raj and pally were seen at man utd recently??....pally must know the ferguson clan pretty well ??


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poolie1 wrote:
darren ferguson might be worth a punt 25/1..didn't someone say raj was seen at man utd with his pal pally recently....pally must know the ferguson clan pretty well ??

I’ve got a tenner on Massey Ferguson……..123,987,000,000,000,000,000,000,001 to 1

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