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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 3:45 pm 
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Each League two club get £472,000 basic pay from the EFL plus a payment of £430,000 from the premier league. Does anybody know when these payments are made?????

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derwent...."Each League two club get £472,000 basic pay from the EFL plus a payment of £430,000 from the premier league. Does anybody know when these payments are made?????"

..more to the point....how many data analysts can we get for that ?

https://resources.premierleague.com/pre ... United.pdf


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More to the point with these payments plus the extra gate monies plus the revenues from the two cup runs and transfer fees , compensation for Dave Challinor and from the Luca Murphy Deal also the extra sponsorship will then be well in the £1,000000. So Raj lets spend some money were needed on the team, also be honest and open with the supporters your customers or risk loosing them next season.


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essex..."1,000000..."

..ooooooowh...according to you sounds like we are rolling in it ?..how much of those zeros do think we will have to spend?....interested in your opinion ...all things being equal...and not knowing what liabilities and outgoings the club has at the mo... if you know what i mean? sctatchinghead


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Doesn’t this money go towards the dat to day running of the club,the boring but necessary stuff like the leccy bill….?
Surely it’s not there solely for players Monopoly money.

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£999,999 and I bet he pockets the rest.

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ed-t-ball wrote:
Newer comfy seats
New fencing for NWC
Top striker
Cultured midfielder
Nasty midfielder
Water chiller
Fast tricky winger with end product
Some kind off Sargent major type for some reason
New paint for railings
Big strong centre back with skills to bring the ball out from the back X 2.
Super fast bottom filling beer taps
Up to date ticket booking system mainframe
Another top striker
Pay off the long term debts
Fund the club for next season's promotion
Youth academy
Another top striker

£999,999 and I bet he pockets the rest.


Er, …..you missed out Uncle Tom Cobbley

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comrade ball..."Pay off the long term debts"

....errrrrrrrrrr....only one problem with that suggestion pal....will leave us nowt for the rest of your wish list.. silly idea...but maybe in keeping with a typical irresponsible labour style of financial mismanagement...

...who was it who left that note again..." sorry..spent it all ..no money left." ?.....in the news again i see today...shocking behaviour... :laugh:


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Rumours have it a state of the art turbo thrust bucket pie and pasty superheater is on order, it’s just doing it’s trials……. have you seen the price of pie warmers?

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 Post subject: Re: EFL payments
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Essex poolie wrote:
More to the point with these payments plus the extra gate monies plus the revenues from the two cup runs and transfer fees , compensation for Dave Challinor and from the Luca Murphy Deal also the extra sponsorship will then be well in the £1,000000. So Raj lets spend some money were needed on the team, also be honest and open with the supporters your customers or risk loosing them next season.


Don’t Pools have over a £2 million pound loan to Sage or some one similar ?


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 Post subject: Re: EFL payments
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There could be certain clauses within the repayment agreement that should the club manage to gain any extra pennies - then said extra cash goes the way of sage ? who knows... i wouldnt like to guess. Football clubs are a whole new world when it comes to business and turning a profit.

stark reality is that all the extra pennies we have gathered over the last season - probably wont all go into the playing budget. Again like others have stated... the club has other debtors and wages to pay. The reintroduction of the youth setup wont be cheap and id hate for us to be sacrificing the funds on that rather than signing 5 / 6 players we so desperately need just now ! Id imagine we may get some more clarity on say where the cup money is/has gone and maybe any transfer fees received from our outgoings - but the likelihood of us knowing about the compo from DC and the Luca Murphy ordeal is all but a lottery in which none of us have bought a ticket.


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If pools don't invest the money in the playing squad this summer their revenues for 23/24, 24/25 etc. will be significantly reduced in the National League.


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id say we are 4 League quality players short of staying out of trouble - regardless of the flapper.

but yes id agree


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 Post subject: Re: EFL payments
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des barnes 1952....."Don’t Pools have over a £2 million pound loan to Sage or some one similar ?"

..yep...names mr blackledge....owns sage investments ..i think he might be a tax exile living abroad like yourself ? :wink:


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eiphos...."There could be certain clauses within the repayment agreement that should the club manage to gain any extra pennies - then said extra cash goes the way of sage ?"

...pretty sure this has been mentioned on here before.....mr irrelevant i believe...maybe wrong ???


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 Post subject: Re: EFL payments
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We've still got a club.

All clubs have debts, like most of us. We don't know the terms of the debts that Raj took on and it is unlikely we'll ever learn them. Hopefully they're not onerus and there is an opportunity to invest a good amount in the playing squad.

If we do go down next season (and we've not even finished this one yet!), it will be very tough to get back again. We are unlikely to get the stars aligned twice. Approaching the player contract expiries will mean lots of opportunities to spin the signing wheel and hope we get some achievers in that keep us in League 2 again or better yet, closer to the play offs.

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 Post subject: Re: EFL payments
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eiphos..."The reintroduction of the youth setup wont be cheap"

...correct....and over 40 years...have we benefited from it much?....dont think we have even come close to recouping the costs involved...i know we get a wedge for running one..but dont think it has been worth it over the long term..we are better off letting our rich neighbours take the expense developing young players ..then we nab the best of the left overs they dont want at the end of their programmes..of which there are boat loads every year......a certain jamie sterry springs to mind...


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Most of the accrued income to go to pay off the debts of the previous owners. Funny how the EFL takes an interest at last in dodgy owners but Pools were almost sacrificed as a club. And wasn't there some clause that makes the club liable to pay further increments depending on what league they reached? If that was the case then getting out of the ex football league members league would have incurred an increment surely? What's left of the budget will be persuading existing players to sign on again for the wonderful fans but no extra money and then scour the lower leagues for the crumbs of signings. Happy to be proved wrong again. With no wins in almost a quarter of the season, things on the pitch haven't looked too promising have they? The seagull will renew its season ticket. Business as usual.


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2.0.."What's left of the budget will be persuading existing players to sign on again for the wonderful fans but no extra money and then scour the lower leagues for the crumbs of signings. Happy to be proved wrong again. With no wins in almost a quarter of the season, things on the pitch haven't looked too promising have they? The seagull will renew its season ticket.Business as usual."

...sad but all very true and highly likely imo...


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poolie1 wrote:
eiphos..."The reintroduction of the youth setup wont be cheap"

...correct....and over 40 years...have we benefited from it much?....dont think we have even come close to recouping the costs involved...i know we get a wedge for running one..but dont think it has been worth it over the long term..we are better off letting our rich neighbours take the expense developing young players ..then we nab the best of the left overs they dont want at the end of their programmes..of which there are boat loads every year......a certain jamie sterry springs to mind...



MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY ! agree again ... jeez twice in one day ha clappp - but yeh we havnt ever really produced say 5 first team players at once over say 3 seasons - wonder when the last time Pools fielded a team with say more than 2 home grown players on the pitch.

Callum Roberts is starting to flourish aswell - another let go with Sterrys age group i believe.

BUT... We need to do exactly that - make sure we are at the front of the queue when all these lads are getting let go. Sunderland and the Toon should be our new best mates - The Boro as good as they have been to us over the years need to take a back seat and us get very comfy with our very very wealthy Geordie Neighbours.


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poolie1 wrote:
eiphos..."The reintroduction of the youth setup wont be cheap"

...correct....and over 40 years...have we benefited from it much?....dont think we have even come close to recouping the costs involved...i know we get a wedge for running one..but dont think it has been worth it over the long term..we are better off letting our rich neighbours take the expense developing young players ..then we nab the best of the left overs they dont want at the end of their programmes..of which there are boat loads every year......a certain jamie sterry springs to mind...

I agree, spend the money looking for big club cast offs and truly promising non league players.

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Thought when Nelson joined it might as much been for his knowledge of the North Eastern non league teams and players. We can surely pick up some decent players from lower down the pyramid other teams do.


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Well he couldn’t do it at Blyth


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Just an afterthought what other teams have signed players from North East lower league teams?


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 Post subject: Re: EFL payments
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poolie1 wrote:
des barnes 1952....."Don’t Pools have over a £2 million pound loan to Sage or some one similar ?"

..yep...names mr blackledge....owns sage investments ..i think he might be a tax exile living abroad like yourself ? :wink:


No not a tax exile, I pay tax on my minute private pension, they encourage you take a private pension out tax relief etc then take it back of you when it’s paid out.


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des barnes 1952........."No not a tax exile, I pay tax on my minute private pension, they encourage you take a private pension out tax relief etc then take it back of you when it’s paid out"

..lifes so hard and unfair isnt it...being an ex pat...having to live away from your home town for tax purposes....the chew of having to pop back by plane every so often to keep hmrc happy...villa in a hot steamy place abroad somewhere with all those young fillies around you..nothing to do all day except soak up the sun...drink sangria..check out how pools are doing over the internet...and trying to work out from reading the finanncial times why the country has not exploded as you expected post brexit....boy....life is a bitch... :laugh:


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Essex poolie wrote:
More to the point with these payments plus the extra gate monies plus the revenues from the two cup runs and transfer fees , compensation for Dave Challinor and from the Luca Murphy Deal also the extra sponsorship will then be well in the £1,000000. So Raj lets spend some money were needed on the team, also be honest and open with the supporters your customers or risk loosing them next season.


Seems like Me You BillyPoolie n Eddie Kyle only question this then get a shitload of cranks Abuse.
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You must enjoy it or you wouldn’t do it. :laugh: Masochism, ……nah, never appealed to me.

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jon..."Just an afterthought what other teams have signed players from North East lower league teams?"

..err...think the dale signed some character called luke charman from those darlo loids recently...looks shite by his recent performance against us..think good old robbie stockers could be out soon over there...part of the old borer boys clique..think he is well in with our bonehead.... :roll:


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gloves.."Seems like Me You BillyPoolie n Eddie Kyle only question this then get a shitload of cranks Abuse."

..non comprende ?....please explain...wot is .."cranks abuse"...like...also.."shirt and tie burglary"...me non comprende mr gloves...? sctatchinghead


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Pooled - I know about Charman I believe he picked Rochdale over Pools but my point is how many are successful.


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poolie1 wrote:
gloves.."Seems like Me You BillyPoolie n Eddie Kyle only question this then get a shitload of cranks Abuse."

..non comprende ?....please explain...wot is .."cranks abuse"...like...also.."shirt and tie burglary"...me non comprende mr gloves...? sctatchinghead


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I agree, spend the money looking for big club cast offs and truly promising non league players.

you can forget the second catogary as pools have not been great in this area. the mighty accrington managed to unearth josh windass from harrogate railway a few seasons back. dion charles from southport and their present top scorer colby bishop from leamington. what real gems have pools recruited from similar clubs, ogle, carver and non leagues finest keeper mr.flapper himself. know luck has something in these signings that do come off but surely even pools cannot be that unlucky.


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id say our greatest non league signing of the last decade has to be Mr Sterry - how he was plying his trade for South Shields and then walks into the Pools team as one of the best players is beyond me but thank Christ for DCs willingness to give opportunity to such lads at the time. Again this cements my thoughts in having us first dibs on these sorts of players being thrown out of prem academy's like owld dish water. Bread an Butter for us these players and they more than thrive at this level.

Duckworth is another from Bradford PA - came into the side and after a season or so found his feet and was an asset to the side.

a suppose Ferguson came from none league York at the time we signed him so ill add his name to the list too.

cant think really of any other NL player we have had that has had real impact on the side and stood out ? Fenwick wasnt the man we all thought he would be but credit to him hes done better than Carver and came from a lower level.

I think anything lower than NLN and the players really do struggle at this level - be interesting to see how the front 2 do at the heed as they are more a less back in the National League now and they are flying at NLN level.


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Johnjo1 wrote:
Pooled - I know about Charman I believe he picked Rochdale over Pools but my point is how many are successful.




Don't tell poolie 1 he bagged 2 for Rochdale yesterday. :wink:


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Pooled - I know about Charman I believe he picked Rochdale over Pools but my point is how many are successful.




Don't tell poolie 1 he bagged 2 for Rochdale yesterday. :wink:

thats 2 more than bloody carver has scored or even look likely to score.


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There is indeed a clause that a proportion of unbudgeted revenue goes back to sage. I don't have the figure but I do know its a chunky percentage. Pools obviously get the league payments but a lump of the cup run money goes back to Blakeledge.


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thanks for that mr i..will copy and save it for future reference...


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Eiphos_3 wrote:
id say our greatest non league signing of the last decade has to be Mr Sterry - how he was plying his trade for South Shields and then walks into the Pools team as one of the best players is beyond me but thank Christ for DCs willingness to give opportunity to such lads at the time. Again this cements my thoughts in having us first dibs on these sorts of players being thrown out of prem academy's like owld dish water. Bread an Butter for us these players and they more than thrive at this level.

Duckworth is another from Bradford PA - came into the side and after a season or so found his feet and was an asset to the side.

a suppose Ferguson came from none league York at the time we signed him so ill add his name to the list too.

cant think really of any other NL player we have had that has had real impact on the side and stood out ? Fenwick wasnt the man we all thought he would be but credit to him hes done better than Carver and came from a lower level.

I think anything lower than NLN and the players really do struggle at this level - be interesting to see how the front 2 do at the heed as they are more a less back in the National League now and they are flying at NLN level.


Featherstone was plucked from Non League as well.


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