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All down to the chairman. Won't spend money on anything to do with the team, we are getting what we deserve now.

Pathetic end of term stuff. They're already on Holiday.

Has Lee lost the dressing room and was his appointment a mistake???

I’ll say it. It’s worrying. Worrying for next season too. In’s and out’s have been odd. Distinct lack of intensity across the last 8 or so matches. It simply wouldn’t have sat with DC and I know he’s history etc etc but I’m comparing them like for like and the standards have dropped.

Instead of Nelson we should of had an older experienced assistant to help Lee find his feet. The way things are going none of the better players will re-sign up and then Sterrys
contract will be allowed to run down and we will loose him for nothing . With all the extra money this season from extra crowds, cup runs and sponsorship we could be set up for asset stripping.

We need a Sergeant Major of the bastard variety…because a bit of self discipline, purpose and self belief needs drilling into them and the so called coaching staff as well.
We’re on the road to nowhere.

Carver
Bogle
Lee
Nelson
Contracted on cheapish contracts for the next 2 seasons.
Like i said last month Payroll majorly reduced since February once we cudent go down.
Lees Article in the Mail last week that the club wont overpay new signings.
Despite the excellent cup runs n huge crowds looks like the good xtra cash this season isent goin back on the pitch.
Disillusioned and not the only Poolie.

so bryn out injured ??...wot....again??...shame....still.... i hear he's working on that duff leg of his...and will be fit and raring to go for next season...along with crock boy cook.....off the pitch issues ?......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFLagfhelzw

at least feaths scan results are back.....and not as bad as we thought...mmmmmmmm.....and...from 03.20....."i'm sure the character that he is .......he will be banging on the managers door to be involved next week "....off the pitch issues?...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou6uTJVtYD0

Looking forward to the last episode of the first series in a couple of weeks time.

even her indoors after listening to nelson said that he must be the most uninspiring bloke she has ever heard. he must be bad as she,s been with me 19 years.

accrington..."even her indoors after listening to nelson said that he must be the most uninspiring bloke she has ever heard. he must be bad as she,s been with me 19 years"

...."uninspiring"?? ....nels arriving for his job interview at the vic....come in....sit down.....but still got the job.......thats mates for ya.... ??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nur4g4r1LN4

The last 10 games tells the story,

In the form table 23 out of 24 with only the relegated Scunny below.

1 win, 3 draws & 6 defeats with 7 goals for & 17 against, says it all

I am in total agreement with the above.

Very few buy into a football club without the desire to MAKE MONEY.
A minority have vanity projects and put money into clubs but it goes without saying that Raj is certainly not one of them!

By hook or by crook we are achieving what most would have settled for at the start of the season, namely a lowly league position but avoiding relegation. Without a significant increase in the playing side budget I fear that the unthinkable could happen next season. It is down to Raj!

Raj has done a lot of good, but if fans can't see over the last year what's happening they never will. Penny pinched with the best manager we had in years, he left first chance he got, backroom staff leave first chance they get. Armstrong and oates go to clubs half the size of us. Then we con the fans into thinking were building a team, yes on loanees where other clubs cover the wages, while we destroy a great team we had. Pick the cheap option as manager and assistant, that's working well now who's records were nothing short of embarrassing when they got the job.

Time for the club to wake the f up 5500 we were pulling in on the basis we fought for everything nowt much else, signings were mediocre but fans backed them. This ain't good enough for a club our size.

I dread what’s going to be brought in during the close season, I could be wrong but I’m concerned.
I get the feeling there’s no demarcation line between management and playing staff. I suspect we’ve adopted the academy/casual approach where management and players are just one group and all too chummy for my liking.
Managers manage and players play.

If someone said we will stay up next season we would snatch their hands off. That's how bad we look now. The warning signs are there for all to see .

https://youtu.be/wMUDCudM7Ps

This my friends is a proper football MANAGER. We should have done everything within our power to retain this man, who polished a turd at many times and expected the highest standards at all times. He motivates his players, unlike Nelson and Lee who claim they don’t need to motivate them….

Lee and Nelson a bit like the Scott and Agnew appointment and we all knew how that ended up with their signings.

Give it a rest, once his home area started calling, he was going no matter how much he was offered because his millionaire owner could outbid us every time on top of family and home ties too.
We need a manager, there I’ve said it, but Challinor is in the history books now so look elsewhere I and move on.

Scotty and co were not wanted before they even got the job and it was a disaster in all sorts of ways, with most fans happy to see them finally sail off into the sunset.
The joke about Scotty was that ….the fans were right behind him, but lost him at the A19.

How I see it. This run of form is classic relegation form, to go into an end of season run as dire as this does not bode well. Lee should be furious but appears emotion free while his players basically f@#k about half heartedly on the pitch like it’s all just a tiresome business they can’t be arsed with. If you end a season like this, you’d better be getting rid of most of the squad because after such a protracted run of banal football it gets carried over into the following season, they then have the habit of playing no consequence football.
There’s an atmosphere of insidious slackness about the management and squad that’s emerging and all these things come from the top down and have eaten into the structure.
I feel we’ve got a chumocracy on the managerial side and it’s incapable of making the transition to league football demands.
Our management team appear to have fallen asleep at the wheel.

on the positive side its more or less the same players and management team that got us safe in the league and one penalty miss from a wembley final. really at that point the season was over. most were quite happy with the appointments possibly because they were ex players. then we have the possibility of another crock being with us next season and this for me is where the fans started to turn on top of underperforming players. if lee and nelson are not big motivators then the only chance we will have next season is bringing in lads who do not need motivating who will run through a brick wall for themselves if not for the club. a few like this in the side might get the others to follow, at the moment we do not seem to have big figures in the club who will not take to slackers along side them. just cannot see a training ground bust up with our current lot as the whole thing feels all pally pally.

If Lee and Nelson aren’t motivators at this level they’re in the wrong. Academy attitudes will get us nowhere.

I think the both of them will get half a dozen games to try and pull things round next season, Raj Singh has been in the past quick to pull the trigger. It appears Sweeney never appears to get involved now.

My ideal would be Tony Sweeney alongside an experienced manager…. The present arrangement was sold as two popular players coming back by their advocates, only flaw being that popular players does not equate to successful managersWe we’re sold a dream team managerial option, I had my doubts then and not changed my mind, their body language and general behaviour during interviews leaves me cold.

anyone know if we have replaced jake simpson yet ?.....everything seems to have gone tits up since he left......who is monitoring the teams performance stats now ?.... nels keeps referring to them during interviews when defending the accusations the team are "on the beach."....maybe nels is looking at the stats... but has them upside down ?....wonder could frankie from the borer be interested in the job ?....nah...maybe not one of the borer "lads"....

https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/foo ... e-16980703

https://www.stockportcounty.com/simpson ... oom-staff/

snowy...."their body language and general behaviour during interviews leaves me cold."

..imagine having to listen to it day in day out......not for just a few minutes on a video clip.....wonder if the players feel the same way? ...maybe they have had a bellyful?..... like the rest of us....these two boneheads make that bloody not a full shilling craig harrison sound like einstein........players on the beach?...nah... think it runs a bit deeper than that....

"Lost the dressing room or Losing the dressing room is a term that is used not only in football but all in other sports. It is a situation when the players lost their trust and belief to the manager of the team. The players also don’t pay attention to him. Because the manager has lost the confidence of the players on the team, he is also on the verge of losing his job. Often, the manager is sacked in case he reached this scenario."

"There are various reasons why a manager reaches this unwanted scenario. It could be due to consecutive losses in the game. Players can also determine poor tactics during the game. Players might receive unfair treatment from the managers. Others include over management and mind games. No matter what the reason is, players aren’t respecting the manager anymore. In some scenarios, they don’t follow instructions anymore."

"When a manager has lost the grip of his players, there are visible signs of this. It includes slacking off, ignoring the game plan and the worst part is quitting the team. This is also noticeable when players are not intense in the game. Unfortunately, players don’t believe in the leadership of their manager. It includes the system and overall plan. The team’s star players often go to the media for a rally against their manager in the hopes of getting him fired."

https://www.sportspundit.com/football/ter ... ssing-room

..other visible signs ?...

....players queuing up asking the manager to release them early from their contracts...some are told yes ok....but others no way....one starts to cry and complains to directors...another goes off sick on st paddys day to force the issue...then hints at "off the pitch issues" as a reason for him leaving in a farewell message to fans...

....a manager having a bust up with his captain out on the pitch... in full view of everyone...and other players having to get involved...then the captain gets dropped for a crock .....who is best pals with the manager and only half fit....then the captain goes off "injured" for the first time in 7 years...

....a manager is asked during interviews why his players seem to have "thrown in the towel"....he just shrugs his shoulders.... shakes his head ..nips his ear...picks at something in his teeth..is continually distracted by whoever is passing ...and in a cant be arsed matter of fact way says...look ive told them its just not enjoyable...no one is going to enjoy that...

.......work it out..?

We went down this Boro route once before and it was a complete disaster. It's starting to creep back into us.

We just have to hope Lee & co pull a rabbit out the hat next season, make some decent signings, Lee hasn’t a distraction I don’t want to mention as it’s family related.

I have serious doubts about that, that said, I’m happy to be proved wrong, but………….

We need to give Lee a Summer to get his squad together. We went 8 league games unbeaten between January and February which is good going for someone who people think doesn’t have a clue. He hasn’t been there for the last 2 defeats so hard to blame him for that. The players mentality has changed since we knew we were safe which maybe Lee should have sorted out but we have also played promotion chasing teams save for Rochdale so it was always going to be a hard end to the season. Injuries and fatigue hasn’t helped of course.

The reference to the player’s mentality changing is irrelevant. I’d expect any team to have consistent standards, accepting lax performances over a prolonged period sets a poor example and gives little credit to the coaching staff. We aren’t the only team with ‘injuries and fatigue’.
Don’t forget, there’s fans who’ve paid good money to see their team compete, part of football is also the entertainment element of any sport.
Our recent form is abysmal by any standards,I isn’t all about the players.
It’s no good bigging up past results while making excuses for a string of diagonally opposite poor ones.

This ‘squad’ will indeed be interesting.

porter....."He hasn’t been there for the last 2 defeats so hard to blame him for that"

...are you for real?...who do you think picked the team...who decided to bring back fela...who decided to continue with a flapping keeper...who is on the phone to his bonehead mate directing operations via his laptop during the game...so he cant be blamed ?...yep...as you said about the geek..we are so so "lucky" in so many ways...

We’re lucky that we still have a club. We’d be supporting Hartlepool 1908 FC playing against Stockton and Marske if Raj hadn’t have stepped in. If we are struggling next season then I’ll join you with the ‘Graeme Lee out’ chants but for now I think he deserves a proper chance.

porter....."We’re lucky that we still have a club. We’d be supporting Hartlepool 1908 FC playing against Stockton and Marske if Raj hadn’t have stepped in"

...think you are getting a bit confused pal...maybe mixing me up with someone else?...totally agree about raj.....the true messiah in my book...but we all make mistakes....unfortunately afraid we have a couple of boneheads in charge....sooner they're gone the better...allowing them and the geek to put together the squad for next season is only going to prolong the agony for us all..

Whoa, no one is criticising Raj, so drop that one. He doesn’t pick the team.

Even those leaving next season should manage to play at a high intensity next weekend. For the fans who have adored them during the highs, it’s time to give it one last effort and get the win the huge travelling fans deserve. If you can’t be motivated to play for that on a big occasion, you are fooked.

We are all grateful for raj stepping in. But for how many years do we use the excuse we still have a football club? When it's obvious to most that we have a managerial pair at the moment unable to motivate players? If they can't motivate players now, is their any point playing pre season games? We be lucky if they turn up at this rate.

Raj has never shown any tolerance of non performing managers, so when he sees the impact current performances have on season ticket sales his patience might recede a notch or two.
When he watches current performances and at the same time is being asked to shell out more cash to players the manager wants to keep but who appear to have given up, whilst the revenue needed to back up these rises is likely not to be forthcoming, he is very likely to be saying why should I pay more when my management team can't or won't find a way to motivate these people who think they are worthy of a bigger pay packet.
I reckon there will be a few ultimatums flying about shortly, if they haven't been activated already.
Raj won't put up with or condone what is appearing in front of his eyes and quite frankly neither would I.

billygoat.....""When it's obvious to most that we have a managerial pair at the moment unable to motivate players"?

... but its not just about motivation is it....its about a boat load of other things...its about man management decision making and organisation..
....we are all over the place in terms of our game plans...the team is disorganised....we are bordering on useless at both ends of the pitch....unable to deal with basics such as clearing crosses into our box..
....and unable to create clear goal scoring opportunities for the front two ....who wander around in desperation looking for the ball... or falling on their arses..
...there is no established pattern to our play except to play tippy tappy football up and down and in nice triangles from one side the middle of the park to the other...
....we have been relying on worldies from mols to keep us afloat...
....at the other end the flapper gets worse each game... rooted to his line and frightened to come out and get hurt catching a cross....occasionally he has a rush of blood and runs out of the box to try and clear a ball he should be nowhere near... and fks it up...yet he keeps his place despite us having a credible looking alternative..
...why are players like morris smith fela and crock boy cook even being given a look in? ...when we have allowed exits for players like holohan cullen hendrie and ZFA.... feaths will be next...we were told we had plenty of cover..now we cant even fill the bench...
....the whole thing is a mess....
...and the same old banal cliches and excuses are used week in week out by the two boneheads..lack of intensity...invited the press...didnt win first or second balls...didnt mix it up...not quick enough with transitions...didnt get into the right areas...games are won and lost in both boxes...have to be more clinical... didnt put the hard work in...blah blah blah..the only thing that changes is the order in which the boneheads dish them out...
...no change ?...then expect more of the same....the idea that the boneheads and the geek will turn this around over the summer is a recipe for us to have a season to remember next season..for all the wrong reasons...

There’s a football managers thesaurus that let’s them build up short gobbledygook sentences to impress the attentive gullible supporter and irritate the sensible supporter, available only to those with an FA Coaching badge, apparently it makes them look clever.
The post match mumble fest is beginning to look like the story of the King’s new clothes, everyone can see what the problem is but no one wants to state the obvious.

Do you not think raj has no part to play in this though? He picked this cheap option. He is the one cashing in on anyone decent and then getting us Boro loanees Rotherham loanees, Newcastle loanees who aren't good enough but we will persevere with it because they only pay a tiny percentage of the wage. We get told every transfer window their is money available and yet we got rid of virtually a whole team over a few months to bring in loanees to sit on the bench, a 10k player from Southport and a lad from Doncaster that 3 different managers wanted shot of him.

I got won over by Lee when things were going decent but Jesus these last 10 games have been horrific, no doubt about it if this continues we will go down next season. The forward line is a joke now, very little effort or quality, If holohan isn't better than this lot in midfield then I give up on football.

The Angol transfer 10 games before the end of the season though was no more than a sick joke, to go and not play elsewhere while we can't fill a bench.

This isnt all the managerial duos doing, but the least they can do is motivate them, this would never of happened under Challinor and his results were pathetic away at the start of the season, now we're pathetic at home to.

The players who have left will be down to the coaching staff’s decisions…not needed on voyage….voyage of the damned I expect…or more likely the Poseidon adventure.

lots of the excuse makers and happy clappers will always bring this up. pools are not that unique of being a club who were close to folding and then got their house in order. we need to look into the future more than the past. as for this motovation issue, well if we have a squad that needs total motovation every single game to put on a decent performance then quicker they leave the better. 20 lads busting a gut to get a game and make sure they keep the shirt is the top priority. self motivation is something we all have but varies from person to person. some of our current squad if at the moment they are not fixed up even verbally next season, will have a problem finding anywhere at a decent standard. doubt anyone wants a slacker in the side who could infect the whole club. lee and nelson may not be everyones first choices but neither are some of the current squad.

I’d like to see the players dreading going into the dressing room after any sort of sub standard performance. Dunno what’s happens now, are they fanned with a fresh lettuce to the sound of the Choir Celestial to ease their stress and fatigue…?

We need a clear out - players managers the lot - Raj can stay unless he wants to sell the club to the Saudis.

a hard bugger with a notorious attitude towards winning where nothing else matters is needed - not going to be a pretty next season if these 2 stay in charge.

But in all honesty we really are a worse side than we walked into this division as less than a year ago. The skimming of the playing staff to then result in us calling back a loanee and still been unable to fully populate a bench on match day is shocking ! Kings Lynn could at least field a full team including the subs. Like ive said many times - the club still isnt where it needs to be as a full time professional club plying its trade in the League ! There is too many small things that still need to be rectified.

To be fair - the minute our season effectively finished in regards going up or down - it could be they've cut the cloth to make next season's budget a bit stronger by saving on the wages of players who weren't going to be here anyway? Raj himself said the Angol move was with a healthy sum attached to it in regards to letting him go there, so good business?

On the face of it (and nobody was complaining at the time) the signings of Carver, Bogle, White & Hull were deemed a success. It was all going so well. Now Lee has a threadbare squad, it's not even as if he can make wholesale changes - play the reserves or worse 'the kids' - because that currently doesn't exist for him. What else can he do on Sat rather than play the same best case 11 he has available to him........

Next season looks like going to sea in choppy waters then finding the skipper and first officer in charge of the 85,000 ton gas carrier’s only previous experience on a ship, was on the Norfolk Broads.