This makes sense.

Overall I think it's been a great season when you consider the quick turnaround,the new manager and a big overhaul of players. Some people seem to ignore those facts along with the fatigue some players must be feeling. Yes it's playing football for a living but having two weeks off in 2 years will obviously affect some of the players and they look jaded. Add to that players like Bogle and Morris who haven't played much this season until they joined us. A break, a good pre season and hopefully some decent recruitment and we can judge better then.

In relative terms, given everything that’s happened, it has been a good season….but now is the time to start preparing for the next season.

As this is the rumours thread, there’s a rumour on the other board that season tickets are going to be £400. I can’t believe that will be right but if it is, we won’t be selling many.

To put that into context, that’s less than two months of my leccy bill payments …Crazy world.

Season tickets are going up but I heard it was just a slight rise. I'd be shocked if they thought 400 was going to attract many to buy them.

Fans have short memories. Since the trophy defeat against rotherham pools performances at the vic have been at the best forgettable. The team needs to end the season with a bang at the vic to persuade the undecided to part with their money.

The worm on the line is who you sign for next season. Fans are criminally optimistic and will write off a bad season as soon as it ends and hope for ….’blue sky’s around the corner’.
In fact we’re so gullible we shouldn’t be allowed access to money.

Very true I've told myself I won't be buying one until I see half decent signings, then once the summer hits I will think back to the cup runs and once we have signed one or two kids who have never played a league game I will believe we can win the league by 20 points again.

It would be nice to go into next season with the buzz of last year, even if it was slightly tainted by Armstrong and oates going to different clubs.

yes, the sight of the new signing in his sparkling new kit and his pools scarf round his neck saying the same old interview crap where after the club describes him he sounds like a cross between ronaldo and messi and every word is believed by some fans.

If this season had ended a few weeks ago we might have had the buzz of this season still in our thoughts. The last few games and the possibility of similar results up till the seasons end have tainted it somewhat.

Come on, we do it every time, it’s June, the sun’s shining, everything’s grand and we sign a few ‘utility’ players and your imagination goes into ‘Poolyworld’ mode (a bit like the Magic Roundabout but football themed) and suddenly you’re pulling on the leash to buy your season ticket frothing at the mouth to storm the beaches of Div2 in August, there’s no holding you back.
I’ll swear that fanciful reports of exposure to Biffo gas seeping from the ground in the Vic have altered the true perception of reality for all of us who ever attended a match there.

Could be the reason we all go into victor meldrew mode once we get home in september. Raj is a yorkshire man in disguise, lee should be back coaching kids, new players are shit even though they are better than many in the past where only their good average performances are remembered. At times i wish i,d gone to dance school instead of going to the vic with my old man. I,m sure i would not be on blood pressure tablets that i have been on since about the time of the mellenium stadium fiasco.

Dance school Mr A ….why do I visualise a horse stamping out numbers with it’s hoof!

I'm not sure it's the results as such it's the way we look so pedestrian and don't look like we will score if we played all week that's killed it off. We should really be playing with a freedom now. It's concerning how poor we now look.

I don’t know if it’s me, but apart from one or two players they all look very anonymous and much of a muchness, no one stands out, no characters just a machine that sometimes functions. All very odd.

I understand and respect both opinions but will pass judgement on this matter about a week before the season starts.
Cant see next season being anutha mediocre mid table finish.
Will either be good or bad depending on the ambitions of the hierarchy.
Piss poor division lets take advantage of it with a reasonable amount of this seasons unexpected xtra revenues.
UTP.

yes, a big bloody carthorse as well.

agree on how next season may pan out. do not think it will depend on ambition but more of how good or bad recruitment will be and if a team is assembled rather than 11 individuals on the pitch. always remember that apart from the extra gate revenue the money from the cups could be a one off with quick exits from all 3 happening next season. another question is what the club does with this extra un budgetted income. keep for future long term ground improvements or splash it on players who could be crap and its wasted.

I can’t even reach the horse counting standard , I hate dancing, never liked it. What’s the point?

accrington...."another question is what the club does with this extra un budgetted income."

..how much of this income... and what we might get from the sterry sale...do you think the club is forced to pay to mr blackledge and sage in debt repayments... and what will we be left with if anything ?

Nelson in charge today, Lee tested positive for Covid, it will be interesting to see if he takes his hands out of his trackie bottoms.

Looks like another big blow to potential ST sales.
These players who are holding out on our contract offers to them, and GL says they are good offers, to see what turns up during the close season ought to be given a deadline. Sign up or find another club. No player is bigger than the club. They either want to continue playing for us or they don't. Make yer mind up time.

Nelson had nothing to say and also only made a sub after we conceded barrage after barrage of attack. As an auditon… poor.

As for the out of Contracts, let us know if they are staying, if they aren’t don’t play them again and let’s get cracking for next year. UTP

We wouldn't have a team to field if we didn't play players out of contract.

Totally correct because the payroll on n off the pitch was reduced big time from August to what it is now.
Not a problem IF the xtra revenues from this season get reinvested baxk into the team even tho we owe a long time debt to Blackledge.
Surely we can upgrade the recruitment to go for promotion next season.
Its a dodgy situation were which is priority.
IMO.
The quicker we get to league One the quicker we reduce the debt.

Nelson said we had a good January window bring in some quality. I’m scratching my head obviously just my opinion but he signed two young midfielders who struggle at this level, a boy wonder who has yet to make it at numerous clubs and two strikers who just lets say have been disappointing.

I think it is about time the terms of the clearing of the debt to Blackledge were revealed. This would stop people speculating about how much unbudgeted revenue was committed to reducing the debt.
After all it is something which concerns everybody with any interest in the club.
It is not in Blackledge's interest to have the club financially hog tied because that would put his interest in danger. We need to be allowed to invest at least part of our good fortune in making the club more stable as that also makes his chances of regaining his investment more secure.
So come on spit it out so we all know where we stand.

derwent..."It is not in Blackledge's interest to have the club financially hog tied because that would put his interest in danger"

..happy to be corrected...but believe as long as the club doesnt fold he will get his money in staged payments by 2031 ?.....in that sense his "interest" is secure...if we struggle every season between now and then.. but remain a league 2 club... cant see he would be that bothered....but would like to know how much of the sterry sale he will get..

https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/d ... ure-306100

Where’s Sterry going poolie1?

Yes. We need facts, not rumour. Where has this come from? Who are you speaking to? Where is Snowy when you need him?

just cant wait to hear who our new head of recruitment is...presumably yet another of the spikes mates ...given spike has said he lives near him and will be popping round to his house for discussions late into the night...someone must know who he is ?....cannot understand all this cloak and dagger stuff around him having to work his notice..dont see why that should mean it cant be announced.....think he is going to have some job on his hands whoever it is...

imp..."Yes. We need facts, not rumours"

...read the heading of the thread....sterry sale?...just a rumour...dont like to dress rumours up as fact unlike your good self....its a bit like feaths fall out with the spike..and gavs reference to "off the pitch issues"...just rumour nothing more...and as sterry is the only saleable asset we have... not surprising really..if we dont sell him now we will get nowt come the end of next season...nowt ...just like mols and fergie...

Where did Gav reference off field issues?

dog..."Where did Gav reference off field issues?"

https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport ... pool-exit/

I imagine that’s something within his contract re playing games that extend his deal.

I don’t like to slag individual players off but I see no sense in signing Fletcher - who for me looks bang average - and letting a goal scoring midfielder in Holohan go mid season.

White is a good footballer for sure. Thought we missed Featherstone today. Just completely dumbfounded by that second half today…

dog..."I imagine that’s something within his contract re playing games that extend his deal."

...you have some imagination ...my guess would be he was referencing other "issues"...as usual billys contract gives a fair analysis....

https://www.monkeybizz.net/

Snowy is watching you, like ‘Big Brother’…. Yes we do need facts not rumours, glad you agree at last.

these loanee kids are always a big gamble and it seems if pools do not sign them only injury prone and unfit replacements are available. white came with a good reputation but really shows a couple of flashes of it in games. think its about time fans forget the gav situation. he was hardly having a good season and ended up hardly used off the bench by both managers at the end. for me he is back to the level where he,ll prosper.

According to the latest accounts released on companies house (which have not been audited by an accountant, as per Mr Singh's request) as of 2020, HUFC owed Sage Investments Limited £1,397,181.

Interestingly, Clarence 18 who are owned by Prestige/Mr. Singh have loaned the club over £2,000,000.

But what alternative scenario do you envisage as you appear to have access to ‘selected’ parts of the accounts.
I suspect that unless the unicorn with the benevolent sugar daddy appears, we are where we are, unless you have a better option available.

In hindsight, Morris had a pretty strong first 45 and then for whatever reason we saw quite possibly the worst standalone 45 mins for the past two years from the team - and he was a part of that.

Nelson claims there were players out there 'playing for contracts at other clubs'. Ferguson for me once again consistently stands out as a top class full-back. If he ends up at a rival in League 2 we've 100% lost one of the top 3 LB's in the division.

Will we see Featherstone, Sterry and Odusina in a Pools shirt again? Especially the final two in that trio, i'm not so sure...

Wheels have come off indefinitely the last 2 games, also it is relegation form which i hope doesnt carry over into next season. But look at it like this... some of the lads have one eye on elsewhere and also some just wanting it all to finish and have some time off. Alot of the lads are gassed, Crawford and Grey are 2 suffering badly from this.

Feaths looks a weird scenario, i honestly cant see him being here next season. Wouldnt surprise me if Grimsby got him aswell. (he is local to that area also). Odusina will be away and looks like Fergie too. Mols might be the only one we keep by the rumblings im hearing. Sterry may shock us all aswell and get a big move away also. If the recruitment isnt right in the summer and we dont replace for better or equal then sure as shit we go back down. The league is going to become much stronger next year -Plus the likes of Crawley throwing cash about aswell as Salfords big plan to push on. We may find ourselves doing a Barrow.

Getting a Goal keeper and a solid replacement for Liddle is priority - Pools will no doubt dip into the loan market again but i just hope we dont have a team built around a few 19/20 year olds with hardly any mens football experience. Carver needs to go out on loan for 6 months aswell and sharpen his tools as atm hes a waste of a wage !

Morris would be a good signing for us - hes showed what he can do when he plays (albeit he stays fit). IF we loose feaths then someone of his quality is needed in the centre of the pitch. A change in formation built around the right sort of midfield wouldnt go a miss as this season we have tried to build it around a front 3 due to lack of striking options. Unless we sign 2 quality fast front men then something needs to give.

its really all down to summer recruitment and our faith in it. no excuses like last season can be made this time around. there will be hundreds of players looking for clubs with no reason pools cannot pick some decent ones up with competative wage and contract offers. main 3 attributes i want to see is size, strength and pace. three things the present side lacks in certain positions.

We need to pick up players who have been at clubs at a higher level who have fallen from grace but who still they have something to prove. Odusina, Molyneux, Sterry and Ferguson are examples of this. I suppose Bogle and Morris could also turn out that way if they improve their match and/or physical fitness levels. Featherstone started with Hull. Humphreys with Sheff Wed etc etc.
Loanees need to be of the calibre of Armstrong and Burey.
I know it is not easy but we have to set standards and stick to them.
The goalie on loan from Huddersfield and Hull from Rotherham could be given more game time as potentially further loanees for next season. Both apparently have shown good attitude in training without really been given a chance. They both look promising. A run of game time won't do them any harm and surely they'll be itching to impress.

These would be big games for these two lads and not just a seeing the season or contract out as it is for the others. It may not be a big comlement but both did not look out of place or struggled last friday afternoon.

Players who are out of contract in the summer will be off I reckon. Unfortunately this will includede Ferguson, Mols and Timi.

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Hardly a waste of a wage! He does his best and plays most games now. The problem is he is what he is. The Stats showed he was a decent 28 year old Conference North player. At 28 the odds are you aren't going to improve, he looks like that when he plays, sending him for 6 month loans are not going to make him a League 2 player. At least he puts his effort in and tries hard, that's all we can ask.

The question has to be why we let go Cullen, Olomola and even Fondop who all have the stats and in the first 2 cases the effort at the club to be better. Obviously Cullen and Fondop are now out with injury sadly but it was an odd choice at the time.

smallhead...."The question has to be why we let go Cullen, Olomola and even Fondop"...

...fela.....answer below..........
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/olufela ... ler/356569

...fondo......answer below.........
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KXU72KmtpY

...cullen.....off the pitch issues ?