Ha ha what a load of bollocks that document is, maybe they should change the heading to "Law amongst thieves"?

Surely nobody is ever surprised when it comes to politicians. Like I've said on numerous occasions it's all very well screaming for them to resign but all that happens is they are replaced by another politician.
Years ago I decided to accept that they are no different to the rest of us and that I would judge them on their performance not their behaviour.
They've fiddled expenses( stole from the public purse), shagged when opportunity presented itself (ask John Major and Edwina Currie), been economical with the truth ( lied through their teeth) as examples of their behaviour but the only one that made me get angry was the expense fiddling, although I've done that myself.
Saying I've succumbed to the offer of a shag would be telling but I can honestly tell you all that I've never lied in my life .

derwent..."shagged when opportunity presented itself (ask John Major and Edwina Currie]"

...honest john...has there ever been a bigger smug hypocrite in the history of politics ?..back to basics ...yeah......and hes still dishing it out....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... itics.html

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2002/sep ... s.politics

This shower of shit seemed to have thrown out the rule book.
Its just an English version of Trumpism.
I am sure though our MP Jill Mortimer is clear of any party going allegations as shes hardly there and cant be accused of lying as she says nothing unless Ben Houchen is riding shotgun for her.
This town does not have a good history of effective MPs of either shade tbh.

The Tories were on a hiding to nothing for the local government elections anyway, but they'll get a massive chasing now. Then the knives really will be out. Wonder if Johnson will get away with chucking Sunak under the bus?

How come Starmer never got pulled in for his pizza party at Durham…where they were based to organise a certain by-election in …….Hartlepool… not good enough to stay here?
By the way, they all get fixed penalty notices, so it’s not a crime technically, more like a speeding ticket, a civil offence…..but it lifts me heart to see anyone frothing over it

It's the immoral side of it when he pretends he didn't know whilst imploring us all in his daily press conferences. It's the 'do as I say not as i do' attitude that's just so poor

It's not so much he pretends he didn't know, more the fact that he continually lied to the HOC.

In the old days they would be carted off to the Tower and BoJo would have nothing left above his neck!

As for the husband of the billionaires daughter he could follow as well.

Get over it lads, it’s politics and they all do it, and I mean all.

Get over it.. it doesn't matter. What a complete shit excuse for wrong doing!
Where is your evidence that they all do it? Um! Nowhere.

To quote the bible
Let he without sin cast the first stone.

Or - "people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones"

If they all do it then sometimes there is a chance to recalibrate and this is one of those moments

f/a/o comrade ball...re agent corbyn...lies...evidence...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ath-laying

https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/10/03/je ... in-labour/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10439328/ ... -lies-nhs/

..."A liar, a racist, a fantasist and a fool."

Your naivety is touching. I don’t have a political preference, I vote for who offers me the best option at the time, whereas I suspect you don’t but vote repeatedly for the same party whoever it is.
As for my evidence, try reading some political history, it’s there by the bucket load, educate yourself to the shit reality of politics.
I just hold my nose and mark the ballot paper.

I’d pay to see this put into practice as if, you’re dealing with human nature, they’re not gadgets to be re-set to angels.

It would be interesting to know what Jill Mortimer has achieved for Hartlepool since being elected, nought the same as all the previous MPs including Peter Mandleson, Politicians are in it for themselves.

everything we actually use and buy seems to go up week on week. this is a bigger worry to me at present and in the future than the whole partygate affair is. doubt the resignation of johnson and sunak will help my finances very much or anyone elses either. looking at the whole world and its problems, this is so insignificant it cannot be true.

Politicians are just different cheeks of the same arse if voting made any difference they would make it illegal.

Houchen actually is doing a good job, as for her, she’s been in office under a year and got slagged off from day one yet the previous MP resigned and subsequent revelations soon revealed why, but rather surprisingly no one appeared shocked by them. Funny old world.

Well there was the lies from Blair and Campbell (no1 twitter hypocrite) over the Iraq war for a start.
Slightly worse than a piece of birthday cake.

snowy...."Houchen actually is doing a good job, as for her, she’s been in office under a year and got slagged off from day one yet the previous MP resigned and subsequent revelations soon revealed why, but rather surprisingly no one appeared shocked by them. Funny old world."

https://www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/2021 ... al-conduct

...media and comrade ball more interested in PM's response to being given a surprise birthday cake at the office...funny old world indeed....pooty must be laughing his ck off...

Looking at the photo of our Mr Hill, he was hardly a candidate for the next James Bond role …a scarecrow themed Bond I suppose, but that would have limited appeal I’d imagine.

I remember Starmer and his heavies been thrown out of a pub in Bath last year.Absolutely terrifying for the poor landlord.Shocking!!

I’d still like to know why they weren’t based in Hartlepool during the by-election, is Durham City more in line with their self perceived ‘status’….?

The word surprise is the important factor here. He walked into the cabinet room, as PM's do, as it is part of his workplace, to find his co workers with a cake. They wished him a happy birthday, he stayed for ten minutes, probably out of politeness and/or embarrassment.
Rishi Sunak hadn't been informed that there was a birthday surprise taking place but he also walked into the cabinet room, as chancellor's do. Both have paid their fines because they can't be arsed to challenge the criminal act of accepting the gift of food whilst at work.
I dare suggest that the same scenario with various tweaks happened up and down the country, my wife's office did exactly the same thing.
Putting political point scoring to one side, it is important to remember that Downing St is a place of work for hundreds of people and gatherings at lunchtime etc are bound to take place.

Johnson and Sunak have made mistakes but they've also achieved successes but it is difficult finding any praise from the momentum led loony left, and another but, they jump on B and R for getting a fine for a non criminal offence and demand their resignation.
These anti government fanatics are letting themselves down and letting their Parties down but the silver lining to their behaviour is the fact that they are underlining why we don't elect them
The question I am asking myself is do I prefer any of them running the country instead of Johnson and Sunak.
I am certainly not sacking those two over attending a surprise gathering in the cabinet room of which they had no prior knowledge was taking place.
You'll have to come up with something better than that to force my hand.
Anyway I broke the rules so hypocrisy isn't on my table.
If Starmer was as honest as he expects everyone else to be, he would take the same stand. Likewise the little pompous fart from Skye could do the same.
They are showing their true colours, thankfully.

derwent..."Likewise the little pompous fart from Skye"

...kay burley or beth rigby?..hypocrites....cant believe skye for allowing it.....absolutely morally corrupt allowing these two to pontificate on any covid rule breaking..

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/ ... -last-year

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ended.html

Yep and pigs also fly

Were they flying when Starmer was meeting with colleagues over beer and pizza in Durham in premises that can hardly be described as his workplace? The reason I'm asking is because I don't recall you having a go at him. Being the even handed, pro fair play chap that you are you must have inadvertently forgot that incident.

Keep clutching at them straws

Apologise for being so subtle, mate, I was referring to the SNP guy Blackford.

I'll stop clutching if you can explain why I should.

derwent..."Likewise the little pompous fart from Skye"

"Apologise for being so subtle, mate, I was referring to the SNP guy Blackford"

no ...my fault..thought you said tart..not fart....sky not skye...glasses need replacing....issue is still the same...pompous fkin hypocrite....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland- ... s-55058408

I was referring to Blackford mate.

You are right to point out other hypocrites though.

blackford....what a merchant banker..

https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/ ... aim-234777

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/ian ... es-kennedy

What is happening now is a direct parallel to the SNP's and Blackford's in particular treatment of Kennedy, with the deliberate hounding by the BBC and MSM of the PM and his Chancellor.
There is a revelation a day at the moment intended to oust the government and it's leader.
Whereas some may welcome this, the hard fact is that the MSM is deliberately trying to lead the country, ably assisted by the BBC, against the Government.
They handpick what they want to tell the public and ignore anything that could remotely give the Gov any credit
An example is what Johnson said to parliament. He said "I'm suitably informed that the covid rules were not broken" The BBC reported that Johnson said "The covid rules were not broken".
This Government has already indicated that the BBC's license is unlikely to be renewed and the BBC are hitting back.
Fast forward to a situation were they succeed in ousting the Government, which inevitably will see starmer and his Labour Party elected. Labour and the BBC in partnership. Is that not tantamount to a state controlled media TV station?????
When it subsequently goes tits up and the country falls to it's knees the BBC will then turn on the Labour Party and throw them under the bus.
More pigs flying about and straw clutching........We'll see.

I'll be honest that the fact they had meetings/parties didn't bother me too much as we probably all bent the rules a little bit. The thing I have a problem with is that they didn't have the moral fibre to put their hands up and accept they had done something wrong. A simple "Yes there was a gathering and with hindsight we shouldn't have done it" would have gone a long way IMO

Your right, but hindsight is the key word……in the great picture of things, this will really be one of those things that people will say in years to come they were facing a possible nuclear clash and people were outraged over his ‘lack of moral fibre’ over a birthday cake…really?
I think his moral fibre as such has been proven over Ukraine, but Boris is one of those people the chip on shoulder grumblers love to vent their spleen on.
If he’d walked into the ‘birthday party’ scattered his staff and sacked the organisers he’d be accused of being a shit boss and Vaxing zealot by Starmer.

derwent..."There is a revelation a day at the moment intended to oust the government and it's leader"

...agree....MSM have been playing the same game as their friends across the pond...went on for nearly 4 years there trying to oust trump....russia....stormy daniels...pissing tapes....etc....over here we've had that american slapper arcuri....the wallpaper scandal ...and now the birthday cake...from todays rwanda news glad to see boris is not going to buckle and intends to take them on...

The problem was the civil servants were having these gatherings whilst assuring the PM that no rules were broken and as soon as it was established they were illegal the PM went to Parliament and apologised and a few heads rolled and a few resignations were accepted. So the PM was actually one of the few who did put his hands up. The people after his hide are refusing to accept or acknowledge that because their agenda is simply to get rid, led by the BBC who want rid of him before he gets rid of them. It's not difficult to understand. When the police deemed it illegal to spend ten minutes acknowledging birthday accolades and issued a fine, it was immediately paid and a public apology was given. Personally I can never recall popping my head round a door for ten minutes and describing that as attending a party.
Nah they're after him and we have to look beyond this incessant hounding and remind the MSM that they are not elected. If you want to watch the PM and others treat this way then that's a fella's choice but I think it is dangerous. At best the BBC are on the verge of being dangerous to our democracy and at worst they are already there. The people are responsible for choosing the Government, not the MSM.
They didn't hound Starmer over his meetings simply because they're not after him but they want Boris. I'm surprised people can't see that. Maybe they don't want to see it but it is as plain as the nose on yer face.
Don't you think it's funny that the only two politicians who have been fined are the PM and the Chancellor.
Beware, Beware.

It strikes me as rather strange that the Met have issued fines over the birthday event rather than the larger parties that have very little defence. There were no suitcases full of wine at this one. Having set the bar so low it seems likely that Boris will receive numerous fines which will escalate the calls for him to go. I think he is now a dead man walking. The Tories will oust him when they think he is an electoral liability. It could be after the May elections or he may limp along until the full Sue Grey report comes out. He could even make it through to the Covid Inquiry report. If there was a strong contender to take over he could have been gone already.

Yeah the Met's decision to start with that one surprised me as well. Personally I would have challenged the strength of that fine if it was me and I can't help feeling that the Met and Boris have done a deal. If the birthday bash was organised as a surprise, as is alleged, and the organisers could and would testify that it was, added to the fact that Boris left immediately, it is questionable that there was a deliberate attempt to break the rules. That would constitute the basis of my defence if I was the accused.
As for changing the PM, I haven't a problem with that as long as it's the Tory party and/or the electorate who choose to do it and not the MSM.
There was a strong contender in Rishi Sunak but the MSM have done their utmost to stifle that one as well, even though not one person has pointed to any actual wrong doing.
The big Irony there is that it is the MSM and the BBC in particular who are screaming from the top of the moral high ground, as if they were the guardians of it. Oh the irony.
My tip for the job if it becomes vacant would be Liz Truss.
I think the big noises who were constantly wheeled out during the pandemic bulletins are a bit too exposed.
Changing the PM could cement a Tory government for another five years if the electorate see putting Boris out to grass as a bold move forward. It would also diminish the weaponry at the disposal of the opposition parties but in their haste to get rid of Johnson, they may be blind to that scenario. The well known saying on that is be careful what you wish for.

I very much doubt it.
I suspect if the narcissistic hypocrites who seem to run rampant in certain Party’s were around in 1940 with the Battle of Britain raging, Starmer would be asking in the House if it was true he had exceeded his cigar allowance for the month, as he scathingly condemns Churchill for breaking rationing rules, thus breaking the law and should stand down immediately…… Storming Starmer would then be happy to lead a coalition and dispatch Rayner and Abbot to negotiate with Herr Hitler. Mel Brooks could write the script.

would pay good money to see that at the pictures. any suggestions who could get the parts to play rayner and abbott.

I’ve been reading a couple of biographies recently, going over old ground, but discovered the perfect person to run this country……his attributes are……

Non drinker.
Non smoker.
Vegetarian.
Likes children
Has a cream tea with guests every afternoon.
Believer in the British Empire (as was).
Great fan of Cowboy films.
Animal lover.
Did not believe in a Monarchy.
Despised the class system.
Wanted to be rid of all religions.
‘Believed all his people were equal’ in his part of the world.

Guess who?

Arthur Scargill.

Actually …… Adolf Hitler…..!

Did his Mam write that. Ha.

Fact I’m afraid, no wind up.

I believe you, it's his account I'm not fussy with. He certainly didn't like Jewish children.