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poolie1 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:45 pm **Posts:** 2002

stomps..."I'm with you Mr P. Odusina's strength is his speed of recovery but half the time he has put himself in a bad position by poor play. We will find better!"

yeah....i will be shedding no tears if he departs...wonder if that rotherham lad richard wood has any legs left in him?...probably not... but exactly what we need....especially if we stick with a flapper between the posts...

RichyHpool · **Posted:** Mon Apr 11, 2022 12:35 pm

Surely you've just described Liddle if you want a player like wood!

poolie1 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:45 pm **Posts:** 2002

rich..."Surely you've just described Liddle if you want a player like wood!"

...err....youre absolutely right...they are both 36 years old.....but are they are both 6ft 3' ?..both defenders who dominate the box in the air ?.....excel at heading away crosses?....bullying opposing players.?...tough aggressive dirty b/stds?...both ex central midfield players?.....yeah of course they are....what on earth am i thinking about....maybe just stick with lids and his long term achilles problem eh? :laugh:

Porter’s porter · **Joined:** Sat May 23, 2020 8:52 am **Posts:** 161

Genuine question to the people doubting Odisina, have you been to a game this season? You are describing his performances from last season. This season he has been pure class. He’s like a Rio Ferdinand type defender now. Bigger clubs will be after him for sure this Summer.

poolie1 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:45 pm **Posts:** 2002

porter...."He’s like a Rio Ferdinand type defender now."

....you get tanked up before games?..i like to stay sober... :laugh:

RichyHpool · **Posted:** Mon Apr 11, 2022 3:26 pm

Oh sorry my mistake, I didn't realise you were Richard Wood's No1 fan/agent!

poolie1 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:45 pm **Posts:** 2002

l heard that feaths is currently more than a little frustrated.....apparently been going on for some time ...and there was a disagreement between him and the spike during the newport game ?..anybody know anything more ?

Snailwood2 · **Joined:** Thu Dec 15, 2016 8:18 pm **Posts:** 251

poolie1 wrote:

l heard that feaths is currently more than a little frustrated.....apparently been going on for some time ...and there was a disagreement between him and the spike during the newport game ?..anybody know anything more ?

You seem to know everything better than anyone else so I would doubt it. :laugh:

poolie1 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:45 pm **Posts:** 2002

smallhead.."the problem with fondop was a lack of condition"... nuff said....

Fetish_Bob · **Posted:** Mon Apr 11, 2022 5:05 pm

poolie1 wrote:

l heard that feaths is currently more than a little frustrated.....apparently been going on for some time ...and there was a disagreement between him and the spike during the newport game ?..anybody know anything more ?

Surely whoever told you that must have been in the dressing room at the end of the game or on the coach home so surely no one knows more than he has told you, If he wasnt( which I'm presumimg) who told him so get him to check on his inside information or simply just accept that someone down the line has made it up and ignore it.

poolie1 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:45 pm **Posts:** 2002

bob...."accept that someone down the line has made it up and ignore it."

...on advice... just checked it out on the i follow full match replay of the newport game....sure enough.... from 0.45.27.....commentator describes it all....sounds like a right ding dong between the two of them....other players had to intervene...make your own mind up...

https://www.hartlepoolunited.co.uk/matc ... video=true

Amber SUFC · **Joined:** Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:22 am **Posts:** 25

Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

thebigdog wrote:

Whilst you could say it goes with the territory - ie losing all your best players every season - there does appear to be clubs such as Sutton who managed just fine to retain theirs.

Possibly a ridiculous comparison but look at the best clubs in the world who have built a team over many seasons and hand selected small improvements each window.

If only….

Sutton have an advantage in that they are located in an attractive part of the country. As much as I love Hartlepool, it is not the sort of place a seasoned pro would come to if he had an equal offer from a big city club. Also, if you are a based in the London area, it is a right ball ache to uproot your family and move to Barrow, Carlisle, Hartlepool, Harrogate etc. Every incentive to stay put if the money is at least acceptable. Also we can only assume Sutton pay higher wages than we do. Richie Bennett couldn't wait to get himself there even though he had been in the North West all of his career. A club like Pools will shop window the likes of Oates, Josh Hawkes, Mols and the like and they want to be away first chance they get. Not blaming them, it is just the way things are with a club like Pools. We are left with journeymen pros, former stars who are on the wane, loan players and youngsters trying to launch their careers. That's what comprises our current team and it will be no different next season though the individuals will have changed.

On the subject of Sutton, though, I think they have invested in their squad in the hope they can go up. If they dont, I'm expecting a substantial clear out and a much smaller squad. Maybe that is why they have allowed a so many contracts to run out at the end of this season, in case they dont get promoted.

Sorry that’s all far from the truth. We just wanted to stay in the league this season. In January we didn’t recruit, in fact we reduced our squad size. Also what club would buy a player and put him on a one year contract!

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37440

Fetish_Bob wrote:

poolie1 wrote:

l heard that feaths is currently more than a little frustrated.....apparently been going on for some time ...and there was a disagreement between him and the spike during the newport game ?..anybody know anything more ?

Surely whoever told you that must have been in the dressing room at the end of the game or on the coach home so surely no one knows more than he has told you, If he wasnt( which I'm presumimg) who told him so get him to check on his inside information or simply just accept that someone down the line has made it up and ignore it.

Could be ‘Keyhole Kate’, she’s been seen at the Staincliffe.

thebigdog · **Joined:** Sat Aug 10, 2013 6:49 pm **Posts:** 1278

poolie1 wrote:

bob...."accept that someone down the line has made it up and ignore it."

...on advice... just checked it out on the i follow full match replay of the newport game....sure enough.... from 0.45.27.....commentator describes it all....sounds like a right ding dong between the two of them....other players had to intervene...make your own mind up...

https://www.hartlepoolunited.co.uk/matc ... video=true

Please explain Poolie1

poolie1 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:45 pm **Posts:** 2002

dog..go to the os site and sign up for ifollow..costs nowt... newport match in video archive....matty nixon from radio tees gives a detailed account of what he saw on the touchline...it wasnt shown on the video...happened during a break in play just before half time..his comments are too lengthy for me to repeat verbatim here..make your own mind up...am surprised it hasnt been given more attention tbh...especially as feaths dropped in favour of spikes mate morris at the week end...

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 19729

players and managers having a spat at a game. whats new anyway. at the end of the day spike is in charge of the whole team and not just a single player who thinks they know best or cannot take a bollocking.

poolie1 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:45 pm **Posts:** 2002

accrington.....think yet again you have the wrong end of the stick in your hand...yeah.. "whats new anyway".....go away and have a listen...

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4448

Porter’s porter wrote:

Genuine question to the people doubting Odisina, have you been to a game this season? You are describing his performances from last season. This season he has been pure class. He’s like a Rio Ferdinand type defender now. Bigger clubs will be after him for sure this Summer.

Some fans will realise when odusina moves on and we replace him with some youngster on loan, that he was a pretty decent player and we won't be any better off.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12364

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

Porter’s porter wrote:

Genuine question to the people doubting Odisina, have you been to a game this season? You are describing his performances from last season. This season he has been pure class. He’s like a Rio Ferdinand type defender now. Bigger clubs will be after him for sure this Summer.

Some fans will realise when odusina moves on and we replace him with some youngster on loan, that he was a pretty decent player and we won't be any better off.

Odusina was a youngster who came on loan, subsequently signed a permanent deal and is now recognised as one of our best assets.

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4448

derwent wrote:

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

Porter’s porter wrote:

Genuine question to the people doubting Odisina, have you been to a game this season? You are describing his performances from last season. This season he has been pure class. He’s like a Rio Ferdinand type defender now. Bigger clubs will be after him for sure this Summer.

Some fans will realise when odusina moves on and we replace him with some youngster on loan, that he was a pretty decent player and we won't be any better off.

Odusina was a youngster who came on loan, subsequently signed a permanent deal and is now recognised as one of our best assets.

He is but how many gems do we find 1 every 5 year?.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12364

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

derwent wrote:

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

Porter’s porter wrote:

Genuine question to the people doubting Odisina, have you been to a game this season? You are describing his performances from last season. This season he has been pure class. He’s like a Rio Ferdinand type defender now. Bigger clubs will be after him for sure this Summer.

Some fans will realise when odusina moves on and we replace him with some youngster on loan, that he was a pretty decent player and we won't be any better off.

Odusina was a youngster who came on loan, subsequently signed a permanent deal and is now recognised as one of our best assets.

He is but how many gems do we find 1 every 5 year?.

I can't be arsed to spend time working it all out but can offer Molyneux as another. I'm not suggesting it's the best route but it is an available route and therefore needs to be considered. You have to remember that the vast majority of young loanees go back to their parent club and aren't available for us to sign. For instance we would have signed Lewis Cass in a flash. I'd take Joe White off Newcastle's hands as well.
Some would take a chance on Matty Daly. Lee also tried to get Josh Coburn on loan, so they are there to be had.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 19729

poolie1 wrote:

accrington.....think yet again you have the wrong end of the stick in your hand...yeah.. "whats new anyway".....go away and have a listen...

had another listen and have not changed my mind on the incident. no one if i remember correctly mentioned the incident after the game so why bring it up now. if he had taken featherstone off for the second half then we could have something to talk about.

poolie1 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:45 pm **Posts:** 2002

accrington...so in your world ...a manager going head to head with his captain... or vice versa....out on the pitch... and other players needing to get involved....is just run of the mill everyday stuff...."whats new anyway"...fine and dandy....not a good look at all from my point of view...but watch this space as they say....feaths has another year left on his contract... :laugh:

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 19729

poolie1 wrote:

accrington...so in your world ...a manager going head to head with his captain... or vice versa....out on the pitch... and other players needing to get involved....is just run of the mill everyday stuff...."whats new anyway"...fine and dandy....not a good look at all from my point of view...but watch this space as they say....feaths has another year left on his contract... :laugh:

think if he does not start again this season or spike trues to farm him out at the end of the season then that will show how serious that spat was.

poolie1 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:45 pm **Posts:** 2002

accrington....."whats new anyway".

...watch this space.....and yes.....there she blows captain !!.. :laugh:

https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/sport/ ... ne-3650950

"Both Featherstone and Lee could be seen in conversation long after the final whistle out on the field with Lee perhaps explaining to his captain the decision not to introduce him into the game."

..."perhaps"....? :laugh:

thebigdog · **Joined:** Sat Aug 10, 2013 6:49 pm **Posts:** 1278

Probably more concerning in that article is where Lee confirms we’ll be signing Bryn Morris.

Apparently struggling to train due to innocuous injuries. Plays a game and Lee says doesn’t look or feel right yet.

Also expect Shelton to leave. Wonder if there’s any eyes on Joe Grey?

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 19729

due to joe,s age i yhink there could be quite a lot willing to give him a chance higher than pools are.

poolie1 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:45 pm **Posts:** 2002

“He’s a big part of this club for me going forward which I hope he can see that side of it "

nah spike ...thats bollox and u know it...."off the pitch issues".....

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37440

poolie1 wrote:

accrington....."whats new anyway".

...watch this space.....and yes.....there she blows captain !!.. :laugh:

https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/sport/ ... ne-3650950

"Both Featherstone and Lee could be seen in conversation long after the final whistle out on the field with Lee perhaps explaining to his captain the decision not to introduce him into the game."

..."perhaps"....? :laugh:

Maybe he was just rotating his players and playing about to see how different formations pan out, which is what we need to see.

poolie1 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:45 pm **Posts:** 2002

snowy..."Maybe he was just rotating his players"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajBCGboVeI0

Eiphos_3 · **Posted:** Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:08 pm

we are due a key player/manager falling out - if we can sell Feaths and bring in a younger reliable player then a wont shed a tear. Not always good loosing a player to unrest never mind a long serving captain of the club. Its going to be one of those nervous summers i reckon. Maybe Feaths is frustrated at the fact the team may be split up again and quite frankly we are left without any of our best players

Ozzy Saltburn · **Joined:** Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:34 pm **Posts:** 3766

I cant imagine many teams would pay money for a 34 yr old. If we released him he would get a game for someone but I just cant think a fee would be paid.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37440

There comes a time…. violin

We could be having this conversation in 2032 as Featherstone has long conversation on the pitch with Manager Warnock.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 19729

Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

I cant imagine many teams would pay money for a 34 yr old. If we released him he would get a game for someone but I just cant think a fee would be paid.

he could do a good job for some team who have not got a single player in their squad similar to him. like we could do with a big defensive midfielder who bosses that position which others have too many of the like. always rated featherstone even when others gave him stick, but when he has missed games i never thought we,d have done so much better if he,d had been playing.

thebigdog · **Joined:** Sat Aug 10, 2013 6:49 pm **Posts:** 1278

Cal Roberts to Pools.

Molyneux to Blackpool.

Latest from Jim White.

Ozzy Saltburn · **Joined:** Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:34 pm **Posts:** 3766

thebigdog wrote:

Cal Roberts to Pools.

Molyneux to Blackpool.

Latest from Jim White.

Mols to Blackpool is plausible but unless he is out of contract and can walk, Cal Roberts would cost far more than we could afford. Apart from that, why would a talented young player come to Pools when higher profile clubs would be keen to have him? Nah, cant see it.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37440

Jim White eh…..?

Ozzy Saltburn · **Joined:** Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:34 pm **Posts:** 3766

Snowy wrote:

Jim White eh…..?

Was a decent snooker player in his day.

kebab & chips · **Posted:** Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:17 pm

Its about time we looked at different options without Feath in midfield.
Every player has been left out at times & he shouldn't be any different,he's not irreplaceable.
He's had a decent season,but the three games he's missed,we won two & drew against the league leaders.

RichyHpool · **Posted:** Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:26 pm

Roberts injury problems are what has held him back in his career, can't see many big clubs coming in for him for that reason. Really talented player and I'd love him at pools IF he could stay fit!.

Ozzy Saltburn · **Joined:** Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:34 pm **Posts:** 3766

RichyHpool wrote:

Roberts injury problems are what has held him back in his career, can't see many big clubs coming in for him for that reason. Really talented player and I'd love him at pools IF he could stay fit!.

I can imagine he wants League football and is unlikely to get it at Notts County in the next 12 months so I can conceive of teams like, Mansfield, Bradford, Swindon etc being interested. They can afford or are prepared to pay better wages than we can. Dont get me wrong, I would love to see him in a Pools shirt especially as Mols is just about packing his bags but I just cant really see how it could happen.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 19729

agree saltburn, however i think pools nowadays should not be the last resort for players as they once where. a club starting to look upwards instead of one downwards or like a few who survive this season ending up having another season of just being the same.

Ozzy Saltburn · **Joined:** Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:34 pm **Posts:** 3766

accrington fan wrote:

agree saltburn, however i think pools nowadays should not be the last resort for players as they once where. a club starting to look upwards instead of one downwards or like a few who survive this season ending up having another season of just being the same.

I agree. There certainly appears to be more ambition at the club since Raj took over than we have seen for many years.

Johnjo1 · **Joined:** Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:52 pm **Posts:** 1625

Dear me don’t say that you’ll have the doomongers jumping down your throat.

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4448

Johnjo1 wrote:

Dear me don’t say that you’ll have the doomongers jumping down your throat.

What ambition? The club has been stabilised and now makes money but what ambition do we have? Aren't we about to lose our good players for a second season In succession.

Johnjo1 · **Joined:** Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:52 pm **Posts:** 1625

I warned you ozzy

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 19729

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

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What ambition? The club has been stabilised and now makes money but what ambition do we have? Aren't we about to lose our good players for a second season In succession.

keep your powder dry as up to this minute pools have not lost a single player who could push the club on. anyway no single player is irreplacable as long as recruitment is spot on anyway. saying that its a case of having faith or not in the manager.

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4448

accrington fan wrote:

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

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What ambition? The club has been stabilised and now makes money but what ambition do we have? Aren't we about to lose our good players for a second season In succession.

keep your powder dry as up to this minute pools have not lost a single player who could push the club on. anyway no single player is irreplacable as long as recruitment is spot on anyway. saying that its a case of having faith or not in the manager.

I'm a little concerned we have got rid of players like Gav and Angol yet want to keep say a Cook. Ive no faith in the chairman im afraid to give us a decent team next year, but I'm more than willing to be proved wrong he did the business in the conference for us, but for the last year its been getting rid or losing players or backroom staff. I won't be conned into a season ticket this year until I finally see some quality players signed. We look weak as piss at the minute.

Double Figures · **Joined:** Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:47 am **Posts:** 845

It’s easy to blame the owner isn’t it every time something goes wrong. If we don’t get a decent team next year is it all his fault? When we do well is it all down to him? We have a competitive budget for the league. We don’t sign staff or players on extended contracts. Some will leave. Two really great seasons. Academy to be established once more. Owner says he is open to investors. Highest average attendance that we can remember. Great cup runs. Signed some decent players for this level Too many positives for some people.

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4448

Double Figures wrote:

It’s easy to blame the owner isn’t it every time something goes wrong. If we don’t get a decent team next year is it all his fault? When we do well is it all down to him? We have a competitive budget for the league. We don’t sign staff or players on extended contracts. Some will leave. Two really great seasons. Academy to be established once more. Owner says he is open to investors. Highest average attendance that we can remember. Great cup runs. Signed some decent players for this level Too many positives for some people.

Nail on head highest average attendance since we can remember and great cup runs. So why do we struggle so much to keep our better players? When we got promoted it was down to raj no one can deny that, gave us a team to be proud of. That team has been dismantled if fans can't see we are a pale shadow of that side now, then there in for a shock if decent players aren't signed this pre season.

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