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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 8:25 am 
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pools 1 orient 0. surely something will go right for me this week. daughter in law age 32 died last night pneumonia. what a shitty few days. come on pools do it for louise.


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pools 1 orient 0. surely something will go right for me this week. daughter in law age 32 died last night pneumonia. what a shitty few days. come on pools do it for louise.


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Puts football into perspective.

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thoughts and prays with you mate aweful news - Pools will do her proud this weekend am sure.

im going for a 3-1 to us now Grey is back in the fold. Bogle double and Grey with another poachers finish !


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cheers folk. Even though he is not a poolie but a stockport fan like one of his lads are the wider football world will be around him for sure. even a long phone call about the two clubs did take his mind off things even for a hour.


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Awful for the whole family - no words are adequate if there are bairns involved too. Condolences to you and yours.


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Mr Accrington my deepest sympathy to you and your family,


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Puts football into perspective.


Certainly does.
Sorry to hear that Accy.

Should be a home banker going on current form.


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Very sorry to hear your sad news Accy. Pools 2 The O's 0 Bogle and Ferguson.


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Worst 45 for a while that. What is the crack with these slow starts!?


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Dire. It happens. However why on earth is Gavan Holohan left on the bench when it is clear we are crying out for an attacking outlet. Think Crawford needs some time out, it’s caught up…

Carver looked semi professional - might get some grief for this - but doubt he has a Pools career in front of him, all aggression, no skill.


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I don't think Carver is going to excel in this league either, unless he makes dramatic improvement and proves me wrong.
Crawford's main problem is hitting the target. He gets in good positions but is not converting enough. Holohan appears to be off the radar.
Today's performance was lacking spark but the fixtures are taking their toll. Today was the first of three matches in seven days, adding to a recent semi final which makes it four in ten days. I don't think our squad is big enough or balanced enough to handle that. Hopefully we'll have Morris back for the next match, although Shelton is performing.
We still need another striker in my opinion.

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The bits that annoyed me was the pace with which we were taking throw ins, free kicks, all set plays. We’re AT HOME against a team who couldn’t buy a win for toffee… why are we taking our time and not creating urgency whenever we have a throw in or free kick. Everything slow… full game SLOW


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Well that was dire, slow, pedestrian no urgency whatsoever, crying out for a molyneux and hologhan , shame that one of them we won't play because of his contract situation and the other was 60 mins too late.


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The fact is that we are just about safe now, so why don't we just go for the jugular every game from now to the end of the season. Allow the players to express themselves and see where it gets us. Another massive gate today. Playing entertaining football is going to keep people interested, whilst gathering more bulk to the war chest for next season.

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It looked as if there were a lot of heavy legs on the pitch today- possibly Spike should have made a few more changes to the starting 11. Hope he does on Tuesday.

It was a real case of after the Lord Mayor's show and I'm not sure the players can be blamed too much - they put everything into trying to get Pools to Wembley on Wednesday. It's probably not a coincidence that Sutton lost a game they might have expected to win and Rotherham only drew.


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Mr Accrington my deepest sympathy to you and your family,



.All the same from me Mr Accrington..


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
Well that was dire, slow, pedestrian no urgency whatsoever, crying out for a molyneux and hologhan , shame that one of them we won't play because of his contract situation and the other was 60 mins too late.


Said to the guy next to me, if Holohan doesn't get the last 15 minutes of this game, I can't see him getting any game time.at all. Can't understand why he's on the bench if he's not going to play a part. Would love to know what the problem is.


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He can unlock a game that's for sure , maybe he's too small now we are going for bigger lads


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A lot of people were expecting a walkover, but just because they haven’t won for quite a while, they haven’t been losing either...just draws.

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Perhaps Bogle isn't sufficiently match fit for our current schedule?

Why all the long balls out from the back by Byrne? That's not the playing style which has worked for us. White looked a bit off yesterday, & he shouldn't really be affected by our recent run of games.

What's the "contract situation" with Holohan that is referred to ?


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Purely speculating but I’m not sure Graeme believes we have strength in depth. He’s reluctant to make changes as we saw against Rotherham and yesterday - and whenever we deviate from our best 11 I think we fall well short of the performance level. Can appreciate players being leggy but not being mentally hungover from Weds - we can still achieve something this season - every game is a cup final until it’s mathematically impossible for us to get play-offs.

I’m not sure we’ve seen the best from White yet but as against Sutton at home I think he struggles out wide in this league. Morris has had injury issues in the past - let’s hope this isn’t the sign of things to come in regards his position.


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
Well that was dire, slow, pedestrian no urgency whatsoever, crying out for a molyneux and hologhan , shame that one of them we won't play because of his contract situation and the other was 60 mins too late.


Said to the guy next to me, if Holohan doesn't get the last 15 minutes of this game, I can't see him getting any game time.at all. Can't understand why he's on the bench if he's not going to play a part. Would love to know what the problem is.


It triggers something in his contract apparently if he plays. Obviously on his way, probobly to Stockport.


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Purely speculating but I’m not sure Graeme believes we have strength in depth. He’s reluctant to make changes as we saw against Rotherham and yesterday - and whenever we deviate from our best 11 I think we fall well short of the performance level. Can appreciate players being leggy but not being mentally hungover from Weds - we can still achieve something this season - every game is a cup final until it’s mathematically impossible for us to get play-offs.

I’m not sure we’ve seen the best from White yet but as against Sutton at home I think he struggles out wide in this league. Morris has had injury issues in the past - let’s hope this isn’t the sign of things to come in regards his position.


Lots of fans were raving about our transfer activity in the window, apart from Bogle and maybe white we struggle whenever we have to leave out better players out. Morris looks a good signing but it's no good if he is injured all the time.


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billy....."It triggers something in his contract apparently if he plays. Obviously on his way, probobly to Stockport."

yet more of ..."From the horses mouth so to speak" ?....more like more of your usual horseshit....give it a rest....

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billy....."It triggers something in his contract apparently if he plays. Obviously on his way, probobly to Stockport."

yet more of ..."From the horses mouth so to speak" ?....more like more of your usual horseshit....give it a rest....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nYxcmPu2RE


You really are a pillock aren't you ever thought some might know a bit more than you on some stuff? Unless you think some inside the club are making it all up.

Hologhan will be on his way end of season and will hardly play another minute, come back to me at the end of the season when he has signed his new contract and played the remaining games if you think it's all bullshit.


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This is what puzzles me. If he's not going to get game time, why clog up a place on the bench ? May as well let him go now. He certainly deserves better.


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This is what puzzles me. If he's not going to get game time, why clog up a place on the bench ? May as well let him go now. He certainly deserves better.


It's certainly a strange situation. Has never let us down and at times been one of our better players.


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

Lots of fans were raving about our transfer activity in the window, apart from Bogle and maybe white we struggle whenever we have to leave out better players out. Morris looks a good signing but it's no good if he is injured all the time.

One less than satisfactory game and not the expected result for some people and suddenly the worlds falling apart......piffle ffs :roll:

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This is what puzzles me. If he's not going to get game time, why clog up a place on the bench ? May as well let him go now. He certainly deserves better.

Does a manager have to play every substitute on the bench, no of course not. Will we be letting go every other substitute who hasn’t been played this season as well, again, of course not.
Obviously the honeymoon period is over for some.

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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
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This is what puzzles me. If he's not going to get game time, why clog up a place on the bench ? May as well let him go now. He certainly deserves better.


It's certainly a strange situation. Has never let us down and at times been one of our better players.

Aye, back in the day, but I don’t recall you organising a petition demanding his reinstatement in the team before today.

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billy....it must be hard for spike...being told he cant play gav because it would cost the club money...the clown at his best....

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Snowy wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
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This is what puzzles me. If he's not going to get game time, why clog up a place on the bench ? May as well let him go now. He certainly deserves better.


It's certainly a strange situation. Has never let us down and at times been one of our better players.

Aye, back in the day, but I don’t recall you organising a petition demanding his reinstatement in the team before today.


Why would I organise a petition for him to be back in the team? He is on his way out. But when your struggling against one of the worst teams in the league a midfielder with a goal in him might if helped.


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billy....it must be hard for spike...being told he cant play gav because it would cost the club money...the clown at his best....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP6U5LBqA9A


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billy...you need to think about your "insider"...suspect he/she is having a right laugh at your expense...imo not right taking advantage of the vulnerable like that.....maybe your mam should have a word with him/her...

"We went cheap and we will pay for it, anybody that thinks we will seriously strengthen the squad in January is deluded, the money supply has been cut off." :laugh:

"It triggers something in his contract apparently if he plays" :laugh:


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poolie1 wrote:
billy...you need to think about your "insider"...suspect he/she is having a right laugh at your expense...imo not right taking advantage of the vulnerable like that.....maybe your mam should have a word with him/her...

"We went cheap and we will pay for it, anybody that thinks we will seriously strengthen the squad in January is deluded, the money supply has been cut off." :laugh:

"It triggers something in his contract apparently if he plays" :laugh:


Do you still want timi odusina out of the team? 4 games in a row man of the match.


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Snowy wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

Lots of fans were raving about our transfer activity in the window, apart from Bogle and maybe white we struggle whenever we have to leave out better players out. Morris looks a good signing but it's no good if he is injured all the time.

One less than satisfactory game and not the expected result for some people and suddenly the worlds falling apart......piffle ffs :roll:


No it's not the team were bound to have a serious come down after Wednesday. I've followed pools for long enough to know that any team with a terrible record tends to find pools as the helping hand. I don't think we have the strength in depth, judging by Lee's selection yday does he think he has the strength in depth? Or are we not allowed to ever say this after we draw?


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

Lots of fans were raving about our transfer activity in the window, apart from Bogle and maybe white we struggle whenever we have to leave out better players out. Morris looks a good signing but it's no good if he is injured all the time.

One less than satisfactory game and not the expected result for some people and suddenly the worlds falling apart......piffle ffs :roll:


No it's not the team were bound to have a serious come down after Wednesday. I've followed pools for long enough to know that any team with a terrible record tends to find pools as the helping hand. I don't think we have the strength in depth, judging by Lee's selection yday does he think he has the strength in depth? Or are we not allowed to ever say this after we draw?

Before we go any further can we put to bed this myth that having an opposing opinion is an attempt to silence or shut down criticism, when it patently isn’t. If I express an opinion that someone challenges, I don’t believe for a second someone is trying to shut down or silence me, it’s just opposing views of the same thing, it’s the lifeblood of these places, if we all came on board paying each other cute compliments and patting each other on the back it would be like tumbleweeds in the desert, deserted.
The line about terrible records is just another myth, we’re no different any other team, Orient haven’t won for a long time, but haven’t lost many either, they’re draw specialists and they did what the do, stifled the game.
As for Lee’s decisions, he bases them on his understanding of the situation. He’s with them every day, he knows their attitude, their foibles, their mindset and with the best will in the world 90 minutes on a Saturday or Tuesday night hardly gives any of us an insight into what goes on in the dressing room. I don’t have a clue, there’s the Unicorn jockey’s giving out their insider news that oddly never comes to anything so I just leave it to the man in charge to get on with his job.
If the season ends tomorrow I’ll be happy, we consolidated and had two excellent cup runs.

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Snowy wrote:
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Snowy wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

Lots of fans were raving about our transfer activity in the window, apart from Bogle and maybe white we struggle whenever we have to leave out better players out. Morris looks a good signing but it's no good if he is injured all the time.

One less than satisfactory game and not the expected result for some people and suddenly the worlds falling apart......piffle ffs :roll:


No it's not the team were bound to have a serious come down after Wednesday. I've followed pools for long enough to know that any team with a terrible record tends to find pools as the helping hand. I don't think we have the strength in depth, judging by Lee's selection yday does he think he has the strength in depth? Or are we not allowed to ever say this after we draw?

Before we go any further can we put to bed this myth that having an opposing opinion is an attempt to silence or shut down criticism, when it patently isn’t. If I express an opinion that someone challenges, I don’t believe for a second someone is trying to shut down or silence me, it’s just opposing views of the same thing, it’s the lifeblood of these places, if we all came on board paying each other cute compliments and patting each other on the back it would be like tumbleweeds in the desert, deserted.
The line about terrible records is just another myth, we’re no different any other team, Orient haven’t won for a long time, but haven’t lost many either, they’re draw specialists and they did what the do, stifled the game.
As for Lee’s decisions, he bases them on his understanding of the situation. He’s with them every day, he knows their attitude, their foibles, their mindset and with the best will in the world 90 minutes on a Saturday or Tuesday night hardly gives any of us an insight into what goes on in the dressing room. I don’t have a clue, there’s the Unicorn jockey’s giving out their insider news that oddly never comes to anything so I just leave it to the man in charge to get on with his job.
If the season ends tomorrow I’ll be happy, we consolidated and had two excellent cup runs.


Orients record in the last 16 won 0 drawn 6 lost 10 im not sure many of their fans would see it as a myth but recently i guess you can say they are steadying the ship, drawing their last 3.


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Do we think the season is over or can we even sneak the play offs?


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

Orients record in the last 16 won 0 drawn 6 lost 10 im not sure many of their fans would see it as a myth but recently i guess you can say they are steadying the ship, drawing their last 3.


Last 16....? Let’s do it properly eh. Over the season they’ve drawn 15 matches and lost 12, whereas we’ve drawn 9 and lost 13.
So they appear to have won more than us to boot.
Expectation is the midwife of disappointment...as me mams uncle Billy used to say and he knew about football.

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Snowy wrote:
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Orients record in the last 16 won 0 drawn 6 lost 10 im not sure many of their fans would see it as a myth but recently i guess you can say they are steadying the ship, drawing their last 3.


Last 16....? Let’s do it properly eh. Over the season they’ve drawn 15 matches and lost 12, whereas we’ve drawn 9 and lost 13.
So they appear to have won more than us to boot.
Expectation is the midwife of disappointment...as me mams uncle Billy used to say and he knew about football.



How have they won more than us? They are 5 points above the relegation zone.


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My mistake, should have been we’ve lost more than them.... but changes absolutely nothing. To assume they would be a walkover was naive.

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snowy...

"Unicorn jockey’s giving out their insider news that oddly never comes to anything"
"To assume they would be a walkover was naive."
"Expectation is the midwife of disappointment".

.....all so very true.....and as my uncle rarfie used to say....being a circus clown is the midwife of making a complete tit of yourself in public.... :laugh:


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did anyone really expect that they,d be witnessing the game of the season when the side was read out. a much changed side with everyone getting a game that did not play the full or most of the rotherham game could have done no worse against the worst side i have seen at the vic all season. possibly lee,s biggest mistake since he arrived at the club, but then he is only human. a game where neither side deserved a point.


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did anyone really expect that they,d be witnessing the game of the season when the side was read out. a much changed side with everyone getting a game that did not play the full or most of the rotherham game could have done no worse against the worst side i have seen at the vic all season. possibly lee,s biggest mistake since he arrived at the club, but then he is only human. a game where neither side deserved a point.


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Fela would of been a great addition to change this game - id be calling him back from his Loan.

hes a direct replacement for Grey off the bench - he can hold the ball up and runs the channels. Does more than Carver ever will.


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