Just got my review for the year and it’s actually doubled in price. Now my supplier sends out letters covered in slogans boasting their energy is all renewables now.....so....has solar power suddenly doubled price because the Sun has put it’s prices up? Has the wind slapped a huge bill in for it’s services ....?..... and I don’t recall the price of nuclear energy being effected by energy price rises.
If my hopeless provider is all renewable how can it go up so much.....?

Rip off Britain strikes again.

Check how the rate per therm has increased. Then check to see if their estimate of usage is realistic historically.
Do some sums and work out what you should be paying not forgetting the standing charge.
They often increase the monthly direct debit by more than is required.
If you think it's wrong ring them and politely negotiate.

I got though to some call centre in the West Midlands, the lovely half awake ‘helper’ then read out to himself in a West Midlands drawl to himself the letter they had sent me. Then he announced “”well ....that’s what you have to pay ....that amount”. When I told him two days before they’d sent me a review saying everything was hunky dory and I was in credit, he said “that’s now an ‘historic document’.” What????
I then enquired if his organisation knew it’s arse from it’s elbow and we parted company abruptly.
Three days later another letter arrives telling me everything is rosy in the garden.

Most Standing charges elec n gas about£260 a year.
Goes up again in October then again next April.
Pay cuts in April for almost evedyone when health tax kicks into wages.
Big drop off in football crowds next season.
And fuel poverty this winter wipeing out more oaps than covid.
Hard times on the way for most people.

Funny, these companies and the mainstream media lauded these smart meters as if they're the second coming of christ. Nothing but rising bills and frequent power cuts since.

I never got a smart meter...I took three separate days off work and waited in and each time no one turned up. Three days holidays wasted. Complaining is pointless I found out, so I just ignore them now.

Like you Snowy don't want Smart Meters, I read my meters every week and put them into a spread sheet I have and this gives me the cost of the Gas & Elec I've used in the previous 7 days. Do the same with Water but just once a month.

I got a " Smart meter " eventually after 3 years of hassle and it's now in the cupboard, i might put it on ebay.

Think of the VAT man.

More for Boris.

Keep ignoring them all a smart meter will do is throttle your juice.

That's what my dad always said but he was talking about too tight trousers

They can’t make you have one, If they could, they’d be taking your front door off to do it.
Thing is with the meters they can monitor your total usage age 24/7, your busy times and quiet times and when everyone is in the system I’d imagine higher tariffs for peak times and a whole lot more we can’t begin to imagine.
I always believe that if you have a set pattern of equipment you use, you’re not going to change your habits to save coppers on your bill.
I changed the entire light bulb stock in the house to LED’s a few years back, it made difference to my bill whatsoever.

Petrol,diesel,interest rates all on the up and then there's the huge ongoing covid bill to settle.It does make you wonder how it's all going to end up.

best place for it. if anything is actually called Smart and you get endless messages about fitting one you now quite well its no good for the consumer.

yes, and who really gives a damn where our rulers are concerned. there will be plenty of words and false promises again when their green revolution comes. would be interesting how many of the green lefties would pay the extra green levy if they could opt out. cancelling that and VAT would certainly help.

The electricity market is a complete mess with massive historic failures by UK regulators, governments of both persuassions and EU interference since privatisation in 1991. There is a deliberate separation between generators and the companies that supply customers so all suppliers buy at market related prices ie Russian gas related prices. No account is taken of the average cost of producing electricity and the lower cost of renewables and nuclear. Whenever market prices fall new suppliers can come to the market. When prices rise some new suppliers fail. The extent of the rise in prices means that nearly all new entrants have gone bust. The only short term solution is for a windfall tax on energy companies (both gas producers and electricty generators and traders) to offest customer bills.

just wonder what benefits the man in the street has got with the privatisation of electricity or the railways and buses as well. all i can see is a worst service and more expensive as well.

I didn’t need a car until the buses were privatised, the fares shot up on a far too regular basis and timetables and regular routes buggered up.... needed a car within a year of them being took over. Turned that out if you had kids a taxi was cheaper.

when i worked on the buses in coventry i had an eleven mile journey each way to get there. only worked shifts that started after 10am so got the train every day. then privatisation came in and knocked off the last two trains at night that were quite busy especially at weekends or something on at the NEC. in the end i had to buy a little diesel car to commute as my other was too thirsty and impractical for the job. only time my lad ever has gone on a bus is when he takes one out for a test after repairing it.

It's a plug in and charge up world we live in now..no mobiles,x-box's around back in the early 70's when you came home from school to candles and torches during the power strikes eh snowy.

Happy days... did me courting then...our lass got a shock when the lights came back on.

Just got Council Tax bill.

No £150 rebate on bill.
Just a HM Goverment notice saying Your Council will confirm how the rebate will be paid to you.
Rebate should of been on the Bill.

Probably get the same shit in October with this £200 energy loan. But im sure they wont delay in takeing the repayments back of us.

New health tax kicks in next month.
New covid variant out.
World war3
Happy Days
UTP.

It's not on the bill. It goes into your bank account.

Only if u pay by DDebit.
So will drag on for a while.

Utility Companies inflate monthly Direct Debit payments, try getting it back.
Oil giant BP has 'more cash than we know what to do with' after almost £10bn profits !

Yep, I hate this monthly DD thing. You always overpay, and you have to watch them like a hawk. I don’t want a savings account, just give me the bill.

Better to open a Savings Account and pay a set amount of money into each month, at least you have access to the money

Like trips to the moon what is the point of smart meters? They get to monitor your usage and movements and sack all the meter readers, saving loads of dosh in wages and what do you get in return ... a little screen that tells you how much energy you’re using, Big deal!

I heard its for info for the electric generators to gauge demand and basically switch power station on or off (or reduce generation) to prevent waste.
Can't really store electric.
May be wrong here but it's what I was told?

Living off the bones of ones arse..origins anybody?.snowy??

Can you rephrase that Mr S....?

Overall it’s costing over £12 billion to instal Smart Meters which is being added to your bills, I moved supplier, the Smsrt Meter wasn’t compatible with the new suppliers software.
I believe none of the current energy suppliers are U.K. owned like the railways, a certain former PM thought it would be good for us all to own some shares in them. The big players stepped in bought loads of shares on the open market and the rest is history.

The bus ‘deregulation’ of the mid 80’s was a prime example of that line of thought. Order(ie regulation) was ended and chaos ensued as the sharks moved in all in the name of competition to supposedly benefit the bus users....result, a monopoly after the big fish ate the competition and any thought of challenging them was commercial suicide, the result locally?....... a monopoly for one particular big feeder and a worse service.

If the price iof you bill has gone up by 50 per cent then the government if getting an extra 5 per cent of vat on that increase. Can I have it back please?

No.

Meanwhile, according to Martin Lewis, if you’re on one of those pre buy fuel schemes where you pay up front, you can top up before the big price rise. If finances allow it would be well worth bunging some proper money into this to give yourself a saving.

Ps. All firms except Scottish Power.

Per ML take and submit a meter reading Ion 31st March.

Good Morning n welcome to our new extortion of inflation.
Tax rises galore kicking in.
Rising pub prices.
Council tax up.
Energy bills up
Health tax kicks in next week.
Food up.
This is not an Aprils Fool post.
Anyone heard when they getting there c tax rebate.

No one has actually explained the reason behind this big hike in prices, is it fuel price rises or some self flagellating cave in to the yoghurt knitters to pay for their renewable fantasies?

Just read September 30th is the deadline Councils have to dish out the rebates to us on non DDebit.
And DDebit payers to start getting rebates from May.
Probably a big cue to get in Civic Centre in September.

He also said its actually cheaper paying by Direct Debit.
You pay more just paying a monthly bill.

will the first person in the building make sure the lights are out.

Today, after 6 days of the new rates, I have compared my Gas & Elec usage versus that of the same 6 day period last year with some worrying issues.
Gas 2021 = £6.29 against 2022 of £17.70
Elec 2021 = £9.68 against 2022 of £18.98
2021 total of £15.97 against 2022 total of £36.68

This is a massive increase of 129.7% when the Martin Lewis's of this world keep saying increases of just over 50%.

And we expect further increases in October.

Anyone got any answers?

I was paying £84 in January, got a letter from my supplier today raising it to £225.
Can someone explain the basis for these lunatic increases, surely not the price of gas on world markets, but tell me it’s not to fund more green fantasy’s.

People don't get up in arms about sky high bills/costs rises these days and the large businesses and governments know this, hence they can basically do what they want unopposed. Protesters and whistleblowers are victimised and marginalised, your expected to do as you are told and get on with it. It will only get worse.
Best advice I can give is...watch less television, put an extra jumper on, use a blanket to keep your legs warm, be more inventive in your cooking techniques, go to bed earlier, use less lighting, walk or cycle to your local amenities, exercise more (it warms your body up), drink less hot drinks, read more, don't iron anything that doesn't require it, spend less time in the shower, eat less hot meals, car share etc etc.
Oh and complain more to the people who can use their powers to do something about it, like your local MP or Councillors.

Never pay bills by DD if you have a choice.
Thats were the Energy companys take the piss.
Looks like ive dodged a bullet refusing a smart meter n DD
That way you only pay for what gas/elec you use every 3 months.
Old fashioned method but a lot cheaper in the long run.

I just want to know what the increase is for, it’s not fuel costs so why, because if it’s to finance some green agenda I will not be happy.
The whole world of politics is governed by the opinions of a tiny group unelected opinionated. goons on Twitter and their reaction to events..... it’s lunacy.

totally sick to death of all greenies, vegans and the food police, trans lot. have your opinions but i do not want em rammed down my throat night and day. get the impression rightly or wrongly that these peoples opinions seem to be worth far more than those with no interests in their agendas. the majority seem to be the reactionary ones with the words gammon and brexiteer or even racist or sexist thrown at you.

It’s as though those in charge are more concerned about humouring adolescent fuckwits and middle class gobshites than the other 99% of society.