of season 2021/22 being stopped by World War 3?

On the evidence of his TV performance yesterday, Putin is now as mad as a box of frogs.

Good man to have in charge of the world's second biggest nuclear arsenal.

I know like we havnt been through enough the last 2 years

Looking at Putin now, has he put the beef on or is he turning Chinese....?

be a stand in or a Clone - Stockport have asked about the tech so they can clone DC incase he buggers off to the middle east to coach Al Hilal

You can have the Prince Philip commemorative award for that one.

The last time I saw a face like that was a seal pup who’d jammed it’s head in a nylon gasket ring ... the pup survived

Is that Al Hilalport County.....?

Dover Athletic will be sending death threats to Russia as we speak!

He has gathered a huge band of troops and tonnes of equipment virtually in one place. Will there ever be a better chance to wipe it out.
Churchill said at the time of the German surrender that we shouldn't leave it there but carry on straight through Russia.
Might have he been right????

Wouldn’t it be ironic if Putin buggered up Stockport’s season

Putin having a face that looks like he's wearing a stocking mask suits him - nowt but a gangster anyway.

He is bloody dangerous and needs taking out. According to reports he has got rid of his advisors and is working on his own. He is acting like he doesn't give a toss about the circumstances he is creating. If there is going to be a major conflict the West needs to be pro active and not re active like we usually are.

this would be awesome

as the West do you mean all the western nations and not just USA and us which is the usual case in stuff like this.

Putin is an ex KGB Colonel, I suspect they remain one for life.

at least putin's facial surgery has left him looking half human ...demented joe on the other hand .....looks like he died..... and was then cosmetically rebuilt...as someone once said...."we can rebuild him ...we have the technology"...

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15595866/ ... rocedures/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93IDp6wkZZE

Yes all of them.

They think they do, yes. Older ex members actually walk around Russian and ex soviet towns wearing full military or police gear, looking for young people or unsuspecting tourists to annoy or intimidate.

In fact some Russian people believe the USSR still exists, and that the dissolution of it was all a lie and that Russia is currently a rogue state.

Reading Oleg Gordievsky’s biography ( recommend it ) and surprising how it seemed like a family business...if your father was in, you were, truly a closed career opportunity depending on your background, but once in, it had perks the ordinary folk could only dream of.

Yeah, start a major conflict with a nuclear power over a border dispute on the other side of the continent. Smart.

At worst it's going to be a proxy war like every other post 1945 tiff between the big boys. We're all run by bloodthirsty psychopaths, but even they know how it ends if they directly engage each other.

He mocked England fans getting battered at Euro 2016,says a lot about fella eh.

There’ll be no war over this, it’s all about chest beating by Putin. He can see the West is as soft as clarts, more obsessed over social trivia than power and he’s taking advantage.
He wants a Ukraine friendly to Russia with a puppet government, like Belarus and not allowed to join NATO. It also sends a message to the EU over any idea of pressing further East which they’ve been pushing for years....the Russians like buffers between themselves and potential enemies from past experience and these are the only buffers left to secure.

I think Putin is capable of pressing the big button regardless of who starts it.

And if he does, he better pray whatever he hits isn't owned by a country with nuclear submarines. Because Moscow will be a trinitite carpark within a few hours. Which is why that didn't happen in the 50s, or 60s, or 70s, or 80s.

Putin just likes aggro
Hes a bully gangster with an ego to match the vastness of fuck all that lies within his boarders. Be much better if matchroom could organise a fisy cuffs between him and an owld Bozza. Will end with Ukraine body bags scattering the front pages of the press. Then the US will flex its mightyness and all will go back to a shit storm
Of digital warfare

Heard a Russian diplomat on the radio just laugh when asked about the effect of the sanctions Boris has announced. A few individuals and 3 small banks its a joke he said.

http://streambee.to/c/football/england- ... ool-utd/2/

Few annoying adverts to get by then works fine

If someone wants to delete this wrong place

Unless he hits up to ten European cities at once. He is a madman, whereas the Western leaders will traditionally hold back and then we are at a point of no return.
Waiting to see what he is going to do is a gamble and gives him the high ground.
He is a cancer that needs the remedial knife.

It’s not called M.A.D. for nothing...’mutually assured destruction. No one can win a nuclear war.

He can hit as many cities as he wants, he's still getting a nuke back. Can't say for certain where our subs are but one's definitely not parked in the middle of Frankfurt.

What do you propose we do? Declare total war on Russia immediately?

Forget the nuclear cobblers. This is also a reflection / distraction on Putin’s domestic popularity at home, a little local war does wonders to distract public opinion, as long as you can contain it.

It's hardly a 'border dispute' - Putin is on record as saying Ukraine (44 million people) has no right to be an independent country and his goal is to reabsorb it into his empire chunk by chunk. That wouldn't be the end of his ambitions either - he's already had a bite out of Georgia and turned Belarus into a puppet regime like 'independent' Donetsk and Luhansk.

Nice bit of false equivalence putting Boris and Biden on a par with Putin btw. Johnson is a lot of things, notably a big fat liar, but not even his ex-wives have accused him of being a bloodthirsty psychopath

A conversation.....

Secretary.....’A phone call for you Mr President’

Vlad.... ‘Who is it?’

Secretary....’ Someone called Dave !’.

Vlad .....’Hello, I am the President, who are you, how can I help you.’

Dave....’ Listen mate, if you start a war and football is cancelled there’ll be hell to pay”

Vlad.....’Enlighten mr Mr Dave’.

Dave.... ‘My team will be crowned Champions soon and if the season is cancelled it won’t count. This could result in a state of war between us and you and we’ve got the financial clout, so think on.’

Vlad......’ How many armoured divisions and strike aircraft do you possess?’

Dave......’ Eh?... how many season ticket holders have you got?’

Vlad......’ The seasons not over till the fat lady sings comrade so who says you’ll be champions....I study the National League and you are starting to run out of steam so cut the bullshit comrade.’

Dave.....’ You’ve been warned, think on’.

Vlad ....’I think I see my next target....Stopcockia’.

really its a case of not just putin but many in russia who would love to go back to the days of the USSR again where it could put the country into an even stronger position again. always need to understand your enemy and find his true and full motives.

Snowy, man. Just let it lie !!

Fuckoffski

How many did we kill in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, etc? Did politicians lie to drag us into those conflicts? What did they achieve? Why are we fine tooling the Saudis up to give Yemen a pasting? And most importantly, why do people have it in their heads that we're led by people insane enough to declare war over what's happening in Ukraine?

If Putin attacks a NATO country, it's WW3. No way around that, everyone's bound by treaty, it's as clear cut as you can get. He's not stupid enough to do that. However, he doesn't want NATO on his borders. He's stuck with the Balkans and Norway, Russians have probably learned their lesson in Finland, but he can push into Ukraine a fair bit and face nothing but sanctions.

It's a proxy war, it'll only ever be proxy wars. Thank god for nukes or we'd have had WW3 in the 60s.

The Baltic states are all in NATO as well now.
Without nukes we’d have had WW3 by 1950.

So Mr Ziggy what exactly would you do??? We've had your opposing thoughts what are your proposing ones. Would you organise an emergency meeting of NATO and present Ukraine with membership? Would you just give in to all Putin's demands or would you just turn a blind eye??
Do you think the sanctions being imposed by our bloodthirsty psychopathic leaders (your description) are the answer???
I wait in eager anticipation.

I've already had my call up papers!

Here you go.................

The Tory party is hugely funded by Russian oligarchs and people with close ties to Putin.
Sanctions are very limited.
Boris the lying twat is sailing far too close to the wind with this corruption.
He's really out of his depth and in a whole lot more shit than he can cope with.

Damn that Huntingdon-Smythe. His father was bounder too

The level of sanctions have been agreed to go up on a sliding scale by all Party’s at the security conference today. So every country is singing from the same hymn sheet and not just Boris. Sorry to ruin a good theory, but the facts are what they are.

You do realise some people won’t have got past the first line and started frothing at the mouth.....

Rushing Ukraine into NATO would be a bad move, may as well just directly declare war on Russia.

If we have to do something: arm the christ out of the Ukranians and any subsequent insurgency. Sanction Russia as much as possible, leave it at that.

Nothing else we can do tbh.

Putin said at the press conference that Ukraine should not have been allowed to accede from Russia and claimed that the Communist Party had built up the country and apparently he wants it back. He doesn’t mention the great famine caused by Stalin in the Ukraine that killed millions in the 1930’s, or the fact that when the Germans invaded in 1941 they were welcomed by the Ukrainians, Hitler being as dumb as hell failed to take advantage.
The Ukrainians identify as Ukrainians .... What Putin is doing is a bit like the uk deciding we want India back, nonsense of course.

I don't agree with where you started but I agree with that. All the reports this morning suggest Putin thinks an all-out attack can bring about the rapid collapse of Ukrainian resistance and the fall of the current government. If that happens he'll have 'won' - assuming he thinks starting a new Cold War is winning. In the long run a new arms race will destroy Russia's economy and bring about regime change just like it did in the 1980s.

If the Ukrainians fight back effectively, armed by the West - and show no signs of giving up, ever - he'll find himself in a long war with a lot of dead and maimed Russians as happened in Afghanistan. No amount of state propaganda will keep the Russian people happy with that situation for long.

My worry is the threat by Putin where he says any interference will be met by immediate response and that response will have consequences beyond what the world has ever experienced ( or words to that effect)
What is he saying or threatening? Nuclear attacks? Or is he bluffing?
Until I'm convinced he is bluffing I am taking the line that this madman will press the big button and that he includes sanctions as interference.
So whatever he means by his threat, he will fulfil it.
We're backing a rat into a corner and most of the experts seem to think that eventually, as the sanctions bite, the Russian people will turn against him.
What will be his parting shot is the big question.

The EU could stop paying its gas bill. That would really impact on Russian finances. Oh they might cut off our supply - damn bounders.

We will do what we did when Russia invaded Czeckosolvakia and Poland - nothing of substance.