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the rink ends coming home........

https://www.hartlepoolunited.co.uk/news ... confirmed/


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I would imagine when we get to league One the Town End will become the Away Section.
With our vocal fans occupying the S/W Corner.
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town end seems to be slowly dying a death so its a good move. being standing only i thought clubs had to provide some seated accomodation for away fans though.


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Hoping this positive shift and open negotiating with the loyal fans of the NWC is a sign of things to come. Well done to who ever had the bottle to finally put things into motion to benefit the fans and the club. Imagine the town end be bouncing with away support on both games.


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Hoping this positive shift and open negotiating with the loyal fans of the NWC is a sign of things to come. Well done to who ever had the bottle to finally put things into motion to benefit the fans and the club. Imagine the town end be bouncing with away support on both games.


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The noise from the rink End will be terrific, The current hierarchy within the club have never heard the Rink End full of Poolies.

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Sounds like a good move.

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Good idea why not take the seats from Rink end to Town end and therfore rink end would be terracing as those from nwc seem to prefer standing therefore doing away with safety issues that were the startof these problems.


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Did anyone ask town end season ticket holders if they wanted to move to the rink end for the blackpool game ? They chose the town end so they could stand & have a roof over their heads.


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I would much prefer to be in the rink end as i remember the noise generated was brilliant and at least you will have some shelter from the north easterly winds. :uhoh:

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I can remember a game v Hereford about 1984.
Think it was 2 2 with 3000 crowd.
The referee saying it was a great game to ref because it sounded like there was 10000 in the ground.
Some great noise in the Rink End back in the day.
Hopefully these 2 experiment games go well and something can be sorted for future games.
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Did anyone ask town end season ticket holders if they wanted to move to the rink end for the blackpool game ? They chose the town end so they could stand & have a roof over their heads.


There are no season ticket holders for cup games. All the season ticket does is give a ST holder first dibs on the available home tickets and they are getting that. A seated ST holder gets first dibs on his ST seat if that seat is available to home supporters and if not gets first dibs on the alternative. Same applies to standing areas.
A lot of ground configurations are altered for cup games because of rules on the home/away ticket allocation rule, which is why we got 10,000 tickets for the Stadium of light clash with Sunderland.
The town end holds 1599, so the club is looking to maximise revenue from the cup games where it can, as well as experimenting in giving back the rink end to home fans which there is a demand for. To clubs like Pools a cup run is lifeblood and we have to get as much as we can.

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I remember the rinkend back in the 70’s & 80’s, it will NEVER be able to reproduce or better the noise & visual spectacle of the NWC, the rinkend is tiny, acoustics are not there & the visual element will look garbage bordering on embarrassing in comparison to the NWC, leaving the team to be ‘out supported’ by the visiting teams much bigger & better support in the town end…. Terrible idea


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At the end of the day we need to start maximising support against well supported teams, it's no good us saying we can't afford players, but in the same hand turning down the chance to get another 600 in. Obviously we need a much bigger rink end which I'm sure is what part of this redevelopment is about, then maybe fans can stay in the town end too.


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Being a season ticket holder I know about applying for cup tickets, I just think a town end season ticket holder would want to be in the town end for a cup game, it’s that persons preferred way of watching a game.
What did we do when we played stoke city & West Ham In cup games? Seems a long time ago.


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At the end of the day an atmosphere in the ground has pulled in crowds of nearly 6000 for games against, Harrogate and Forrest Green, along with exciting football, everything possible should be done to keep that atmosphere, especially after watching two turgid performances under Graeme Lee. It looks like the rink end will be split for home matches against teams with poor support.


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It’s a great move by the Club in my opinion. Typical of people on the likes of Facebook and Twitter whinging for the sake of whinging! Looking forward to hearing a racket for the two cup games and hopefully it acts as good motivation for the players to get us through and earn some added revenue for the Club.


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I inhabited the Rink End for many, many years - often doing the half time change - and then Gibson seated it. But my memories are of lots of noise and, usually, turgid football. Not sure that I understand the 'romance' of the return of the Rink End but I'll go with it - so long as it doesn't mean a return to the days when, by comparison, Roy Hogan looked a quality player.


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Brian Honour's Left Foot wrote:
I inhabited the Rink End for many, many years - often doing the half time change - and then Gibson seated it. But my memories are of lots of noise and, usually, turgid football. Not sure that I understand the 'romance' of the return of the Rink End but I'll go with it - so long as it doesn't mean a return to the days when, by comparison, Roy Hogan looked a quality player.


Roy was class with a bit of mud on the pitch - it slowed the game down to his natural pace :lol:


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I was once told - by a former Pools player - that Roy was actually good - and that all of his misplaced passes were because he was seeing moves that his colleagues couldn't.


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[quote="thomas1974"]Being a season ticket holder I know about applying for cup tickets, I just think a town end season ticket holder would want to be in the town end for a cup game, it’s that persons preferred way of watching a game.


it's not just that, people normally stand with people they know, and by and large all got older with! we all stand in a certain part of the Town End have done for years.

Used to do the half time shuffle, when you could walk between both ends, crowd permitting, with let's face it was most of the time back then.

like you say that's were we like to watch the game, and listen to the patter from our fellow supporters, in the area we stand.

I don't understand this 'New romance' of the Rink End, once Gibson put seats in it, it killed it.

which brings me onto putting the NWC in blocks A and B, seems crackers to me, when I stood in the Rink End when I was younger, where talking Bob Newton et al. I wanted to be behind the goal not off to the left or right of it.

I can't see the view for blocks A and B being very good?

I wont be bothering with them games now, I cant be arsed to stand in the Millhouse with no cover in January, and I don't want the hassle of getting a ticket for a seat to find someone sat where I'm supposed to be,but will not move, and I really can't be arsed to try having a conversation around that , as anyone who seats in a seat that they don't have the ticket for is a TWAT or TWATESS. :laugh:


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thedno wrote:
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Being a season ticket holder I know about applying for cup tickets, I just think a town end season ticket holder would want to be in the town end for a cup game, it’s that persons preferred way of watching a game.


it's not just that, people normally stand with people they know, and by and large all got older with! we all stand in a certain part of the Town End have done for years.

Used to do the half time shuffle, when you could walk between both ends, crowd permitting, with let's face it was most of the time back then.

like you say that's were we like to watch the game, and listen to the patter from our fellow supporters, in the area we stand.

I don't understand this 'New romance' of the Rink End, once Gibson put seats in it, it killed it.

which brings me onto putting the NWC in blocks A and B, seems crackers to me, when I stood in the Rink End when I was younger, where talking Bob Newton et al. I wanted to be behind the goal not off to the left or right of it.

I can't see the view for blocks A and B being very good?

I wont be bothering with them games now, I cant be arsed to stand in the Millhouse with no cover in January, and I don't want the hassle of getting a ticket for a seat to find someone sat where I'm supposed to be,but will not move, and I really can't be arsed to try having a conversation around that , as anyone who seats in a seat that they don't have the ticket for is a TWAT or TWATESS. :laugh:

You would not of been behind the goal for the Bolton game anyway, it's for one game, one game. Now on the small chance Blackpool bring 1600 it may help us attract another Boro under 23 to us, with the extra money.


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Rinkender? I can never see that word without smiling.

Back in the day (the eighties?) when the Hartlepool Mail and the Footy Mail would allow letters to be published anonymously, one of the nom de plumes used was Rink Ender ... that is until they published a letter from Pink Ender! Was someone having a larf?

Other classics were:
In the obituaries sadly missed became sadly pissed. Funny to all except the poor family and...
In the winners of local football competitions Harbour of Refuge became Harbour of Refuse.

Pink Ender comes first tho'


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
thedno wrote:
thomas1974 wrote:
Being a season ticket holder I know about applying for cup tickets, I just think a town end season ticket holder would want to be in the town end for a cup game, it’s that persons preferred way of watching a game.


it's not just that, people normally stand with people they know, and by and large all got older with! we all stand in a certain part of the Town End have done for years.

Used to do the half time shuffle, when you could walk between both ends, crowd permitting, with let's face it was most of the time back then.

like you say that's were we like to watch the game, and listen to the patter from our fellow supporters, in the area we stand.

I don't understand this 'New romance' of the Rink End, once Gibson put seats in it, it killed it.

which brings me onto putting the NWC in blocks A and B, seems crackers to me, when I stood in the Rink End when I was younger, where talking Bob Newton et al. I wanted to be behind the goal not off to the left or right of it.

I can't see the view for blocks A and B being very good?

I wont be bothering with them games now, I cant be arsed to stand in the Millhouse with no cover in January, and I don't want the hassle of getting a ticket for a seat to find someone sat where I'm supposed to be,but will not move, and I really can't be arsed to try having a conversation around that , as anyone who seats in a seat that they don't have the ticket for is a TWAT or TWATESS. :laugh:

You would not of been behind the goal for the Bolton game anyway, it's for one game, one game. Now on the small chance Blackpool bring 1600 it may help us attract another Boro under 23 to us, with the extra money.


Dear billingham poolie , I can't understand how my post relates, to your reply? sctatchinghead


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thedno wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
thedno wrote:
thomas1974 wrote:
Being a season ticket holder I know about applying for cup tickets, I just think a town end season ticket holder would want to be in the town end for a cup game, it’s that persons preferred way of watching a game.


it's not just that, people normally stand with people they know, and by and large all got older with! we all stand in a certain part of the Town End have done for years.

Used to do the half time shuffle, when you could walk between both ends, crowd permitting, with let's face it was most of the time back then.

like you say that's were we like to watch the game, and listen to the patter from our fellow supporters, in the area we stand.

I don't understand this 'New romance' of the Rink End, once Gibson put seats in it, it killed it.

which brings me onto putting the NWC in blocks A and B, seems crackers to me, when I stood in the Rink End when I was younger, where talking Bob Newton et al. I wanted to be behind the goal not off to the left or right of it.

I can't see the view for blocks A and B being very good?

I wont be bothering with them games now, I cant be arsed to stand in the Millhouse with no cover in January, and I don't want the hassle of getting a ticket for a seat to find someone sat where I'm supposed to be,but will not move, and I really can't be arsed to try having a conversation around that , as anyone who seats in a seat that they don't have the ticket for is a TWAT or TWATESS. :laugh:

You would not of been behind the goal for the Bolton game anyway, it's for one game, one game. Now on the small chance Blackpool bring 1600 it may help us attract another Boro under 23 to us, with the extra money.


Dear billingham poolie , I can't understand how my post relates, to your reply? sctatchinghead

You are going on like it's some major thing, it's for just one game mate. Surely you have bigger concerns than losing your spot for the Blackpool game? e g the talk already of using Boro for players, this cheap option that worked so well as we plummeted into non league last time, an inexperienced manager who's style of play in the first two games at home have been nothing short of dull to watch. The town end will be back to pools fans for the home game after Blackpool so its more of an inconvenience than anything.


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
thedno wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
thedno wrote:
thomas1974 wrote:
Being a season ticket holder I know about applying for cup tickets, I just think a town end season ticket holder would want to be in the town end for a cup game, it’s that persons preferred way of watching a game.


it's not just that, people normally stand with people they know, and by and large all got older with! we all stand in a certain part of the Town End have done for years.

Used to do the half time shuffle, when you could walk between both ends, crowd permitting, with let's face it was most of the time back then.

like you say that's were we like to watch the game, and listen to the patter from our fellow supporters, in the area we stand.

I don't understand this 'New romance' of the Rink End, once Gibson put seats in it, it killed it.

which brings me onto putting the NWC in blocks A and B, seems crackers to me, when I stood in the Rink End when I was younger, where talking Bob Newton et al. I wanted to be behind the goal not off to the left or right of it.

I can't see the view for blocks A and B being very good?

I wont be bothering with them games now, I cant be arsed to stand in the Millhouse with no cover in January, and I don't want the hassle of getting a ticket for a seat to find someone sat where I'm supposed to be,but will not move, and I really can't be arsed to try having a conversation around that , as anyone who seats in a seat that they don't have the ticket for is a TWAT or TWATESS. :laugh:

You would not of been behind the goal for the Bolton game anyway, it's for one game, one game. Now on the small chance Blackpool bring 1600 it may help us attract another Boro under 23 to us, with the extra money.


Dear billingham poolie , I can't understand how my post relates, to your reply? sctatchinghead

You are going on like it's some major thing, it's for just one game mate. Surely you have bigger concerns than losing your spot for the Blackpool game? e g the talk already of using Boro for players, this cheap option that worked so well as we plummeted into non league last time, an inexperienced manager who's style of play in the first two games at home have been nothing short of dull to watch. The town end will be back to pools fans for the home game after Blackpool so its more of an inconvenience than anything.


Oh dear mate, I am not in the least bit bothered about not been in the town end, found your post quite enlightening ..as I agree with what you are saying are we going turn into Boro reserves I hope not . it's strangehow things can be interpreted sometimes. UTP.


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I don't understand the nostalgia about the Rink End. It has seats now and if you want a terrace with a tin roof behind a goal... we already have one with a better view and we don't have to spend money removing seats and putting barriers back up.

I've stood in the Rink End for some belting games but it was the fans and what happened on the pitch that made the atmosphere, not the bricks and mortar.


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I was once told - by a former Pools player - that Roy was actually good - and that all of his misplaced passes were because he was seeing moves that his colleagues couldn't.

His style of play role model was Massey Ferguson.

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I was once told - by a former Pools player - that Roy was actually good - and that all of his misplaced passes were because he was seeing moves that his colleagues couldn't.

His style of play role model was Massey Ferguson.


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: well the pitch usually looked like a ploughed field.


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But the hairstyle.............


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But the hairstyle.............


Elvis wind swept look.


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His ‘hairstyle’ can safely be described as bouffant haystack...with a generous spraying of ‘Cossack’ to dampen down movement.
Head contact with it could prove fatal.

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Regarding the Rink End, it’s been getting on for 30 years since it was terracing and even a ten year old would be in their 40’s. It’s a nice nostalgic thought but noise wise a full Town End can be just as noisy.....
The Rink End was also a twat of a place on a sunny day, after squinting for nearly two hours we came away like Japanese bomber pilots fresh from Pearl Harbour.

A footnote...remember the cry of ‘You’ll never take the Rink End’... well nobody ever did, but with some of the crowds we got, it wouldn’t have been too difficult if they’d wanted to.

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"you ll never take the rink end".......yeah.......that brings back some memories.....normally followed by chants of......"we took the tin shed..... eazeeeeeee".......on roys hair.... personally thought it had a bit of a mungo look about it....

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A footnote...remember the cry of ‘You’ll never take the Rink End’... well nobody ever did, but with some of the crowds we got, it wouldn’t have been too difficult if they’d wanted to.

well i wish the bulldozers would and re develop it as it looks well past its sell date for me and is the worst part of the ground. with sears in it that many will tefuse to use it will just give the club another health and safety problem plus pissing some off that actually want to sit.


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Regarding the Rink End, it’s been getting on for 30 years since it was terracing and even a ten year old would be in their 40’s. It’s a nice nostalgic thought but noise wise a full Town End can be just as noisy.....
The Rink End was also a twat of a place on a sunny day, after squinting for nearly two hours we came away like Japanese bomber pilots fresh from Pearl Harbour.

A footnote...remember the cry of ‘You’ll never take the Rink End’... well nobody ever did, but with some of the crowds we got, it wouldn’t have been too difficult if they’d wanted to.

No matter how noisy the town end is you can't hear it in the nwc, the acoustics are terrible. the rink end is probobly the first stand to be developed if redevelopment ever happens. The club are just trying to keep the atmosphere going really until that day.


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billingham.......couldnt agree more about the town end......suspect the design is the reason somehow...the noise seems to be directed upwards out into the atmosphere rather than into the rest of the stadium.....always reminded me of darlos tin shed on a bigger scale....the rink end is the total opposite......few hundred in there sound like a few thousand....we will see what develops from this little experiment...full marks to the NWC and the club for trying this out.... clappp


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Not being funny lads, but it’s a tin stand, as for the ‘acoustics’, it’s a footy match, not Abbey Road studios. I doubt there are many acoustic engineers taking calibrated readings during the match ...in fact they never have. Most people making a noise can only hear the noise generated around them and that’s what spurs them on.

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Not being funny lads, but it’s a tin stand, as for the ‘acoustics’, it’s a footy match, not Abbey Road studios. I doubt there are many acoustic engineers taking calibrated readings during the match ...in fact they never have. Most people making a noise can only hear the noise generated around them and that’s what spurs them on.

The atmosphere though is one of the reason hundreds of kids have started coming to pools, extra money in the bank, they want to be part of it, lose that and we will be back down to 3500 playing drab football with no atmosphere.


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Not disagreeing with you...but the average kid/teenager will not spot the difference in acoustic quality, it’s the atmosphere of the crowd around them that excites them and it can be achieved.
Don’t forget, the NWC has no ends enclosed, so any acoustic quality is a myth... it’s the atmosphere and numbers concentrated in a restricted space that achieves the effect.

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for many years..... before NWC .......most of the noise of the crowd around me in the mill house consisted of a lot of old gits whining... and moaning..... and shouting abuse at the players......now everyone wants to see the vic rocking and get behind the team......its just a case of how best to pump it up.......

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oh...whatever happened to that tin shed.....?? :laugh:

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poolie1 wrote:
for many years..... before NWC .......most of the noise of the crowd around me in the mill house consisted of a lot of old gits whining... and moaning..... and shouting abuse at the players......now everyone wants to see the vic rocking and get behind the team......its just a case of how best to pump it up.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y71iDvCYXA


I swear some of the loudest gobshites in the Millhouse have stopped coming to games, or maybe moved to another part of the ground, now that it's too noisy for others to hear them sounding off.


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Snowy wrote:
Not being funny lads, but it’s a tin stand, as for the ‘acoustics’, it’s a footy match, not Abbey Road studios. I doubt there are many acoustic engineers taking calibrated readings during the match ...in fact they never have. Most people making a noise can only hear the noise generated around them and that’s what spurs them on.

true, but it spurs on the rest of the ground though. The noise from the NWC gors all around the ground and my other half can hear it in the far end of morrisons car park. the rink end even with plenty of carlisle fans in it hardly seemed to come into the main stand near the tunnel area.


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The rink end is & always was…. Shite


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thankgoodness there are others who feel the same. thought i was on my own as it would be the last part of the vic i would frequent. rather get wet standing in the mill house. i,d be dry once i eventually got home even if the dogs complained about drying out human smell.


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saturday afternoon....8/1/22.....bring on the fa cup and blackpool....this is where all the action will be.....spot gibsons directors box ?

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