Pools v Rochdale predictions

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12366

kebab & chips wrote:

derwent wrote:

Last night's tactics could be the reason Sweeney is contemplating whether he wants to be a part of the "new team". If the rumours have any sort of foundation that is.
Hoofball, conceding possession, no pressing, no sign of any sort of passing game etc are not Sweeney's cup of tea.
Once or twice the players seemed to forget their "instructions" and strung a few passes together, as they are used to doing.
It looks like playing it out from the back has been frowned upon as well, which some would argue needed to be addressed.
The referee was atrocious. Wasn't he the one that played on at Bradford whilst Molyneux was laying motionless?????

So Sweeney is going to leave on last nights performance?
Yes it was poor, but at Lincoln we were excellent.
What if future performances are more like the Lincoln game.
And yes it was the same ref who let Bradford kick Mols all over.
Also turned down a stonewall pen when Grey was shoved over in the box.

I never said he was leaving, I said he could leave and I mentioned if the rumours were true that he was contemplating it tactics could be the reason. It's only a suggestion. The rumours could be total bollocks. Note......COULD be total bollocks.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12366

Grayhoundend wrote:

Regarding the tactics last night, seems some think teams should roll over for us.
Rochdale had lost only 5 games before last night, Propper mugs them.

And it has not taken long for the negative lot to start typing away.

Roll on saturday.

No one is suggesting anybody should roll over, stop making it up. Rochdale have mainly been getting draws and that's the way it was heading last night. They have only won five as well.
The only person describing Rochdale as proper mugs is you.
Personally I think they were the better team, others might disagree.
Opinions it's called.

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4451

I thought we did ok first half and should of been 1 up, Rochdale weren't great, second half we sat right off them and allowed them to pass it about with will. When we finally got into them a bit the last 10 minutes they didn't look that great. We won't beat many teams playing like last night though, let's hope it was just a one off and we get back to being on the front foot at home.

If someone had said we would win the last 3 games we probably would of laughed at it, so it's been a great week, apart from the nwc thing. You look at our fixtures coming up and we have a fantastic opportunity, to get on some sort of decent form going, a win Saturday would be a huge boost.

Yossarian · **Joined:** Sun Oct 28, 2007 5:29 pm **Posts:** 801

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

accrington fan wrote:

derwent wrote:

It looks like playing it out from the back has been frowned upon as well, which some would argue needed to be addressed.

but it never is playing out from the back even when teams insist on doing it. its just the keeper tapping it out to a defender and two square passes later it get hoofed upfield anyway that the keeper could have done in the first place. the ball would have come straight back anyway with so little height and muscle up front.

Whatever way we played last night it clearly didn't work, I dread to think what forrest green would of done to us playing like that. A win papers over the cracks, mind you I'd take the same outcome Saturday. We are a decent team on our day at home, let's be positive and show Scunthorpe we are, the way we respected Rochdale last night you would of thought they were top by 10 points, they weren't very good when you actually had a go at them.

No it clearly DID work. If you change your tactics after losing 5 on the bounce and then beat a team unbeaten in 8, that is unquestionably a success.

Ozzy Saltburn · **Joined:** Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:34 pm **Posts:** 3770

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

poolie1 wrote:

billingham...."we dont appear to be able to hold on to anything"......anything???......oh ...here we go again ....you mean your darling dave .......and his chums..... right??? yawn1

Manager, assistant, last year's players, physio, staff with years of experience, the list goes on Yes some have perfectly plausible reasons for wanting to leave, but don't even you find it strange that we seem to have a real problem holding onto anyone at the moment?

Ryan Donaldson turned down new contract offer to sign for Morpeth Town.
Money talks.

Donaldson was a permanent substitute all last season and even with new contract, his prospects of a regular place in the team this season were almost nil. Why spend the season warming the bench when he could get himself involved in a new project? Money is important but it is not the be all and end all.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37445

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

poolie1 wrote:

billingham...."we dont appear to be able to hold on to anything"......anything???......oh ...here we go again ....you mean your darling dave .......and his chums..... right??? yawn1

Manager, assistant, last year's players, physio, staff with years of experience, the list goes on Yes some have perfectly plausible reasons for wanting to leave, but don't even you find it strange that we seem to have a real problem holding onto anyone at the moment?

Who cares, if they don’t want be onboard .....let them go....... DC and his camp followers departure taught me a lesson, that commitment like contracts are remarkably ‘flexible’.....!

Ozzy Saltburn · **Joined:** Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:34 pm **Posts:** 3770

derwent wrote:

Grayhoundend wrote:

Regarding the tactics last night, seems some think teams should roll over for us.
Rochdale had lost only 5 games before last night, Propper mugs them.

And it has not taken long for the negative lot to start typing away.

Roll on saturday.

No one is suggesting anybody should roll over, stop making it up. Rochdale have mainly been getting draws and that's the way it was heading last night. They have only won five as well.
The only person describing Rochdale as proper mugs is you.
Personally I think they were the better team, others might disagree.
Opinions it's called.

Wasn't at the game so relying on highlights for my view but the Rochdale goal was quality: about five passes leading up to a a shot curled round the keeper.

RichyHpool · **Posted:** Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:53 pm

I thought Rochdale were quite a decent side,liked the look of that Odoh lad, couldn't believe they subbed him. Yes we didn't play particularly well but despite that we still found a way to win which has to be a positive. Crawford and Grey made a big difference purely due to their energy, we don't have a great deal of pace in the side and it shows a lot of the time.

I think we are a left sided centre half, an aggressive mobile midfielder and a striker away from being a good side. One last shout out for Killip, thought that was a good performance from him, one of the best I've seen him have.

Grayhoundend · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:13 pm **Posts:** 7495

Our tactics were spot on.

"If we are going to play the long ball stuff we need someone up front that can handle it."

Shelton, Was it 40,50 or 60 yd pass that was brought under control by Cullen with his first touch.
Cullen who actually has a tremendous leap for a player of his stature.

"We were lucky tonight, very lucky but I'll take it."

You obviously mean when Molls got through on goal and the defender cleared the ball away whilst on the floor.
Or when Shelton put the effort in to get the tap in at the death.
Or the great first touch from Cullen before he scored a brilliant goal.

"Last night's tactics could be the reason Sweeney is contemplating whether he wants to be a part of the "new team"

And you say i,m making it up.

Hoofball,pools
conceding possession,pools
no pressing,pools
no sign of any sort of passing game (apart from Shelton) or does that not count because its pools.

"Once or twice the players seemed to forget their "instructions" and strung a few passes together"

So Graham Lee instructed the players NOT pass to thier team mates so as to lose possession.

The referee was atrocious. Wasn't he the one that played on at Bradford whilst Molyneux was laying motionless?????

Well was he or wasen't he the ref, You seem to have all the answers.
Or maybe i,m just making it up.

Roll on Saturday

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12366

Grayhoundend wrote:

Our tactics were spot on.

"If we are going to play the long ball stuff we need someone up front that can handle it."

Shelton, Was it 40,50 or 60 yd pass that was brought under control by Cullen with his first touch.
Cullen who actually has a tremendous leap for a player of his stature.

"We were lucky tonight, very lucky but I'll take it."

You obviously mean when Molls got through on goal and the defender cleared the ball away whilst on the floor.
Or when Shelton put the effort in to get the tap in at the death.
Or the great first touch from Cullen before he scored a brilliant goal.

"Last night's tactics could be the reason Sweeney is contemplating whether he wants to be a part of the "new team"

And you say i,m making it up.

Hoofball,pools
conceding possession,pools
no pressing,pools
no sign of any sort of passing game (apart from Shelton) or does that not count because its pools.

"Once or twice the players seemed to forget their "instructions" and strung a few passes together"

So Graham Lee instructed the players NOT pass to thier team mates so as to lose possession.

The referee was atrocious. Wasn't he the one that played on at Bradford whilst Molyneux was laying motionless?????

Well was he or wasen't he the ref, You seem to have all the answers.
Or maybe i,m just making it up.

Roll on Saturday

I get the distinct feeling that you don't agree with me. :laugh:

Maybe you are making it up, as you say, only you know that.
However the bit I referred to as making it up was the bit where you said people where expecting Rochdale to roll over.
I can't find these people therefore I concluded that they are figments of your imagination and therefore made up.

Or maybe I'm just making it up.

On a serious note, It is my considered opinion, having watched the game that we got away with it last night and I am over the moon with the three points. If we hadn't there would be more than me muttering.

Roll on Saturday indeed. At least we can agree on that one.

RichyHpool · **Posted:** Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:37 pm

First season back at this level, in my eyes any win is a good win!

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12366

RichyHpool wrote:

First season back at this level, in my eyes any win is a good win!

Aye the sooner we get past 50 points the better.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 19738

derwent wrote:

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No one is suggesting anybody should roll over, stop making it up. Rochdale have mainly been getting draws and that's the way it was heading last night. They have only won five as well.
The only person describing Rochdale as proper mugs is you.
Personally I think they were the better team, others might disagree.
Opinions it's called.

all wednesday and possibly saturday may prove is how pointless loads of draws are. scunthorpe at the bottom have actually lost a game less than pools but have only won 2 of their games. if they had only won 3 of those draws they,d be in a similar position as the mighty rochdale.

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