Oh fuck off Raj

superb appointment !!!.....well done raj.......local lad.....ex poolie.... superb player for pools.... 200+ games....always gave 100% commitment ...will demand the same from his players......skillful central defender who could play striker too.....born leader.....went on to play for doncaster, sheff wed and others..... excellent knowledge of lower leagues....coaching badges and has been leading boro u23s....a winner and all round top bloke....someone we can in fact trust ....confident this man will do the business for us....i know he will give it everything he has......best of luck spike....

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we have lift off.....!!!!!!!.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ80DO5IUyw

Well that came out of the ferkin blue, but as always we get right behind our manager and the players! UTP NSD.

Good luck Spike. Raj giving a young manager a chance. Let's hope it's the beginning of a long and good career.

this has absolutely nothing to do with Raj giving a young manager a chance - he was quite easily the cheapest and only option left. Also the assistant wasnt even in work so that wasnt very hard was it. Genuinely thought with the severance package we received from the snake we would appoint an experienced decent manager. X-Mas ruined !

Erm... This.

Based on your huge knowledge of the recruitment process.

Good luck Graeme, although Nelse has some work to do to win me over, can't help remembering how he celebrated when scoring against us after leaving.

Thought this was anutha wind up till i checked the Mail.
Speechless.

Not what I was hoping for but will still back him and wish him all the best. Turnbull as HOR is vitally important leaving the coaches to focus on coaching.

One of the best centre halves I’ve seen play for Pools. Let’s hope he becomes one of the best managers we’ve had.

So boros u23 boss and a guy recently sacked

God is this the best we could do, really do not want to end up back in that god awful national league.

I wish Graeme the best but why take the chance on an inexperienced manager. We have great attendances, some extra cash from cup competitions and compensation from Challinor, but no ambition.

Yes Morecambe may have went up with a similar budget, but I bet a lot more have gone out the league in the other direction with a similar budget.

I'm absolutely gutted, similar to when we hired Colin cooper, didn't turn out very well, hopefully this time it may be a different outcome

It's becoming abundantly clear Mr Spokesman that you are obviously not as much in the know as you would have us believe. Can I suggest that you get off this horse you are riding and have a couple of strong words with yourself.
Can I also suggest that when you are in a position to take over and finance the club, at that moment you can appropriately suggest that the chairman should depart the scene in sexual jerky movements.

If this all about money then being relegated is the least of our fears, because if we go down again I would say we will never be a league club again in my life time ☹

Just listened to the interview on the OS & he said everything you'd expect to hear - not surprisingly.
If he manages anything like he played, we can expect a whole hearted effort & that goes for Nelse too. Let's get behind the pair of them from the start.
Brad Jones & Nathan Wood come January, anybody ?

Deffo gone the cheap route but not necessarily the wrong route.
Got the prayer mat out that this works out.
Any News on contracts.
Im guessing till end of next seaon.
UTP.

only time is going to tell. what a person did as a player is no reflection on how they will do as a manager. i,ll give him my support as i have no other option. suppose it could have been better or worse. we will find out i,m sure.

"It was always the view that we wanted to appoint a Manager and coaching team that was modern in their approach, with the capability to build on foundations that have been put in place over recent years.”

"Graeme and Michael also know this level of football remarkably well having captained various sides in the Football league, they are natural leaders and both have a deep connection with our club having played nearly 500 games for Hartlepool United between them.”

"I have great confidence that their commitment and work ethic will be second to none and I felt it was critical that we have people in the building who want to go the journey with us, to really unlock this club’s full potential.”

absolutely spot on raj.......

We are where are.
Not what I expected, but we get behind them, we have no choice.
We may be disappointed or pleasantly surprised, who knows, but whining won’t achieve anything.at this point, it”s time to pull together, not standing on the sidelines sniping.

What I expect from those two is the commitment they will demand from everybody they toss the shirt at, plus the noble art of defending in an organised and effective manner, especially set pieces. Sweens will organise the attacking side of the equation.
Commitment is embedded in those three and they will expect and get every ounce of it from the players they pick.
My first reaction was "what" but I am now warming to the idea and they know what the fans want and expect more than most. These could be the last pieces in the jigsaw.
I wish this holy trinity all the very best and assure them of my backing.
We've come a fair way since the dark days of Coxhall et al but I have a feeling it hasn't stopped yet.
We can expect the very best of commitment, focus and determination tonight and on Saturday as the players attempt to impress the new team in charge. If they don't give it, they won't be here long, you can be sure of that.

Give it a try yourself,

Aslong as a few of the better U23 Boro players follow on loan in Jan then it will slightly take the burden off such a disappointing appointment (s). Actually more excited we have an actual experienced HOR. Turnbull may have the contacts we just need to bring in those better players. Who was actually doing that job in the DC Era ? was it the interim director of footballs job or did DC and joe do it all ? or did Raj lol

no excuse for defensive errors now surely - lets hope they cement that down first and watch back some of the games and do some analysis on what needs fixing. Definitely set pieces are the first. Plus i hope they give the lads a kick up the ass too. Feel like DC had them disciplined more, since his departure we have gone soft.

anyways lets see how December pans out and hope for recruitment on a mega scale come Jan. Because either way the lads we have now need to do a job and impress the new management. This i hope spurns them on enough to least get 6 points out the next 2 league games. Imagine we get a result tonight it would actually add some confidence to the new managers first game in charge also. UTFP !

This is obviously April1st, I will give it a few hours before the real manager is unveiled.

Will all the Dicky Dosh lot above calm down and think this through.

Spike, Who we all know and respect, Who will spot a the dead weight.

Recruitment looks pretty good, Not a novice( most important)

If Spike follows in his dads (Tony) footsteps we will be fine.

I hope you are right about the next two league games Mr E but six points is the best we can expect, never mind the least. Scunthorpe have a potential new manager bounce and actually won a game the other day, whereas Rochdale are unbeaten in the last six league games and are above us in the table. It's nowhere near the given that some fans are expecting. Love to see it like.

Will i wish raj would as well. My toilets blocked so it must be his fault somewhere down the line.

Same question as I have asked everyone, who would your choice have been taking into account the financial restraints Pools have ?

Check out both of their managerial records then come back to me and be positive. Between the pair of them they have won 9 games of football in 46 matches I think it was, let's not beat around the bush this has disaster written all over it, especially when we are in free fall.

So raj last season we fail to hold onto hardly any of our decent players after promotion, ok not great, Challinor says we will be ok first game everything will be sorted, ok club has a decent excuse, that wasn't the case. Then not to worry transfer deadline day we will get players, erm mike fondop arrives. Slightly concerning to say the least. Not to worry I've withheld money for January, yes can't wait to see the high quality January signings. I actually don't believe we will see past Boro reserves, ok that's never worked before but so be it. Then this what a complete joke of an appointment when we needed a massive lift, someone with experience and contacts.

So I will start asking questions now, where the F##k has the money gone? The supposed million gained from promotion, the supposed 6 figure sum for the keeper, the 5500 crowds we have been pulling in, the money from sponsorship which clubs in premiership we are told it wouldn't look out of place. Dave the snake Challinor and his wife leaving coded messages on departure, someone adored by the fans, couldn't wait to leave for any club probably Fylde under 12s would of been more lucrative to him.

Now this, cheap doesn't even come into it. We expect to have a 15000 seater stadium built by this guy now? Only been talking bout it for 2 years and got absoloutey nowhere, I beleive it when I see it the only thing that will be done will be a bigger flag to cover a few more seats in the nwc to kill a bit more atmosphere.

We now have a huge fight to stay up.

Anyway rant over best of luck Graeme and the under 23s that your probably only allowed to bring in.

What financial restraints are these? Raj said we are basically self sustainable, how many other clubs can say that, yet Scunthorpe can appoint a manager immediately of decent quality, we wait 5 weeks yet again penny pinching.

Welcome back to Mr Lee & Nelson giving you full support and encouragement in your future endeavors, I hope this partnership along with Sweens and a new head of recruitment is successful now Raj please give them the backing to see the job through.

You never know - it could be alright. Good luck to all.

He celebrated like he’d won the World Cup. Whereas Westwood just jogged back to his own half when he scored for Walsall in his first game back after his red card ban. I’m going to struggle to forgive and forget that about Nelson. There was just no need.

a fair point made to me over lunch from a group message of die hard pools fans is this...

ill water it down as much as i can as it was a fair rant !

" Look at it from Perhaps a 'either have your cake and eat it or be real scenario'. The Club is now sustainable and we are clearly not in any situation as to where the club could potentially fold as Raj states the investment into the club is the best its ever been (perhaps). The COO is quoted as saying [sponsorship deal] it wouldnt look out of place in the Prem (if this is his first bit of handy work then fair play to the man, the work going on in the backround is to potentially keep the books right and us have a football club). Now secondly look at the certain messages Raj relayed in his interview. The fact DC couldnt maybe be trusted and finances where withheld is again a sure sign that DC is protecting the Football Club regardless of what is happening on the field. We all dont know at what point money from said accomplishments have came into Raj / Clubs back pocket all we do know is severance was paid for the snakes departure. This money may have been set aside for said management or put into the pot for Jan... Soon we will find out. This could all be tactical in giving us the best chance at signing players /improving the club/ Signing on good backroom staff and bringing in certain missing members of footballing staff. Again we will see in due course.

With regards to the new guys in the dugout they do tick the boxes for everything us fans want from a manager .. lets face it... Both played for the club at possible one of our better times... both local... both want the best for the club.... have some passion and heart to see us succeed which not even Pep or Jose could come in with as like anything its a Job. Raj has his doubters and why shouldnt he but i think this could be a bold move and tbh he appointed DC and look how that worked out for us. I doubt Spike would have left a very good job at the boro to be scraping about trying to get us to stay in the football league. Raj hopefully has sold him something worth coming to Pools for !

Oh for fuck's sake - give it a rest !
If you're not happy, don't go - end of !
What really pisses me off with the doom mongers on this board is they'll be first to jump on the band wagon if it all goes swimmingly.
We're Pools not Man effing City !!!

When you have just got promoted out of a league that is now becoming almost impossible to get out of, have 5 straight losses, do you then take a huge risk on two lads with no track experience? It's almost suicidal, if we go down this year, we won't be coming back in a hurry.

My initial reaction - WTF - we've gone for the cheap option and perhaps not the first choice. Ex-players as managers has never worked out very well for Pools in my experience?? I bloody hope this comes off. Also, it's not exactly written in stone that we will get first dibs on Boro's decent U23 players, as we found out with Lewis Cass.

I agree with billinghampoolie, this is a massive risk. We needed an experienced manager.

Anyway good luck Graeme.

Poor guy. 1 day into appointment and already deemed a failure! We picked Challinor off the scrap heap after his demise at Fylde and Raj supported him well.

I am sure Forest Green have the same opinion of the appointment of the Wolves U23 manager, Edwards as their new boss, even though they are streets ahead of the rest of the league. People have to start somewhere and he has a point to prove.

Good luck to Lee and the new back up team.

Somewhat underwhelmed but will get behind the new boss.

Also Nelse had a really poor record at Blyth - P28 W3 D6 L19 F19 A64, Pts 15 of 84

I thought Strachan would have been a good appointment but if he wants to stay at Celtic then so be it.

Hope it all works out!

billingham.....track experience ???........brian clough had no track experience......eddie howe had no track experience....dave jones on the other hand had boat loads of track experience .....it is possible believe it or not to be track experienced and be utter shite all at the same time.....

Fair enough on the wolves u23 boss, however the difference being the Forest Green chairman is f**king minted, so their team is light years ahead of ours.

Can you tell me what track experience of the football league that Challinor and Cooper had ?????? We named a stand after one and gave God like status to the other.

Challinor came to us in the non league, he had a reputation of doing well, it was no surprise when we got promoted under him. Cooper is almost a one off . We have picked two lads here who aren't even used to winning games as managers, if they replicate what they have done in their managerial careers so far we will be relegated. Why on earth would we take this chance that it might work? How on earth could we cope with Wrexham and Stockports investment if we get relegated? We are on a slide and we have gone and done this, we might as well of left Sweeney in charge and gave him a couple of home games, instead of the terribly difficult run of games he has had.

Only time will tell...............as always. Let's hope it works out and they become head hunted as well. I'll live with that.

The answer to the question is they had no track experience in the football league.

As for Challinor doing well in non league, he didn't do as well as Craig Harrison and look how he turned out. For every example to back up your point there is one to destroy it. That's football.
No one knows how this set up is going to work so all we can do is give them our best support and see how it pans out.
You people who criticise Raj at every turn need to remember that without him we might not have a football club to talk, or in your case, whinge about.
We choose to support a club like Pools and I've been doing that for nigh on seventy years during which my fingers are forever crossed.

I wouldnt look too much into 'what has Nelson ever done'... hes the assistant, his knowledge of this league and more importantly his experience as a good defender will help. He may have a contact or 2 from his time at Stevenage and might twist the arm of Gateshead to sell us Mac Langstaff (why we never signed him in the summer). Him and Sweens will work closesly has he mentioned in the interview. Im sure he will be given the defence to look after whilst Sweens may pick up the Midfield and attack. I think he will be a good voice on the sideline as he was on the pitch - hes a leader by trait if anything this will help. Havnt had much on the sidelines recently in terms of ppl barking orders etc.

Are you seriously comparing what Craig Harrison did compared to Challinor? I'm going to skip over that because it's not even worth talking about the comparison between the tow of them, that's even with the very little love I now have for Challinor and what he has done.

You say you people who criticise raj at every turn, how wrong can you be, I'm forever grateful for him for saving us, I've praised him for getting us a quality manager, for buying quality when needed last year and for promotion.

Sometimes though you have to say it as it is, the team so far this year has gone backwards on a national league squad, I'm not sure many can deny this, we are even playing a keeper deemed not good enough at times last season. We have just appointed a lad who has taken Boro under 23s to second bottom of the league and an assistant who won 5 times at Blyth and was sacked. Do you not think it's time more people grew balls and started asking raj what the he'll is going on?

Turnbull's record doesn't really speak volumes, head of recruitment at Scunthorpe 2016-2020. Sacked from Bradford after 10 months in 2021 also been at Oldham and Chesterfield.

Locally based management team. Connections to the club. Not involved in talks to take over at Stockport County when they penned a deal. Lots of positives. Hope they can do well.