Is it jinxed? Doh!

Could play in Barcelonas kit, until we sign some forwards fit for the football league we will continue to lose away.

Have Man U still got that gray kit?

And get a goalkeeper who will come off his line and deal with corners!!!!

One thing Challinor has never got sorted is a decent keeper, probobly down to the budget he has to juggle all the time.

Anyone going to be buying the replica away kit?

Here we go, it’s funny how people are happy to juggle a football club budget in a way they’d refuse to do it point blank with their household budget.
But then it’s someone else’s money isn’t it.

getting one better is not as easy as some think. watch the efl goals on quest and see how many keeper mistakes are made every week from the championship downwards. never rated killip but there are plenty out there earning far more who all have errors in them.

Here we go what? Do you not feel if Challinors budget was better we would not have a slightly better keeper or even have a forward brought in by now? Or do you just not like any criticism whatsoever aimed at the club? Let's be fair here raj has said money is available, probobly enough to bring in a kid on loan.

Thing that's frustrating is we have had plenty of decent keepers, it almost cost us last year and it has cost us once or twice already.

decent keepers in the past but still have not replaced trevor carson for me. each one we sign seem worse than the one they replace.

A decent keeper and lasts years forward line i reckon we would of been top now, instead it looks like we are going to have to rely on home form to keep us up there, you certainly wouldn't be surprised if we lose at oldham too, we can't keep trying to muster on with what we have up front.

The team will evolve over time - we've already seen that. Some players that come in will be better than those that leave. We've seen DC (and his coaching team) improve 'no hopers' into players desired by other teams. Well done them. Getting his own contract done and dusted will be more of a fillip than replacing Killip.

Keeping us out of 23rd and 24th position is the ambition this season. Anything better - brilliant.
I may well have low ambitions but after the last 10 years, staying in the league for years is what I'll take.

Killip is a better shot stopper than the man he replaced (Scott Loach) but Loachy was big enough and confident enough to command his box for crosses in a way that Killip has never managed and looks like he never will.

It's a weakness that opponents will keep on exploiting all season - Tranmere got their winner the same way as Sutton. The manager obviously rates Ben Killip more highly than most of us fans do but it must be time to give Jonathan Mitchell a run in the first team. It's very unusual for Dave Challinor to criticise an individual player's performance and based on what he said to Radio Tees last night I think we'll see Mitchell in against Oldham. Probably!

DC has openly criticised Killip for not doing what he was told to do, so the ball is firmly in DC's court. He has to do something about it or risk demonstrating that certain players "get away with it".
Personally I think criticism should be kept in the dressing room and the training ground but if DC publicly announces that players aren't doing as they are told, he has to publicly address that or risk the consequences.

we actually looked much better when fella and cullen came on. ok, neither are my choices but the best we have got till january.

Goodwin and Molyneux are not the answer up front, Fela and Cullen are definitely the better bet

its not the first time DC has done this in his interviews. think he had a pop at tyler burey after one of his early games which seemed to improve him no end.

Agree about Olomola - he looks lively every time he gets on and was unlucky not to score last night. Cullen still doesn't look match fit, but he's not going to get any fitter sitting on the bench.

Project 25 means we not allowed to join league One till 2025

All fans are different with there views and opinions but I'm with BILLY on this one.The transfer window was a missed opportunity to fast track Ambition and jump all over our good start and well over budget crowds this season.
Maybe the next Window sees some decent recruitment.
UTP.!

burey out till god knows when and holohan out for a month and yet again lost the two most likely to score. the gift keeps on giving. really wonder apart from liddle what the total league goals scored by the other 9 lads were in our starting line up last night was. imagine some defenders have scored more own goals in their careers than that pools side have against the opposition.

burey out till god knows when and holohan out for a month and yet again lost the two most likely to score. the gift keeps on giving. really wonder apart from liddle what the total league goals scored by the other 9 lads were in our starting line up last night was. imagine some defenders have scored more own goals in their careers than that pools side have against the opposition.

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Project 25 means we not allowed to join league One till 2025

hope thats a bit of sarcasm and not a belief in Project 25 bullshit.

Yeah he did criticise Burey in public and I remember thinking it was a bit off. I am fully behind DC trying to make his loanees better players because that means we benefit whilst they're here but I don't agree with having a pop in public. I think Burey has improved the team but I'm not quite sure the club have improved Burey. He was impressive in all of the limited games he has played and evenly consistent. Time will tell whether we have improved him and Millwall will be the ultimate judges of that.
As for Killip. You know, I know, everybody knows that Killip flaps at crosses and has never commanded the six yard box, especially at set pieces, and personally I don't think he ever will and I dare venture that you don't think he will either.
DC, however, consistently picks him and has now publicly announced that he told him to command the six yard box and surprise, surprise, Killip didn't do it says DC. We'll see if public criticism suddenly improves Killip's control of the six yard box. I'm not holding my breath but will be pleasantly surprised if DC's tactic works and I will be the first to praise him for it.

I think we are victims to DC's only downfall - his lack of Football league management experience in terms of how to go about getting players on deadline days etc. Its his first rodeo unfortunately in the big leagues transfer window and im sure him and his team will know better for next time. The new CEO is of footballing background with a decent pedigree so it will help with the recruitment side of things when we are able to sign players again. Im hoping he has good connections. Raj publicly stated there was money offered for players but for reasons outside of our control it didnt happen. I generally believe the club does have cash and is only building its coffers as every home game goes by. lets ride this storm which its become unfortunately, and see what happens when the EFL money arrives. UTFP !

Agree.

yes so do i. when you have managed for a good number of years without the transfer period affecting you it must be difficult just to change overnight especially with the short period pools had to do it in.

It wasn't challinor trying to conclude the deals though, it had nothing to do with him missing out on players on deadline day.

Agree. I never understood why Loach was so highly rated.

The Transfer Window was a chance to bring the squad up to league standard.Put to bed the late recruitment Scenario.
This nearly signed players all sounds good bud in reality counts for nothing.
We now down to the bare bones after a few injuries.
Anyhow it is what it is till New Year.
UTP.

I thought it was bullshit last season.
But now we up it's a bit more of a reality quote.
It's basically down to the Chairmans Ambition.
The small print needs changing to the Championship.

I know its great to be back in the League.
But my ambitions as a fan is to crack on and go to the next level.Honestly think we can get there under DC IF he's given the tools to do his trade.
Maybe a decent FA Cup run could fast track Project 23.
I've brought the project forward.Maybe I've got no patience or live in fantasy world.
UTP.

no, but was far better than that lazio keeper was last night who palmed a hopeful lob into his own goal. just shows the state of modern goalkeeping with all their own coaches and oven gloves on their hands. i,m sure some would even drop their pay packets.

Its because they want them to "play with their feet".

I’d employ seals as goalkeepers..... great with a ball and all for a bag of mackerel a day. Win win scenario.
But only for away matches, there’ll be a hell of a mess if they start shitting on the team coach and you try stopping one!

Mitchell?

If he's not good enough, why was he signed? But who is to say, as fans, if he is good enough or not!

and the alternative to him is who. nowadays it must be the hardest position to cover. i,m sure DC would be happy for fans to suggest sensible names who are better than killip and who could replace him.