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 Post subject: Football club or Mary Celeste
PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 9:51 am 
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Are pools a professional football club or a ghost of one. Yesterday I rang the club four times and was not answered one, three departments and the operator without luck. What is happening do they want to do business or not. Still no chief exec and no sign of one were is the captain of the ship. I notice Raj is always availlable for photo shoots when money is coming in but disappear when he needs to be getting his round so to speak. Clubs in the national league north have academies where is ours? When you see Darlington are considering David Wheater when we could not afford his wages what is happening ? I feel it is only a matter of time before DC goes then the shit will hit the fan.


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 Post subject: Re: Football club or Mary Celeste
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ringing up anyone nowadays is a nightmare. cancelled my car insurance the other week and that took nearly 3 hours to get through fortunatly on a freephone number. always remember at times it can be clubs not willing to pay players wages they want rather than not being able to pay them. do not know about acadamies and i,m not really interested to be honest. let others set em up, release players and then we can pick em up without all the hassle of setting one up. 2 wins out of 3. lets show a bit of optimism whilst the wheels are still on.


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 Post subject: Re: Football club or Mary Celeste
PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 10:30 am 
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Damn, thought Mary Celeste was a new signing there.


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 Post subject: Re: Football club or Mary Celeste
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Raj has never been involved with a successful football club and I suspect that he does not have the cash and/or the nouse to create one.


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 Post subject: Re: Football club or Mary Celeste
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Hartlepool FC rescued from oblivion.

Hartlepool FC promoted.

If this is failure, then bring it on!

On the admin side.. those roles did not exist until we got promoted again. There will be a period of recruitment and training needed along with needing some time to settle. I had to call Woking last week and went through 3 calls before I got to the right people. These folks have been on furlough, released or just started. I'm cutting them some slack, in the same way I'd expect to be treated differently for a while.


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 Post subject: Re: Football club or Mary Celeste
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Brasil Brush wrote:
Damn, thought Mary Celeste was a new signing there.

pools first non binary player.


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 Post subject: Re: Football club or Mary Celeste
PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:00 pm 
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When you see Darlington are considering David Wheater when we could not afford his wages what is happening ?


David Wheater has no wages, he's out of work!!


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 Post subject: Re: Football club or Mary Celeste
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We have no staff because Raj wont re-employ them off Furlough.


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 Post subject: Re: Football club or Mary Celeste
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Heard from someone that Wheater wants "League One standard" wages.


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 Post subject: Re: Football club or Mary Celeste
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Brasil Brush wrote:
Damn, thought Mary Celeste was a new signing there.


We went for his/her brother/sister Marie instead.

There was an article about Wheater in the Mail or the Echo last week and his wage demands were indeed the issue. If Pools have got big bucks for anyone it should be a proven goalscorer not a 34 year old centre back let go by League 2 Oldham. He'd be a great signing for a National League North side - one with some money, not Darlo!


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 Post subject: Re: Football club or Mary Celeste
PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 1:33 pm 
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I’ve been phoning the bank for a week and got through this morning on the fourth attempt after a 25 minute wait....it’s called staff shortages to do with something called COVID. :roll:
So what did you phone for.....? You sound like you had your fingers crossed you’d not get through so you could have a rant...... so....what did you phone for?

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 Post subject: Re: Football club or Mary Celeste
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trevwoody wrote:
Hartlepool FC rescued from oblivion.

Hartlepool FC promoted.

If this is failure, then bring it on!

On the admin side.. those roles did not exist until we got promoted again. There will be a period of recruitment and training needed along with needing some time to settle. I had to call Woking last week and went through 3 calls before I got to the right people. These folks have been on furlough, released or just started. I'm cutting them some slack, in the same way I'd expect to be treated differently for a while.


For a club with a record of league football since 1921, getting promoted back to where we had been for 95 years is for me a relief rather than a great success. Yes, I agree that getting out of the National League was quite an achievement but success for me starts with maintaining an EFL club without fear of relegation. Raj has not done that yet.


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 Post subject: Re: Football club or Mary Celeste
PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 1:46 pm 
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Never has a posters little pic summed up their attitude so perfectly.
Cup half empty.

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 Post subject: Re: Football club or Mary Celeste
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dstanley wrote:
trevwoody wrote:
Hartlepool FC rescued from oblivion.

Hartlepool FC promoted.

If this is failure, then bring it on!

On the admin side.. those roles did not exist until we got promoted again. There will be a period of recruitment and training needed along with needing some time to settle. I had to call Woking last week and went through 3 calls before I got to the right people. These folks have been on furlough, released or just started. I'm cutting them some slack, in the same way I'd expect to be treated differently for a while.


For a club with a record of league football since 1921, getting promoted back to where we had been for 95 years is for me a relief rather than a great success. Yes, I agree that getting out of the National League was quite an achievement but success for me starts with maintaining an EFL club without fear of relegation. Raj has not done that yet.


We were on the verge of oblivion, Raj was the only person willing to have a go at bringing us back from that scenario.
The next step was to get us back into the league, he has achieved that.
The next step now is to keep us in the EFL. We're off to a reasonable start but there is a long way to go.
Time will tell whether he makes us an EFL club without fear of relegation or not but saying he hasn't achieved that yet after only three games is overstating the obvious.

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 Post subject: Re: Football club or Mary Celeste
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The 'yet' referred to his track record, not this season,
Not securing the future of our really good manager and not going for a proven goal scorer worries me. The thought at my age of trips to Dover with a steep incline to climb to the visitors end does not bear thinking about.

I am just hoping that Raj has the nouse to do what owners of our club did for 94 years, namely keep us in the EFL. So far the players and manager are performing well but Raj needs to raise his game.


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 Post subject: Re: Football club or Mary Celeste
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Not hard to distinguish between you and a ray of sunshine..... :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Football club or Mary Celeste
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dstanley wrote:
The 'yet' referred to his track record, not this season,
Not securing the future of our really good manager and not going for a proven goal scorer worries me. The thought at my age of trips to Dover with a steep incline to climb to the visitors end does not bear thinking about.

I am just hoping that Raj has the nouse to do what owners of our club did for 94 years, namely keep us in the EFL. So far the players and manager are performing well but Raj needs to raise his game.

With respect the system kept us in the EFL for a large portion of that time rather than on the pitch success and sound management. Had it not been for re-election we may have been relegated long ago so it’s unfair to compare two totally different eras.


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 Post subject: Re: Football club or Mary Celeste
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With respect the system kept us in the EFL for a large portion of that time rather than on the pitch success and sound management. Had it not been for re-election we may have been relegated long ago so it’s unfair to compare two totally different eras.


even though pools have benefitted from the new system i,m still not over convinced this is better than the old one. if the new one was in force in the early 80,s we,d have had teams like runcorn, wealdstone , enfield and altrincham as league clubs. goodness knows who would have been promoted before that.


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 Post subject: Re: Football club or Mary Celeste
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I prefer to give Fred Westgarth credit for having good relationships with other div 3(N) owners/chairmen that got the votes to avoid relegation. However we did it, Pools fans watched league football for 94 years and I believe the current fans deserve that.
Keeping the manager and signing a proven goal scorer would guarantee that IMO. Most of the posts on the subject are in agreement and the only person who can make it happen is Raj.


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 Post subject: Re: Football club or Mary Celeste
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We need a proven goal scorer? So does 90% of league clubs so does that mean all club owners want to get their fingers out also?


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 Post subject: Re: Football club or Mary Celeste
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STOP RIGHT THERE!!! Johnjo1.
You are talking sense, stop it right now.......... :laugh:

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 Post subject: Re: Football club or Mary Celeste
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but we actually had 3 last season. 1 ours and 2 on loan. could have still had all three if we had matched what other clubs had offered.


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 Post subject: Re: Football club or Mary Celeste
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I'm sure Dave Challinor will get some business done before the end of the deadline, he always does. Don't really mind what positions get covered as long as the squad is improved.

It seems to have escaped some people's notice that Pools have scored 5 goals in 3 league games. Burey and Goodwin both look to have goals in them and Cullen hasn't started a competitive match yet. It's very early days but at the minute I'd rather be a Poolie than a Port Vale fan (1 goal in 4 league games).


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 Post subject: Re: Football club or Mary Celeste
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Im certain we will secure another loan signing forward player before deadline day. More importantly i believe we need a left sided CB, someone with height but also pace. Goodwin has impressed me so far and there is still alot more to come from him once he gels into the team more. I think a player like him could do well alongside a fully match fit and confident Cullen. We may be in for a treat when this man starts to get some game time. Im sure DC mentioned a possible change in formation aswell utilising wingers with Ferguson shifting up field, this would work i think with Burey on the opposite flank. Shelts and Feaths bossing the midfield an a solid back 4.


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“If we had offered what other clubs offered” True but the truth is we can’t you have to be realistic.


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Raj has never been involved with a successful football club and I suspect that he does not have the cash and/or the nouse to create one.


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 Post subject: Re: Football club or Mary Celeste
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dstanley wrote:
trevwoody wrote:
Hartlepool FC rescued from oblivion.

Hartlepool FC promoted.

If this is failure, then bring it on!

On the admin side.. those roles did not exist until we got promoted again. There will be a period of recruitment and training needed along with needing some time to settle. I had to call Woking last week and went through 3 calls before I got to the right people. These folks have been on furlough, released or just started. I'm cutting them some slack, in the same way I'd expect to be treated differently for a while.


For a club with a record of league football since 1921, getting promoted back to where we had been for 95 years is for me a relief rather than a great success. Yes, I agree that getting out of the National League was quite an achievement but success for me starts with maintaining an EFL club without fear of relegation. Raj has not done that yet.


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 Post subject: Re: Football club or Mary Celeste
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dstanley wrote:
I prefer to give Fred Westgarth credit for having good relationships with other div 3(N) owners/chairmen that got the votes to avoid relegation. However we did it, Pools fans watched league football for 94 years and I believe the current fans deserve that.

What planet are you orbiting....Fred Westgarth’s time was 70 years ago, you are harking back to a system that collapsed years ago which has no relevance to today.

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dstanley wrote:
The 'yet' referred to his track record, not this season,
Not securing the future of our really good manager and not going for a proven goal scorer worries me. The thought at my age of trips to Dover with a steep incline to climb to the visitors end does not bear thinking about.

I am just hoping that Raj has the nouse to do what owners of our club did for 94 years, namely keep us in the EFL. So far the players and manager are performing well but Raj needs to raise his game.


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