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Have a look at today's Preview Show on the OS, from about 5 minutes in. There's a long interview with 3 of the leading lights (no doubt some will say 'ringleaders').

I'm a Yakker Poolie with no connections with the town other than the football club, so don't know any of the gentlemen involved. There was a lot said about helping the club and the community, from the sound of things mainly through supporting youth and women's football. I don't think the Trust was mentioned by name once, which I thought was a bit odd.


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No mention of the supporter’s association either, who have traditionally supported the youth team. Sound like HOOC are taking this over?


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Option to donate will certainly appeal to some though, so fair enough. Will wait and see what those projects are before deciding to chip in or not.
Also, website mentions admin costs. Not sure what they’d be?! Will ask once lines of communication are set up.


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Is this an April fool ? How has singh pulled off this absolute blag ?

No wonder he didn’t entertain the trusts offer is this was bubbling away in the background. Free money. No shares. No say. The mans a genius.

No they won’t mention the trust as HOTC is being led by the biggest anti trust man out there in Walter Mitty Shithead, he hates the trust that much he’s set his own up.

Brilliant. Just what we need this. Another fans group


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Brilliant. Just what we need this. Another fans group

thats my take on the thing also. doubt the average fan anyway has money to throw around at these new projects anyway even if they want to be thought of as a super fan. think the word United should be dropped off the clubs name. only in times of success has this word can ever describe pools.


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Is this an April fool ? How has singh pulled off this absolute blag ?

No wonder he didn’t entertain the trusts offer is this was bubbling away in the background. Free money. No shares. No say. The mans a genius.

No they won’t mention the trust as HOTC is being led by the biggest anti trust man out there in Walter Mitty Shithead, he hates the trust that much he’s set his own up.

Brilliant. Just what we need this. Another fans group


But this one is different - this is based at the Vic and can incur administration costs...........


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I did wonder about that. Minimum donation £10 to cover admin Costs.

No option to ask them what these Costs are.

It says they are based at pools and has pools tel number on so I assume one can ring pools and ask ?


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Brilliant. Just what we need this. Another fans group

thats my take on the thing also. doubt the average fan anyway has money to throw around at these new projects anyway even if they want to be thought of as a super fan. think the word United should be dropped off the clubs name. only in times of success has this word can ever describe pools.



Never a true word spoken sir. The club is United in name only now.

You’ll be vetted at the gate soon...

Excuse me sir which fan group are you part of, have a think we have plenty.


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Is this an April fool ? How has singh pulled off this absolute blag ?

No wonder he didn’t entertain the trusts offer is this was bubbling away in the background. Free money. No shares. No say. The mans a genius.

No they won’t mention the trust as HOTC is being led by the biggest anti trust man out there in Walter Mitty Shithead, he hates the trust that much he’s set his own up.

Brilliant. Just what we need this. Another fans group


Have you read the incorporation documentation? Worth a look at the objectives - what they are going to do for the town, not just the club, is awesome. As has been said, what did the Romans do for us? Whatever, given that there is already a vaccine for covid 19 and I question the logics of junior sides funded this way, I'll keep donating to HUST.


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https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/13002117


Offices in 61 bridge street London ?

Thought they were based at pools ?


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Brian Honour's Left Foot wrote:
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Is this an April fool ? How has singh pulled off this absolute blag ?

No wonder he didn’t entertain the trusts offer is this was bubbling away in the background. Free money. No shares. No say. The mans a genius.

No they won’t mention the trust as HOTC is being led by the biggest anti trust man out there in Walter Mitty Shithead, he hates the trust that much he’s set his own up.

Brilliant. Just what we need this. Another fans group


Have you read the incorporation documentation? Worth a look at the objectives - what they are going to do for the town, not just the club, is awesome. As has been said, what did the Romans do for us? Whatever, given that there is already a vaccine for covid 19 and I question the logics of junior sides funded this way, I'll keep donating to HUST.


It would be a decent website if it was designed by a 15 year old for a D&T project, i'd give them 6/10 - please fact and date check next time, also make sure the product you are designing doesn't already exist in another format that rhymes with flust, good effort though.

Michael Calvin did a decent documentary on BT sport last month regarding fans and their importance.

It seems these fan splits happen regularly and happened at bury, it did them no favours when the shit hit the fan.

You have to wonder why people set up these other groups, well you dont wonder its obviously about ego and control.


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I heard a lot of ‘we want to’ but not much ‘how we’re going to do it’.

Walter Mitty Shithead devoted his life to building an anti supporters trust group and pointing the daft lads in that direction. It’s very rich to see him spouting about cohesion and all mates together for the good of the club.


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You have to wonder why people set up these other groups, well you dont wonder its obviously about ego and control.

its nothing to do with pools but in my experiance people who do get involved with these things are like that. all i want to do is watch pools at every available opportunity i can get depending on performances on the pitch. only the distance away from home and lack of money stops me watching all games. do not want to get involved in any groups after the experiance i had years ago. was on the commitee of the post vintage humber car club years ago. had two early post war cars but could not wait to sever my interest in the club and actually sold both cars due to the constant in fighting in the club by those demanding change.


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Well I am out. It seemed a good idea and where looking to join but fed up of slagging of. Lads involved in the group are on Facebook and Twitter slating over fans but they also talk about being United ??? Good start by them to start a new group and two days later slag of a chunk of fans. Good luck , but they are loosing my money.

Timmy if you are reading then get back to slagging of Pools and supporting torqey


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HOOC 1908 accounts are overdue. Just a fact, not a comment.


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Before we go any further. is it a charity….?

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I know a couple of the people on that board (John Sutheran and Terry Hanlon) and those two are genuine and honest guys and long standing supporters. I can't speak for the others as I don't know anything about them.


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Snowy, I don't think that it is a charity - but happy to be corrected. It is a Community Interest Company with laudable objectives and I simply looked it up as I was thinking about 'pledging'.


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brain..."HOOC 1908 accounts are overdue. Just a fact, not a comment."... "I simply looked it up as I was thinking about 'pledging'."

..."stunning" b/s :roll:

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I heard a lot of ‘we want to’ but not much ‘how we’re going to do it’.

Walter Mitty Shithead devoted his life to building an anti supporters trust group and pointing the daft lads in that direction. It’s very rich to see him spouting about cohesion and all mates together for the good of the club.

Looks like a supporters group in soft focus having a go at reinventing the wheel.
The exact purpose, despite reading the blurb, I have yet to fathom.

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I can't fathom the point of it frankly, I know one or two are very close to the club and no doubt have good intentions but as has been said, whats the point of yet another group?


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There should only be one group and that is Hartlepool United. Within that there are a series of sub groups and the supporters section should be one sub group and one only.
Fractionalization and division is losing strength not gaining it.

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Could it be they want a place at he table? If it carry’s on it’ll be like the Round table of King Arthur.

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It will all go to rat shit anyway when the nwc spit their dummies out completely……..oh wait, they’re mutually exclusive aren’t they :laugh:


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There should only be one group and that is Hartlepool United. Within that there are a series of sub groups and the supporters section should be one sub group and one only.
Fractionalization and division is losing strength not gaining it.

the club will love more than one group as these groups will concentrate on fighting amongs themselves and leave the club alone. even just one supporters group there will be constant in fighting if its anything like the classic car club was when i was a commitee member of it.


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One thing I do know is that the grief in organising the trust simply was not worth it by a long way.


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In all these things there are those mono bores who remorselessly pursue the same agenda to the detriment of achieving a unified group.

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mr i..."One thing I do know is that the grief in organising the trust simply was not worth it by a long way."

...golf days diversity issues and community engagement..withdrew my subscription a while back...


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brain..."HOOC 1908 accounts are overdue. Just a fact, not a comment."... "I simply looked it up as I was thinking about 'pledging'."

..."stunning" b/s :roll:

https://kgaccountantsblog.com/2020/03/1 ... ifference/


It seems you're very emotionally invested in this issue...


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mr i..."One thing I do know is that the grief in organising the trust simply was not worth it by a long way."

...golf days diversity issues and community engagement..withdrew my subscription a while back...



Always raising funds. For what? When it was needed all the trust board did was call for someone else to step forward. It became pointless at that moment.


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mr i..."Always raising funds. For what?"

...communications/diversity/community engagement... :roll:

https://www.hufcsupporterstrust.org.uk/ ... t-the-team

"HUST has several on-going fundraising initiatives to raise funds directly for HUST, and occasionally holds/promotes events to raise money for community groups" :laugh:


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Trusts are an enigma in a way, especially in the process of running a club. Afraid I prefer the tried and tested benevolent millionaire model who loves the club. I can but dream. :laugh:

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Trusts are an enigma in a way, especially in the process of running a club. Afraid I prefer the tried and tested benevolent millionaire model who loves the club. I can but dream. :laugh:


So are folk who claim to know a lot about football, but listen to it on the radio.


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Trusts are an enigma in a way, especially in the process of running a club. Afraid I prefer the tried and tested benevolent millionaire model who loves the club. I can but dream. :laugh:

its actually bloody frightening if any supporters group were allowed to run pools or any other league club for that matter when even a small number on message boards cannot agree on any topic. the best dream would be a group of the rich running the club that agree to one of them in charge and not one individual who could get bored at anytime.


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mr i..."Always raising funds. For what?"

...communications/diversity/community engagement... :roll:

https://www.hufcsupporterstrust.org.uk/ ... t-the-team

"HUST has several on-going fundraising initiatives to raise funds directly for HUST, and occasionally holds/promotes events to raise money for community groups" :laugh:



You seem to have an irrational hatred of the trust, is it because you never thought of the idea?

What’s the problem with them raising money for community groups? If the club bothered to engage with them on that front it would provide free publicity for them


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willy wonker..."is it because you never thought of the idea?"

...yeah that's right...how did you guess?...how "irrational" of me and oooh the "irony" eh...now run along sonny..only over 14's allowed on here... :roll:


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Trusts are an enigma in a way, especially in the process of running a club. Afraid I prefer the tried and tested benevolent millionaire model who loves the club. I can but dream. :laugh:


So are folk who claim to know a lot about football, but listen to it on the radio.

I don’t comment on matches, check your facts, how can I…..? Apart from the Tranmere match which I did see.
I can comment about the politics of the game though, so get used to it sonny.

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A Trust is basically a committee, they say a camel is a horse designed by a committee.

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poolie1 wrote:
willy wonker..."is it because you never thought of the idea?"

...yeah that's right...how did you guess?...how "irrational" of me and oooh the "irony" eh...now run along sonny..only over 14's allowed on here... :roll:



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willy wonker.."Do you talk to all kids that way? Danger to society"

..no ..only you..."danger to society"?..ffs...listen..run along now or ill have a words with your dad about you..your pocket money might get stopped..you wouldn't want that now would you? :roll:


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mr i..."One thing I do know is that the grief in organising the trust simply was not worth it by a long way."

...golf days diversity issues and community engagement..withdrew my subscription a while back...


Why do you hate the trust so much John ?

You’ve tried to drive it into the ground from day one


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willy wonker.."Do you talk to all kids that way? Danger to society"

..no ..only you..."danger to society"?..ffs...listen..run along now or ill have a words with your dad about you..your pocket money might get stopped..you wouldn't want that now would you? :roll:



No….what..:would…I…do , without my pocket money John

Out of interest, the charity bike ride your mob is doing, why are you taking half the proceeds away from Gemma Lee’s fund?


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cressy.."Why do you hate the trust so much John ?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnnHprUGKF0 :laugh:


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A Trust is basically a committee, they say a camel is a horse designed by a committee.


The only decent committee is a committee of one.

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mr i..."One thing I do know is that the grief in organising the trust simply was not worth it by a long way."

...golf days diversity issues and community engagement..withdrew my subscription a while back...



Always raising funds. For what? When it was needed all the trust board did was call for someone else to step forward. It became pointless at that moment.

Unless a Trust are able to step up, the are just bystanders like anyone else. Trusts need ample funds to function.

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willy wonker.."Do you talk to all kids that way? Danger to society"

..no ..only you..."danger to society"?..ffs...listen..run along now or ill have a words with your dad about you..your pocket money might get stopped..you wouldn't want that now would you? :roll:



No….what..:would…I…do , without my pocket money John

Out of interest, the charity bike ride your mob is doing, why are you taking half the proceeds away from Gemma Lee’s fund?


Good question, just waiting for an answer.


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willy wonker.."Do you talk to all kids that way? Danger to society"

..no ..only you..."danger to society"?..ffs...listen..run along now or ill have a words with your dad about you..your pocket money might get stopped..you wouldn't want that now would you? :roll:



No….what..:would…I…do , without my pocket money John

Out of interest, the charity bike ride your mob is doing, why are you taking half the proceeds away from Gemma Lee’s fund?


Good question, just waiting for an answer.


He has to think of an insult before answering :roll:


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