Anyone witnessed any of these type of things. Defenders kicking the ball into their own net from a free kick type of thing. Balls hitting dogs on a pitch. Goals scored via the refs arse, plus any others that i cannot think of. The latter was the only thing i,m seen and was involved in. Tried jumping over a cross, hit me on the heel and looped into the net. helped reduce the arrears for britains worst sunday league side to 17-1.

Only one I think I've seen (and the funniest) was the infamous Chris Brass OG when he was playing for Bury (?) v Darlo

Did you qualify for a goal scoring bonus Mr Accy ??

I remember going to the Rec years ago when Sunday football hadn't been going very long and saw two teams just milling about on one of the pitches. It transpired that the ref hadn't turned up, so I offered. The first half went ok but in the second half the ball landed in the box and was sat up in front of me with no one near me (that didn't happen very often). I had a rush of blood or whatever and hammered it into the goal. The World seem to stop for a second and everyone burst out laughing. What an embarassment. I apologised profusely but they were very kind and took it in good spirit. Never forget that.

Did you qualify for a goal scoring bonus Mr Accy ??

as a keeper for most of my life it was only the third time i had put the ball into the net in adult football which lasted just short of my 47th birthday. the team involved was naseby of the civil war battle fame. what a club that was. they built a brand new changing room and after compltion they realised too late that they never included a referees changing room in its plans.

Nothing to report, other than before one game, I had just checked the nets in one goal and set off walking towards the other goal. The players were having a pre match kickabout and pinging the ball about to each other, as I was around the edge of the 18yd box, I noticed a ball coming towards me at some speed, no doubt some clever t*wat had fired it towards me deliberately. To save face I didn't want to duck out of the way, but at the same time I didn't want to attempt to head it, make a mess of it and make a fool of myself. Thinking quickly on my feet, I though fook it, in the good spirit of the game I would head it. From around 15 yards out I connected with the ball beautifully and it flew past the fat lad goalkeeper into the top corner, I couldn't believe it, but kept calm and carried on walking but not before saying " thats how you do it" the players were speechless and the look on their faces was a joy to behold.

I've had dreams like that. Mine are mainly classy OHK's though, or scissor kicks. There was that one that went in off a balloon in the premier. Can't recall who was playing. Liverpool maybes.

Sunderland benefitting against Liverpool I think the beach ball one was.

If I was on either of those sides I wouldn’t be laughing, I’d be wondering why the fuck the referee is in the middle of the box closer to the ball than my teammates.

Almost as funny as Brass https://youtube.com/watch?v=cFM4eciJ4ls

That didn’t happen did it ?

That didn’t happen did it ?[/quote]
if it did he might have got an audition for the film Kes as the sports master.

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The casting gadgie for Kes turned me down, Mr Accy. He said i was too handsome !!!!!

It sure did. The alternative was for them all to go home. At least they got a game of footy and a laugh at my expense. I don't think the game counted for anything other than being abandoned or whatever term they use for such occasions. My "goal" was the best effort of the game. Would you not have offered like ?? I really enjoyed it. For a mad moment I actually considered taking it up and made some enquiries but didn't pursue it. Maybe I should have done.

That reminded me of this Lee Dixon one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpSo1aciPqU

Referee Darren Drysdale locked heads with Ipswich midfielder Alan Judge after giving him a yellow card for simulation in last nights game against Northampton.
Will the authorities take any action against the ref?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55373546

Action , what for? locking heads? if there is such a thing. I prefer to think of it as two grown men, a bit stressed not seeing eye to eye, and that is where is should end , other than maybe a bit of self reflection and self improvement for both parties.

For all I agree with you, if the player did it to the ref he would receive a big ban.

Drysdale has now apologised to Judge & Ipswich for his behaviour, the incident is being investigated by the FA & the PGMOL'.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56096867

It's a fact that other people in the game have been punished for losing their composure, so Drysdale should be no exception. In fact his punishment should be severe as he should be showing an example. I can understand red mist taking over with players, managers and fans because of the heat of the moment but not referees who should have no emotional involvement. If one of us lost our rag and reacted to a player who was deliberately goading us fans, we could be banned for life.
Hammer him.

He never lost his rag though. At best he gave Judge the evils. Hardly a hanging offence. What is with people these days, who want to ruin the lives of people , who make a mistake?. The mistake in this case, a ref , probably stressed to hell because of the abuse he is getting from the players, and under immense pressure as a result. Managers, players and fans calling for Drysdale to be hung out to dry, need to grow up.

Would he? I don't think he would, he would just get sent off.

It was a storm in a teacup , no one got assaulted, just two people staring each other out for a few seconds, nothing to see.

He admitted to losing his composure (Old Etonian for losing one's rag) The only person putting any ruin near him is himself. I don't buy the stress through abuse angle either. If he was getting abuse, and there is no evidence of that, he had obviously lost the respect of the players, if he ever had their respect that is, as well as losing control of the game.
If the boot was on the other foot and a big player put his head in the face of a a smaller referee he would have the book thrown at him and rightly so.
The only interpretation I can put on Drysdale's behaviour is intended intimidation. A big lad putting his head in the face of a smaller lad. A classic example of bullying and, like all bullying, it has to be stamped out. The authorities have no alternative other than to show the game that there is no place for this behaviour, with a significant punishment.

drysdale technecally did wrong. like the person who made a mistake with those vaccines the other week. i just hope it quickly blows over with some sanction agains drysdale without the need of the modern day witch hunt. those who never did any wrong or even a slight error of judgement in any of their actions then i,d love to hear from you. even a bad pools player does not set out to be bad its more that he is just not good enough. same with us in our jobs where non of us are all at one level but each vary in their capabilities.

I agree, he lost control, but me and you know what refs are up against, and allowances need to be made. A ref is expected to have greater integrity than God himself, and I think that is unreasonable. I have abandoned games when a player has went up to me like that, the so called head lock. He is facing charges, and because the standards and expectation within the refereeing fraternity is so high, it could be the end for him, but like you I feel the outcry is way OTT. Unusually I was surprised and pleased to see Alan Judge not make a meal out of it, fair play to him.

I was thinking just the other night , listening to Carragher on Sky, if he had been sacked for the spitting incident, I would've been robbed of IMO his expert analysis of the game. He was given a second chance rather than being lost to TV punditry, and that is what should be happening here with Drysdale, even though personally I don't think he has done much wrong , other than lost his composure rather than control and became rattled. What fans don't realise , is he would've come up through the Sunday Leagues, non leagues, reffing hundreds of games, its not as though he was appeared from nowhere and was plonked in the middle of a Championship game. He will know the score, maybe he took some problems into the game. Don't get why people these days feel the need to see people sacked for the slightest misdemeanour, its almost psychotic behaviour.

The problem with some refs they think and even act like God almighty. Sometimes it's as if the game is all about them and of course it's not.
They do have tremendous power but in my book responsibility goes with that power.
Some of their decision making has far reaching consequences and can be the difference between clubs being promoted, relegated or knocked out of cup competitions.
Who was the talking point at Cardiff....the ref. He cost us hundreds of thousands of pounds.
What about the clown who inspected Daggers pitch recently. No regard for the fact that Pools outlayed a lot of cash just to get there.
How much did the ref in the cup cost us in the replay against Brentford when he sent off Jack Ross in the eighth minute only for the red card to be rescinded. The winner got a lucrative tie at Elland Road. Then there was Odasina's dismissal at Solihull. The God awful performance by the ref at Stockport which cost us the points that would have made us champions. The list is endless.
I could go on but every club in the country has been victim of shoddy,poor and costly decisions by the officials.
And that is why there is a massive backlash against a ref sticking his head into a player's face.

We get it, you don't like refs.

They are human, they will make mistakes, but not against any one club in particular , so it should in time even itself out.

As I said, refs are human , that means some will be arrogant and have egos, just like some players, just like some supporters.

As in life itself, its difficult to climb to the very top, if you don't have confidence, ego or arrogance. Unfortunately in a game like football, a nice ref is perceived as a weak ref, so you generally find, all refs, whether arrogant or nice, put up a defensive shield, that is sometimes seen as being arrogant, in order to survive and get through the game.

A rational ,tolerant, understanding person would realise that.

Is putting your head in the face of somebody "half your size", whether it be on a football pitch, in the workplace, in the street or anyplace, demonstrating the description of being rational, tolerant and understanding??? No I thought not.
A rational, tolerant and understanding referee wouldn't put his head in a player's face. If wanting somebody punished for sticking his head in another's face is being intolerant, irrational and shows lack of understanding then the World has really gone mad.
As for your explanation of how refs have to survive and get through the game, they're controlling a game of football FFS not negotiating a path through a Normandy beach under intensive fire.
I don't dislike all referees, what I dislike is the inconsistent and incompetent ones. I agree there are good and bad refs. Which category would you put Drysdale in??
I think you are doing a very good job of demonstrating that birds of a feather flock together, Mr H, with respect.
It's not the people criticising Drysdale's behaviour who are under scrutiny here, it is simply Drysdale.
Just imagine it was Boris putting his head in Corbyn's face, you'd be the one reaching for the rope !!!!

its always been around but has certainly got worse. this is actually more important than the drysdale incident itself. he is not the most popular of appointments when clubs get him but whatever people think about his general performance on the pitch i,m afraid a lot will not be happy unless blood is spilt in the final decision. its like those who love reporting bus drivers where i have seen it from the management and driving side. people report you not to get a bollocking but really want you out of a job on their say so.

its always been around but has certainly got worse. this is actually more important than the drysdale incident itself. he is not the most popular of appointments when clubs get him but whatever people think about his general performance on the pitch i,m afraid a lot will not be happy unless blood is spilt in the final decision. its like those who love reporting bus drivers where i have seen it from the management and driving side. people report you not to get a bollocking but really want you out of a job on their say so.

I witnessed a perfect example of your analogy regarding a bus driver. A bus I was travelling on stopped to let an elderly woman get off. She fell as she was stepping off. The driver was off in a flash to attend to her. To cut a long story short he was with her about ten or so minutes before he was satisfied that she was ok and he carried on. Of course he was now late and at the next stop a very angry bloke got on and gave him dog's abuse and wouldn't shut up about going to report him etc etc. At the previous stop he was a hero and the next one exactly the opposite. Bus drivers are full of stories like that. I was on a bus that caught fire on the way into Rotherham. The driver attacked the fire with a paltry little extinguisher he had in his cab. He asked me to phone the fire brigade so I knocked on the door of the nearest house and phoned them. That was in 1983.

that bus driver story was typical of what happens. when i was on the union i helped pass a motion that no driver could be disciplined for a serious offence that could mean suspension or sacking without his accuser being present like in a court of law. funny how very few indeed took up the offer. an early version of the good old keyboard warrior.

Same in any job that involves working with the public, whether a ref, bus driver or job centre, the customer or the assailant is always right.

I mean ! does anyone actually believe a ref , bus driver, jobcentre worker or any worker for that matter, with a wife and kids, girlfriend , sister, parents , dog etc, mortgage and bills to pay, actually go to work to spoil someones day and risk losing their own livelihood into the bargain?

A few do, I have seen it, but its the exception not the rule.

I always try to remember to be polite when I'm ringing some company up to complain. The person answering the phone is almost certainly not responsible for my complaint but it is sometimes very difficult. I usually start with, I've got a complaint but not because of you. That usually gets me off on the right foot. Some of the abuse the phone answerer gets is appalling. I couldn't do that sort of job.
A bus driver once said to me, I love this job, bus driving is great, the only thing that spoils it are some of the passengers. I can understand that.

all thats true derwent. same as those cold callers we all get. people should remember they are only doing it to earn their livings and the call is not personal. giving someone dogs abuse from the other end of the phone helps no one you or the caller. only ever lost it once and it was face to face with one of those no win no fee types in town. i,d had a bad day where everyone seemed to have sold out of the dog food i get. know i was wrong but when being asked if i,d had an accident in the last 6 months i told the bloke no, but if he didn,t get out of my way he would have one in the next few seconds.