https://www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/2021 ... n-catch-up

Wow, I wonder if those vaccines could of saved peoples lives....

Imagine the uproar if London's allocation was cut to help out the North East and Yorkshire. The Mancs and Scousers would kick off big style too if it happened to them. We've got a bunch of 'Red Wall' Tory MPs in the region - hasn't made a blind bit of difference to central government's indifference the North East.

I smell a rat here.
They say the "proportion" "next week" will remain the same to the good people of the North East but won't tell you the actual amount. What about the week after.
Probably some filth like Mogg heard the story of our sucess and lobbied for their area's to get more even though infection rates in their area's are lower.

I wonder if they would've done the same had say Hertfordshire been ahead of the game, somehow I doubt it.

What North South divide?

This story broke a couple of days ago - The Guardian said then that the allocation would be halved: 200,000 doses of the vaccine down to 100,000.

This one?


https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-lon ... w-12194908

Health service resources are allocated to geographical areas on a weighted capitation basis which not only takes into account population but deprevation, age ,sex, morbidity etc etc.
So given this areas like the North East should be allocated more resources than the average or areas of relative wellbeing and good health.
On the basis of this then we should be given more of the vaccine sooner to prevent NHS overload and death.
Or this was how it was and how it should be to level up the health of the nation unless some twat has changed it.
It will be interesting to keep a eye on the numbers of jabs given as deprived areas like the NE should be at the top of this league table throughout the vaccine rollout.
So years of working in shit work conditions, eating unhealthy food, smoking tabs and swilling beer should at least get us the jab quicker than most areas.

Sounds sinister..like a plot from Logan's Run 2.

Working

Just the age demographic of the NE should be enough to justify our place at the front of the queue for the vaccine. The lack of work or decent meaningful work in the NE, has meant many young people leave this area in search of work , never to return, hence we are left with more older people than other parts of the country.

must be just part of the northern powerhouse they,ve been telling us about.

There’s a lot of effort behind the scenes for the vaccination roll out. Is this linked to the decision to delay the 2nd dose and concentrate on getting the first dose out of the way? It’s supposed to be the first dose which gives most of the immunity. If that’s the reason it might make some sort of sense but if it is they haven’t communicated it very well as usual.

There’s a lot of effort behind the scenes for the vaccination roll out. Is this linked to the decision to delay the 2nd dose and concentrate on getting the first dose out of the way? It’s supposed to be the first dose which gives most of the immunity. If that’s the reason it might make some sort of sense but if it is they haven’t communicated it very well as usual.

Don't think it is anything to do with the 2nd jab it's probably simply to do with tory mps in affluent areas getting earache from constitutants who are querying why the great unwashed of our area are getting more jabs than them. Resulting in political pressure on the DofH to readjust the allocation of vaccine.

if it had been distributed properly across the country in the first place then this situation would not have come up. just another in the list of mistakes that has been made. think all this delay in not having the manufacturers recommended time period for the second one may end up being another. just over a month ago this vaccine was classed as some sort of magic bullet to end the covid crisis and now the government and their pet experts seem to know more about it than those who manufactured the thing. its like your handbook of your car saying engine oil has to be changed every 5000 miles but the bloke in the pub, although he has had cars for his long lifetime, says its bollocks and 10,000 miles is enough. who do you believe or trust.

If you get most of the protection from the first jab it makes some sense. We wouldn’t want to be getting our second jabs when people hadn’t had the first one and remained at risk. We’re nice northern folk like that.

at the outset they said you got approx. 50 per cent only from your first jab and then 95 after your second. between first and second you had to be careful in your life. 3 weeks people can take. 12 weeks is too long and a lot will attempt to go back to normal especially when younger people start getting it. people may disagree, but for me i,d rather have 30 million done properly than 60 million not. thats if i,m one who misses out also.

I think they should've concentrated on getting the top 4 tiers vaccinated as soon as possible, first vaccination, then second within a month, rather than trying to spread it out evenly and thinly over a longer period. As you say Accrington, just another cock up in a long line of cock ups by the government.

Was reading somewhere this morning, that even after having vaccination, those people who have had it, could still spread Covid. Early days and certainly not the time yet to be getting carried away, more bumps along the way is a given.

PS. I would always trust the man in the pub

even from the begining they said their magic bullet didn,t stop you from getting the virus either. seeing that there is still less than 400 under 60,s who have died unless they had pre existing conditions makes this big rush to get down to the under 60,s seems pointless. think the blind man in the pub could see more than some in charge of our lives.

They said the second jab only increases effectiveness by another 10% although it varies slightly between the different types. It’s public health England who make the call not the politicians by the way.

The question is though how many under sixties have passed it on to people who have subsequently died. It's just as important for them to be jabbed as anybody else because if the vaccine stops transmission as well ( something they are not sure of yet) that itself would be a huge breakthrough.
Remember the slogan " Nobody is safe until we're all safe". I'm not quite sure which pub the slogan was coined in.

In the original trials there’s fantastic effectiveness beyond day 14, both in terms of reduction in symptomatic infections and also in the bodies immune response.

The immune response is miles better than unvaccinated people who have generated antibodies after contracting Covid and we know that these antibodies last for many months.

I am no fan of this government but it’s a sensible decision that the JCVI have made and the UK will likely exit the worst of this sooner than most because of it.


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More wisdom from the fat bloke down the pub and Tracy on Facebook.

These days it's the national sport. Phoned my son up for a chat yesterday and got a 15 minute lecture on excess deaths. Not exactly the light relief I was looking for

No pubs open though , no wonder the country is in such a mess.

In fact you could equate the acceleration of pub closures over the last 40 years with the decline of the UK

There is no such thing as society

Have you signed up for Corbyn's Peace and Justice project yet mr horden?

Of course . Surely every rational person wants Peace and Justice? as opposed to War and Injustice , or these days, maybe not.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

If only that had been your attitude when you were the person I signed-on the dole with in Hartlepool Jobcentre after being made redundant in 2009.

Why did the smack-head at the desk next to me get in and out in two minutes, and yet you tortured the shit out of me for nearly twenty minutes...? I had worked since the age of 16, and was not a scrounger by any stretch of the imagination.

You were simply a lickspittle government bully picking on people worse off than yourself, and any pretentions you have towards being a socialist are a desperately unfunny joke...

The only people I gave grief to, were people who gave me grief, it was the same when I was a referee, show me respect and you will get it back. I imagine you came in with a prejudiced view of jobcentre workers and acted like the Grade A c*nt you appear to be. A bully ? that's a first I hope you feel better coming on a message board anonymously and getting that off your chest, you fucking coward.

Human rights issues,covid compensation?.i'm all up for sending Corbyn to China.

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If only that had been your attitude when you were the person I signed-on the dole with in Hartlepool Jobcentre after being made redundant in 2009.

Why did the smack-head at the desk next to me get in and out in two minutes, and yet you tortured the shit out of me for nearly twenty minutes...? I had worked since the age of 16, and was not a scrounger by any stretch of the imagination.

you would not be on your own there. i got similar treatment when i used to sign on at great yarmouth job centre in the winter as i only did seasonal work from mid march to early november. got to know one of the older women there quite well. she told me it was pointless trying to help certain people as they,d make sure they never get the job anyway. people like us were more employable thats why we had to tick all their boxes just to get our dole money for a couple of weeks.

What similar treatment? Thumbscrew? water boarding? tarred and feathered? tooth extraction? sleep deprivation?

FFS ! I only got the job because I used to work for the CIA

I heard from a good source ( initials AH) that you got kicked out of the Gestapo for cruelty, Mr H.

It was a big mistake working for Adolf, we never really got along. I should've stayed in Moscow working for Stalin. Working in a Gulag was best job I ever had