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I think Armstrong has been the missing link for us so no pressure on the lad then, going for

Woking 1 Pools 2 Don't care who the scorers are.

I hope they have put some 6 inch nails in Odusinas boots.

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Magloire needs some studs in his boots too, I reckon both of them would have a case for being sent off for showing their studs.....as they both don't have any.

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Magloire needs some studs in his boots too, I reckon both of them would have a case for being sent off for showing their studs.....as they both don't have any.


Especially when most clubs are in the habit of watering their pitches before the game and at half time.
Bloody skating rinks.

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Like Boreham Wood last week, Woking are a team , who IMO will be there or thereabouts come the end of the season. Woking were 3rd a couple of weeks ago, now 10th , showing how mad this league is, Pools are 7th but only 3pts above 15th.Woking have had some convincing home wins this season, but have lost their last two, that has saw them slip to 10th, those last two though were away at Notts Co and home to Sutton, another couple of teams nailed on for the top 7, and they were narrow defeats , both 1-0. Woking are a team who might be competing with for that elusive last play off place, so we need to take at least 4 pts off them over the two games. A draw tomorrow would be a good result, a win though is what is needed if we have serious promotion ambitions.

I can't see us keeping a clean sheet , but now we have a decent striker up front , I'm going for a score draw.

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PS : Little known fact - Woking midfielder Max Kretzschmar , came off the bench and scored twice, when Wycombe won 2-1 at Pools in 2013.

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Woking streaming the game for £12 !!! Greedy southern bastards, that's the Radio for me then with £12 worth of beer!! :dance: :lol:

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Woking streaming the game for £12 !!! Greedy southern bastards, that's the Radio for me then with £12 worth of beer!! :dance: :lol:


1-1 Armstrong

Just ordered a dozen bottles from the Crafty Monkey Brewery in Elwick £30 free delivery.
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I'm going to the match.

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We'll need to play well to avoid losing.

Woking have had a strong start to the season and I reckon are punching above their weight. Hopefully the recent losses for them don't mean a bounce back v Pools.
I joined the Woking membership scheme to be guaranteed the right to buy, and then had to buy a ticket too. Down here in Woking we're currently Tier2, expecting Tier 3 next week. Thinking I could be the only Poolie fan to see a match in person for a very long time. God knows when I'll be back at the Vic too.

Woking have got a manager from Gateshead in charge so I translate what he's shouted to the folks sat near me.
They don't have as big a fan base as Pools so are charging more to stream.


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I think we are a mid table team this season (for a change) so
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I'm going to the match.

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We'll need to play well to avoid losing.

Woking have had a strong start to the season and I reckon are punching above their weight. Hopefully the recent losses for them don't mean a bounce back v Pools.
I joined the Woking membership scheme to be guaranteed the right to buy, and then had to buy a ticket too. Down here in Woking we're currently Tier2, expecting Tier 3 next week. Thinking I could be the only Poolie fan to see a match in person for a very long time. God knows when I'll be back at the Vic too.

Woking have got a manager from Gateshead in charge so I translate what he's shouted to the folks sat near me.
They don't have as big a fan base as Pools so are charging more to stream.


Woking 0 Pools 1
Last minute winner from Armstrong.
Trevwoody can't contain his excitement invades the pitch to jump on Armstrong.
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need to build on last tuesday night. a draw would not be the end of the world. going for a 1 all one. they cannot be brilliant as they are playing in this league themselves.


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Our form on the road is pretty good so I'll go for 2-0 to us but I too would not be too unhappy with a draw.

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Looks like Bloomfield & Oates are in the team, although I only briefly saw the line-up on screen


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0-4 to Pools. Just settling down with a kebab and a g&t.


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Bloody hell, didn't see this coming, how very Hartlepool, come on pools.


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Terrible defending, but Bloomfield has won loads in the air & if we can capitalise on that we are still in with a chance


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2-4 then....


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Another weekend ruined and my last win for Pools prediction FFS!!!! banghead :angry-screaming: :angry-tappingfoot:

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Ah well. Killip having a rest next time out.


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I think it’s time the club got their act together. This is simply not good enough, another predictable loss. As soon as we play anyone half decent we are found out. This squad has gone backwards since March with the cuts that have been made. Time to act now before a relegation fight.


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Is our bench actually interested in what's happning on the pitch? Looking at their phones and ordering a just eat probably.


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We don't seem to know what to do with the ball when we're in possession and we were second to the ball all game. Created a couple of opportunities but we were poor at the back, in midfield we were weak. Holohan was ineffectual. If we are playing Featherstone someone needs to be more creative. It's great passing the ball around but when are we going to get some bite? Poor stuff and like I said the bench looked unintersted.


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BBC Working commentator summary about Pools "poor defending with little going forward"

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We don't seem to know what to do with the ball when we're in possession and we were second to the ball all game. Created a couple of opportunities but we were poor at the back, in midfield we were weak. Holohan was ineffectual. If we are playing Featherstone someone needs to be more creative. It's great passing the ball around but when are we going to get some bite? Poor stuff and like I said the bench looked unintersted.


Can't argue. Clueless in every sense.


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We have the worst keeper in the league. The most overrated midfielder in pools history making his 250th appearance and a forward line barring Armstrong that wouldn’t look great at Billingham towns level. A chairman that thinks we have got value for money and a manager that appears to have let the pressure get to him and seems to have lost the plot with these bargain basements.

Raj Singh might as well of sacked Challinor at the end of last season, because the standard of players he has been allowed to bring in will see to his exit shortly anyway.


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Unless he was clapped out, which didn't seem to be the case, why take Bloomfield off when he was winning most balls put in his direction ?


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The club is and has been on a downward spiral for years, regardless of the manager or the players we get the same outcome. Good players join the club and we gradually see them get shitter by the game and sap the life and energy out of them. The same thing is happening with DC now, been here a year now and is beginning to really struggle,is it just the budget?. Cant imagine torquay spent a fortune on their squad and they are flying, so what is the problem!?. Its pointless DC being sacked because the next manager would just end up the same and the merry go round will continue.

I was delighted when the likes of odusina,Shelton, ferguson signed but they have succumbed to the pools curse like so many have before,what happens to players when they join this club,its scary how backwards they go. The only way out for pools is major major investment which wont be happening anytime soon so unless we get relegated we are stuck here losing to fucking woking and boreham wood on a weekly basis.


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Looking on the bright side of life we are only 2 points off the playoff bbolt

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OK, so Woking is in a very prosperous area, but just look at the match programme they produced. Shows how much Pools have gone backwards

Jason Kennedy is still with us !


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Streaming was excellent too, with instant replays, including highlights (???) right through the interval


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No backbone in this team, clueless, utterly shocking and thats being kind


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OK, so Woking is in a very prosperous area, but just look at the match programme they produced. Shows how much Pools have gone backwards

Jason Kennedy is still with us !


Wow that is very good.

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I won't live in false hope anymore.
I've finally come out of dream/expecting better times mode. banghead .
For a full-time employed football club with 3000+ fans it's absolutely shambolic situation how low we have sunk.
We can't even compete in a piss poor division

Ive said on numerous occasions that the recruitment of replacing shit with shit is the reason we going nowhere fast.

Now to our owners 2 well off people it's obvious they ain't fully committed to the club.

Honestly think the Trust n volunteers could to a better job.
The game is slowly but surely dieing it's death.
The fans n players have never been more divided.
I read in the paper that a Swansea player is on 80k a week that he says hes worth every penny.
Anyway fuck off football.
Can't wait for a proper sport Darts to start on Tuesday.
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Rhythm is the dancer, Challinor ain't the answer.

Making far too many mistakes on a consistent basis, dropping some players on a whim ( Ravas, Magloire) whilst taking an age to drop others ( Donaldson, Molyneux ) won't start with Grey, Macdonald has disappeared without trace, persists with playing Oates and bringing on Ofusu, both who are about as much use as chocolate fireguards.

Quite frankly his decision making IMO is all over the place, and I have lost faith in him.

Not saying they should get rid , but he will not get us promotion this season or deliver the strong season needed to go onto promotion next season. I do think a savvy Warnock sort of manager would get more out of our current squad, I initially thought DC was that man, but I realise now he isn't.

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I like DC and I dont want him to leave to be replaced by a manager we will probably want sacked this time next year but I will say he hasn't brought in players with enough character and some balls. His post match he says the players weren't angry and that's not right, they should be calling each other out but we dont have that type in our squad. Next away game of some distance they should say no to a hotel and travel on the day like some clubs have to and still manage to get results, too many princesses in this squad.


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This league is simply awful. I would really like promotion but i can never see it for years unless we get a wealthy owner. Several well funded clubs appear here every year so as i see it we are stuck. TBH i would rather be in NLN with some passion with local teams and the ability to go to more away games.
Defeatist.............yes i apologise for that.

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This league is simply awful. I would really like promotion but i can never see it for years unless we get a wealthy owner. Several well funded clubs appear here every year so as i see it we are stuck. TBH i would rather be in NLN with some passion with local teams and the ability to go to more away games.
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A fair point Mr Blue - but we would still need a team full of guys who really care.


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We need to compare our selves to Wrexham and they've been stuck here over 12 years, I really don't know what the answer is but changing the manager every year and the team week by week clearly isn't the answer.

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No point in changing the manager. As long as the club is badly run off the field, we won't see success on it. Not making an excuse for DC, this season he has been poor, but a new manager wouldn't be any different. There are types of manager out there who could sow a silk purse with a sows ear, but we couldn't afford them.

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DC clearly doesn't trust this squad , therefore doesn't know his best starting eleven , hence all the chopping and changing. Problem is all this chopping and changing and he will lose the dressing room, players won't blame themselves, not in their nature, so they look to a new manager, and so it goes on. If someone did come in , and I don't think it would make any difference , they should look to get rid of any player who played under Hignett for starters.

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We have the worst keeper in the league. The most overrated midfielder in pools history making his 250th appearance and a forward line barring Armstrong that wouldn’t look great at Billingham towns level. A chairman that thinks we have got value for money and a manager that appears to have let the pressure get to him and seems to have lost the plot with these bargain basements.

Raj Singh might as well of sacked Challinor at the end of last season, because the standard of players he has been allowed to bring in will see to his exit shortly anyway.


Big mistake , playing Killip in front of a crowd of over 400 ( Braintree's average ) :laugh:

For all the players are generally not good enough, I do think DC has made the situation worse, dropping players after one below par performance , and staying loyal to others after 5 or 6 below par performances. I just knew he would'nt start today with Grey, he said as much in Kings Lynn the post match interview . Dressing room morale will suffer if players don't know whether they will be playing from one game to another. All successful teams go with the same 9 or 10 players game in game out.

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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
We have the worst keeper in the league. The most overrated midfielder in pools history making his 250th appearance and a forward line barring Armstrong that wouldn’t look great at Billingham towns level. A chairman that thinks we have got value for money and a manager that appears to have let the pressure get to him and seems to have lost the plot with these bargain basements.

Raj Singh might as well of sacked Challinor at the end of last season, because the standard of players he has been allowed to bring in will see to his exit shortly anyway.


Big mistake , playing Killip in front of a crowd of over 400 ( Braintree's average ) :laugh:

For all the players are generally not good enough, I do think DC has made the situation worse, dropping players after one below par performance , and staying loyal to others after 5 or 6 below par performances. I just knew he would'nt start today with Grey, he said as much in Kings Lynn the post match interview . Dressing room morale will suffer if players don't know whether they will be playing from one game to another. All successful teams go with the same 9 or 10 players game in game out.


How Kilip is still getting a game is beyond me it could only happen at Hartlepool, that is just the start of our very big problems, two players, experienced players in Donaldson and featherstone are almost robbing a wage off us, one is not up to it, the other can only pass the ball sideways and we all wonder why we get overrun game in game out in midfield, when was the last time Featherstone set up a goal? Scored? he is conning the public by playing short passes playing it safe all the time. Then we have the new signings are any of them actually up to the standard of this league? Oates was a joke signing, Ferguson seems ok going forward and that’s it, the rest hardly done anything of note.

How many more managers do some of these players need to see off before we say hang on your the problem. We need to start all over again, this team is shocking two points from the play offs is a false position, it’s masquerading how bad they are, Torquay showed us up to what we are, weak, gutless no pride and most of all slow and poor footballers.

We are banking on Armstrong to be our saviour, how will he get goals with this team trying to set him up, the lads on a loser straight away.

We will now plummet down the table with the games we have coming up. I know that and I’m sure Challinor knows it too.


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Have to agree, people will say the doom-mongers are on but the cold hard facts are since the win at Maidenhead we've taken only 9 points out of the 30 available, carry that average through the rest of the season and your looking at 45 points at the finish. Our true current league position is about 15th.

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Challoner has definitely lost the plot, he assembled this squad and I think he realises it's not good enough. He doesn't know which his best starting eleven is, and his treatment of Macdonald is nothing short of disgraceful.


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Anyone else buy the Sun yesterday
Page 11.
Hpool n the Tees valley the only area in the NE which could move down to tier 2 on Wednesday.
If by some strange decision it happens I won't be one of the 500 who can apply for a £19 ticket to watch a team that clearly aren't giving 100% commitment.
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I’m glad I don’t have to watch something that painful every week. Part time Woking were better all over the pitch. Typical of a team with the right mentality pressing and chasing every time Pools had the ball, hardly surprising after the start they had. The second goal was due to a failed clearance attempt Even at 2 up, the Woking fans were concerned we were still a danger. The shot straight at their keeper was the best it got for us. Goal 3 was just awful. Great match for the Woking fans and their team will be taking points off our rivals too.


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Worst thing was failing to even have an impact after they went down to 10. I got the impression Woking sat back at 3-0 , had they wanted to , I'm sure had they wanted to and with 11 men they could've inflicted even more damage and could easily have been a 5-0 defeat.

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 Post subject: Re: Woking v Pools predictions
PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 1:02 pm 
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[quote="frankie1966"]Challoner has definitely lost the plot, he assembled this squad and I think he realises it's not good enough. He doesn't know which his best starting eleven is,
honestly do we know the best starting 11. his squad was always at the start thin on the ground with replacements not being of the quality of those that left. not his fault as i doubt quite a few would not have been signed up by teams with more money to spend. said before about challinor which showed last season. he is the right man but at present in the wrong club.


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