Halifax away

Full draw

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A Pools away tie? Never! I can't remember the last time we drew away in a cup competition. Must of been about three weeks?

Lost once away surely a good thing being drawn away?

Darlington / City Of Liverpool v Coleshill / AFC Telford
Hitchin T / Peterborough Sports v Basford United / Felixstowe
FC Halifax Town v Hartlepool United
Alfreton / Bedford T v King’s Lynn Town
Solihull Moors v Gateshead / Farsley Celtic
Wrexham AFC v Undecided
Altrincham v Chester / Bradford PA
Stockport County v Guiseley / Chorley
Ashton Utd / York City v Kettering / Nuneaton B
Spennymoor Town / Marske v Undecided
Blyth Spartans / Morpeth v Notts County
Undecided v Hereford / St Neots T
Chesterfield v Brackley / Royston
Evesham / Boston Utd v Curzon Ash / AFC Fylde
Dorking Wanderers / Hungerford T v Barnet
Weymouth v Maidenhead United
Welling / Oxford City v Concord / Truro City
Aveley / Chesham v Torquay United
Dagenham & Redbridge v Ebbsfleet U / Chippenham
St Alb City / Cray Wands v Sutton United
Dulwich Ham / Cheshunt v Tonbridge A / AFC H’church
Welwyn GC / Burgess H v Aldershot Town
Bracknell / Hav & Wat v Billericay / Braintree
Bath City / Chelmsford v Swindon S / Carshalton
Slough Town / Dartford v Haringey B / E’bourne Bor
Bromley v Cor-Casuals / Hemel H
Boreham Wood v Yeovil Town
Woking v Dover Athletic
Undecided v Undecided
Maidstone / Poole Town v Frome Town / Hamp & Rich
Wealdstone v Eastleigh

I say it every year, but even more so this year, as no chance of automatic promotion and little chance of reaching play offs. We should be going all out to win this and get to Wembley for the first time and put a real trophy in our trophy cabinet, assuming we even have a trophy cabinet.

Undecided V Undecided has to the tie of the round.

Undecided should just edge that one.

Darlo v Liverpool ?? that could easily generate 250k for the club..we don't get em easy this season.

City of Liverpool that is, like comparing City of London airport to Heathrow

Can't remember if we flew into Teeside airport or what after we lifted the Trophy at Wembley mr paulus.

, our trophy cabinet is full Mr Sussex, the cleaners need somewhere to keep the pledge.

We are in the play off places, so although i havent been that positive lately about promotion we are literally in the play off spots right now.

We have a squad of 22 players, we should be mixing it up for this competition which ultimately means nothing.

I wouldnt get excited about lifting the fa trophy, i'd rather get out this league and have nothing to do with it tbh.

Its a big long season, saturday tuesday virtually every single week, we dont need anymore games.

at least i can get to this one if halifax drops into tier 2. doubt they,d sell 2,000 tickets for a trophy game anyway.

Why not win the trophy and get out of the league? We are in the play off places and need to stay there, but I honestly think when the fat lady sings we will fall short .

What will happen is what always happens, we will sacrifice winning the trophy so that we can concentrate on finishing mid table in the league , and someone like Halifax will make the play offs and the final of the FA Trophy. The attitude of our club and supporters has to change, it really has , only then will the club have any chance of getting out of this league.

This attitude of too many games , is the same one , us lower league supporters used to level at the super clubs when they disrepected us for fielding weakened teams against us in the FA Cup 3 rd round, now we do are prepared to do the same against clubs lower down the pyramid. The game has gone.

Tbf i'd have scrapped it this year, along with the league cup and the football league trophy.

It has no real financial benefit, fans may not even be allowed in wembley too see it.

Scrap the league cup to help the england team.

TBF, this is one year, when I could cut Pools some slack for seeing the competition as a bit of a hindrance, for all the reasons you have mentioned Phil, but I also think its long overdue that Pools start to make their mark on the football world by winning its first real trophy , someone will win it , why not us? . Last years FA Trophy final hasn't even been concluded yet.

Why is it always us though, who make early exit from FA Cup, Trophy and withdraw from DCC ? its not as though doing all these things have helped out, in our quest to get out of the NL. You can say we have to many games, but on the flipside you could argue, we have players , who by virtue of us not having a reserve or youth team, need these competitions to get game time. That obviously contradicts my belief that we should be putting our full strength sides out in order to win the games, but it does provide a reason for keeping the competitions.

When all is said and done though, if clubs see these competitions as a hindrance then they should be scrapped, but how would that affect the game, especially at the lower level, levels below us? do you really want to live in a world where a player turning out say for the likes of Seaham Red Star in a FA Cup qualifying game in late August is robbed of the possibility of living the dream of playing at Pools in the 1st round proper, or at Anfield in the 3rd round , likewise playing at Pools in the trophy or at Wembley.

Be careful what you wish for, the game is going , going , and one day with attitudes like this it will be gone. All that will be left will be a European Super League and a Premier League where Liverpool will play their reserves v Newcastle.

We aren’t good enough this season to win the fa trophy. Squad is poor in my opinion whether we are 7th or not. Even Tuesday night against a part time team, with the worst defence in the league we only had 4 shots on target against them. We would have to sign more quality because as soon as we come up against the slightly better teams we tend to be found out. Maybe with Armstrong now we might bridge that gap to the top teams a bit more, but once the Stockports and Notts county’s crop up no doubt we will be found wanting again.

I agree , though I think we could win the Trophy, if the club had the desire for it , you never know in cups, we could get good draws all the way through to the final, but I doubt it, for the reasons you explain. I said at start of the season , we would finish between 7th and 10th, if everything went as well as it could do , then I felt we could sneak into play offs , and then get beat in them of course. No way could this squad start off with a handicap, which basically is what 7th place is , and then win play off final at Wembley. Up until Kings Lynn though it looked like DC was shaping a team up to finish well below 10th place. Armstrong has give us a lift, and that for me could be the difference between 7th and 10th , but being realistic we have a squad where many of the best players are here on loan, Liddle and Williams we are unlikely to see again. A good team would've put 4 or 5 past Kings Lynn , we never and that says a lot, without Armstrongs goals, it quite probably would've been a goalless draw.

Withdrawing from the DCC wasn't the clubs fault. It was because the Durham FA were not willing to move a cup fixture despite Pools having a very congested season. From my experience the Durham FA are the biggest pack of bureaucratic jobsworths I have ever come across in my lifetime. I'm so, so, so glad Pools were kicked at the Durham cup.

For me the FA Trophy exists in limbo. The clubs that take it seriously will usually be too weak to win it. The club's that can actually win it have bigger fish to fry such as promotion or the FA Cup.

That been said I wouldn't say no to an FA Trophy run.

Agree the FA and its county associations leave a lot to be desired. Take the top of this post, I tried to post the draw off the FA website, but couldn't because their shitty website won't allow you to do that, you have to download a PDF document. Anyway back on topic, I think its a bad day when clubs disrepect their county cup and a bad day in Pools case when they can't field a team, although I wouldnt normally take this view, could they not of just fielded any team , and just got knocked out rather than pull out?.

As I said earlier the bigger fish to fry analogy you use BB , is the same one the super clubs use in regards to the FA Cup.

The FA want the England team to flourish and complain about too many games, yet they have created more meaningless fixture backlogs with the creation of the Papa John trophy.

IMO the game is slowly being dismantled for the greater good of those at the top at the expense of those at the bottom, all the fun and pleasure will eventually be drained out of supporting a lower league team. There will be no point if in future there are no cups and the dreams that come with winning them at Wembley etc

Pools have won fook all, even the DCC would be a start. FFS! even Darlo won the FA Trophy when they came down into the NL against a backdrop of off the field uncertainty

[quote="horden"]I agree , though I think we could win the Trophy, if the club had the desire for it , you never know in cups, we could get good draws all the way through to the final, but I doubt it,
think this season more than most due to fixture backlogs the trophy is really wide open if you get decent draws. cannot see pools either going down or making the play offs. however i can see many in our league playing really weakened sides that end up with a final something like dorking v chorley. every dog has its day and if pools really wanted this year could be theirs.

A real trophy? Funny how times change!

Would be a bummer if you did finally get to Wembley and there was still massive restrictions on fans travelling or attending games!

We've won the DCC a few times horden
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durham_Challenge_Cup

We have enough problems doing well over these next 5 or 6 games, Teams that will be up there, I will be shocked if we are still anywhere near the top 7 after the Xmas and new year period. Woking away not sure we have ever won there, Halifax three times scoring for fun which is not great signs for a pools team that can’t score goals, Stockport at home a team probobly way too good for us and Notts county away a team we never beat away, throw in an Eastleigh team as good as anything in the league and Challinor will of done some job even if we’re in sniffing distance of the top after that,with such a weak squad.

Are you sure it wasnt Shotton International Airport?

I know, I was at present at many of the games. I was referring to this season and the last few years, need to start afresh and win something, anything, to lay down a marker. I remember around 15 of us going to Darlo on the train one night in late 80s, when we won the DCC, around 50 poolies in a crowd of 1000. Another time we beat them 7-0 at home around the same time, and a Saturday game, one of only times I remember Bob Newton playing at Feethams for us, he rarely if ever played in the league at Feethams, either in jail , hospital, injured or suspended, that day we won 4-1 I think, a few hundred travelling through for that one in a crowd of around 1500

Just realised we play Halifax 3 times within a fortnight, FFS ! same as Harrogate last season, our bad luck in cup draws continues

Jason Ainsley been sacked at Spennymoor after 14 years service.
Took Spenny from Northern League div two to more than holding their own in NLN.
Apparently their millionaire chairman not happy that they not playing Pools in non league's elite division.
I'm sure we were 7 divisions above them about 10 years ago.
Now it's only one.

Ambitious chairman of a club with 2000 fans less than us.
Anyway good luck to them cos after Pools I like to see all the North East clubs doin ok even Darlow.

Hindsight is a strange thing but imagine 11 years ago putting a £30 bet on that Pools would be in the Vanarama league.
Darlo York n Spenny in NLN.
Sunderland in division 3 n struggling.
Would of been a nice little earner as Arthur Daley used to say.

Some different views above regarding whether Pools should take the FA Trophy seriously.

I share the same views as Mr Horden.
These teams that put weakened teams out n say they want to concentrate on their divisional priority's is just a bullshit excuse for failure.
It happens in the divisions above us in the FA Cup.
At the end of the day a professional footballer gets a decent wage for a part time 20 hours a week job.

I know it's a short career but every football team/club players should treat every game with 100% commitment.

UTP.

All the memories people have talked about on here over the years, playing Ipswich, Man City, Forest, Stoke, Villa, Chelseas etc., that all ends when even smaller clubs like Pools start to think they're too big for the cups.

Talking about the FA Trophy like it's not worth winning - I'd expect that from bean counters and the type of businessmen who see everything in terms of £ signs. As supporters we should want our team to win every competition we enter, from the County Cup to the FA Cup. Or what's the sodding point of a football club?

Every game should be approached with the same mental approach, you cross the white line to win not lose.

My earliest memory of the Durham Senior Cup was about 1953, my mother took me and a friend (Freddy McBean later a well known butcher in Wagga) to a night match at Gateshead. I think we won 7 - 2 with Kenny Johnson scoring 4 or 5.

Great memories Johnjo. I always thought we won it a couple of times in the late 80s, obviously not.

Blackhall must've had a good team either side of the war.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durham_Challenge_Cup

[quote="kevin pooles gloves"]Some different views above regarding whether Pools should take the FA Trophy seriously.

I share the same views as Mr Horden.
These teams that put weakened teams out n say they want to concentrate on their divisional priority's is just a bullshit excuse for failure.
It happens in the divisions above us in the FA Cup.
At the end of the day a professional footballer gets a decent wage for a part time 20 hours a week job.

I know it's a short career but every football team/club players should treat every game with 100% commitment.

its not the players themselves its clubs who see fit to rest as many of its better players as possible in attempts to win cup games. those at the bottom of the premier league will lose more money being relegated than they would by winning the cup. those at the top have one interest and thats european football the next season. if pools ever manage a 3rd round game against a premier league club youd buy your ticket and when they announced the opposition you would not recognise hardly any of the names.

Even a couple grand from winning a FA Trophy round sounds good to me this season ..Just ask any NL Chairman and they'd back me up on this.

I remember Freddy from hpool golf club about 40 years ago.( how time fly's by ).
I spent most of my teenage life on the golf course as did the rest of the junior members.
Happy days many of which were 3 rounds a day in the summer.
Nowadays I'm destroyed afta 18 holes around Throston.

As for DSC I'm sure I saw us win it twice in the 80s.

Be carefull what you wish for Mr Horden, if I'm not mistaken the last team to achieve that was York City

His daughter Beverley was my girlfriend was I was at school.