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Well done to the responsible within the community.

I will be attending 'The Valley' tonight after being successful in the Ballot for tickets, for a 7.45pm kick off i've been given an arrival time of 6pm, so look forward to freezing 'my nuts off' for about 4 hours, i hope i get to see a good game & a win.
One of the clubs sponsors will be providing a free hot chocolate for each of the 2,000 fans.
I hope your fans get an opportunity to return to 'The Vic' as soon as possible, below is a link to a video showing the procedures to follow for attending a match at 'The Valley'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIIJwBD8lAc

Personally am in no rush to watch a game that is totally different from the one I was used to, half the fans missing, not being able to stand with your mates, do this , do that etc. Each to their own , but not for me

I'll either get my enthusiasm back or I won't. Couldn't care less either way.

think that comes to us all eventually. normally its brought on by poor team performances and games. now with getting out of the habit of attending you do lose enthusiasm and end up with not caring less. after a month of reffing i actually aint looking forward to sunday now and am actually dreading it a bit. no changing rooms available so if its pissing down i,m afraid a phone call from me will be the order of the day.

Personally am in no rush to watch a game that is totally different from the one I was used to, half the fans missing, not being able to stand with your mates, do this , do that etc. Each to their own , but not for me

I am pretty much left the same mindset horden, it's the do this do that , that would miss me off, especially when it would be down to interpretation.

perfect example of that,last Christmas New year was shouted at by steward...no drinking alcohol in stand!!!! Stood in Townend sharing a hip flask. Something I've done for nearly 40 year, at that time of year until Christmas past!! Total lack of common sense.

I am pretty much left the same mindset horden, it's the do this do that , that would miss me off, especially when it would be down to interpretation.

perfect example of that,last Christmas New year was shouted at by steward...no drinking alcohol in stand!!!! Stood in Townend sharing a hip flask. Something I've done for nearly 40 year, at that time of year until Christmas past!! Total lack of common sense.

Be very interesting to hear what supporters experience is like after games or provide link, Charltondave love to hear you take on it, and any other supporters .
Cambridge have took advice on crowd control from N Korea...remember you Will enjoy yourselfs! Regardless of outcome.

My feelings after a very Long evening at 'The Valley'
Arrived at 6pm entry into the ground was quite smooth, temperature checked at the turnstile, in my seat within five minutes.
All catering facilities were closed, but was able to pick up a free hot chocolate from a kiosk, no loitering or socialising was permitted in the concourses.
The weather was cold & damp, being a glasses wearer was a problem with them getting steamed up every few minutes. Masks had to be worn at all times, except when eating or drinking of course.
The Valley has big screen, so highlights of previous games were shown, there was also a quiz, where questions were shown on the screen & relayed over the tannoy. It felt like an eternity until both teams started there pre match warm ups.
We were outplayed from the first minute & were lucky to lose 1-0, the crowd tried their utmost to create an atmosphere but it was almost impossible with 2,000 people wearing masks in 3 stands in a 27,000 capacity stadium.
Exit from the ground was very slow,block by block, row by row, i exited the ground at 9.55.
With no pubs open it was straight home.
I will not be to unhappy if i'm not selected in the next ticket ballot.

Thanks for that Clive ,not good is it? sounds sterile and boring and merely confirms why I won't be attending games until normal service is properly resumed, if it ever is.

I'll second what Horden said, Clive.
Thanks for your report and giving your time to write it.

when you read all the do,s and don,ts at football grounds it only shows to me that it is not safe to watch a live game if you have to follow all the stuff they require you to do. if that was part of your job you,d be telling all your mates about what a dangerous job you have due to all the rules you have to follow.

A report in London's evening paper
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/footba ... 51660.html

Football clubs are going through ridiculous hoops to satisfy a different set of jobsworths, when all the evidence is that being outside in the open air carries next to no risk. You might get pneumonia going through the rigmarole Charltonclive had to put up with but it's very unlikely you'll catch Covid.

Seems the biggest problem is going to be storing the Pfizer vaccine, which is why hospitals will probably get it first as care homes can't cope with the deep temperature required to handle it. Maybe they might look at getting care home residents into hospitals where possible to get the vaccine. The easier option will be the Oxford one as the temperature problem isn't as acute.
Glad it's not me who has to decide but I have no doubt whichever way public health go, the media will criticise them. Damned if they do and damned if they don't. Maybe we should let the Guardian et al make the decision, with the proviso that if the knowalls get it wrong the newspaper closes down.
It really is a sad state of affairs that the experts have to continuously be subjected to intense scrutiny by journalists hell bent on point scoring, who would be the first to squeal if people like J Van Tam abandoned the fight, not to mention Sarah Gilbert of Oxford University who has devoted every waking moment since February pitting her wits and every fibre to find the vaccine answer while the media has spent every minute of every day finding fault.
I haven't bought newspapers for years and am so pleased that I made the right decision.
They haven't had a useful purpose since fish shops were stopped from serving the chips in them. Public health deemed it was poisoning our bodies, maybe they should look at the effect they are having on our minds. It's no wonder that circulation is declining and thousands are cancelling their TV licence.

Thought of you Derwent , when I saw this

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Football clubs are going through ridiculous hoops to satisfy a different set of jobsworths, when all the evidence is that being outside in the open air carries next to no risk. You might get pneumonia going through the rigmarole Charltonclive had to put up with but it's very unlikely you'll catch Covid.

There is a serious danger to lower league clubs post all this pandemic stuff that hasn't been discussed This is the matter of people breaking the habit of going to games. I can think of several people who were lifelong attenders of games both home and away and would move heaven and Earth not to miss a game. Then for reasons that don't need going into they stopped going and found other things to do and decided that that time was better spent doing these other things.

I wonder if a lot of others go through the same thought process and decide that life doesn't stop after all if you don't stand on a terrace every Saturday.

There is a serious danger to lower league clubs post all this pandemic stuff that hasn't been discussed This is the matter of people breaking the habit of going to games. I can think of several people who were lifelong attenders of games both home and away and would move heaven and Earth not to miss a game. Then for reasons that don't need going into they stopped going and found other things to do and decided that that time was better spent doing these other things.

I wonder if a lot of others go through the same thought process and decide that life doesn't stop after all if you don't stand on a terrace every Saturday.

I mentioned it months ago , but I imagine you are talking about those involved in the running of the game/clubs. Its not just the breaking of a habit , but the incoming shit storm that will follow this pandemic, job losses , wage cuts, etc. This pandemic will make many people, either forced or voluntary to press the reset button and re-evaluate their lifestyles, it has not only exposed the flaws in a Capitalist society ( though I'd rather not get into a political argument ) but highlighted the vast wealth of clubs and players wages etc, and like life itself the huge gap between those at the top and those at the bottom. Anyone who thinks there will be a 1946 style crowds bonanza are living in cloud cuckoo land, I envisage at least 500 not returning to Pools, some will have died of course, hope I'm proved wrong.

My point is similar to yours in that over this year people have looked at a lot of things in their life and reassessed what's really important to them.

Sorry Mr H, I forgot you had said something similar. My point is similar to yours in that over this year people have looked at a lot of things in their life and reassessed what's really important to them.

I went for a haircut in Stockton just before the last lockdown and there were 3 staff, 3 getting cuts and 2 waiting in a small, badly ventilated room with the front door shut. The staff had those visors on but none of the customers were wearing masks because they get in the way of the shears. I thought at the time that if I'm ever going to catch Covid this is just the sort of situation where it'll happen, but they're all open again now - even in Tier 3.

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I always feel a lot better after my Turkish barber has burned off my ear hair off with a bunsen burner tbh.

There is a serious danger to lower league clubs post all this pandemic stuff that hasn't been discussed This is the matter of people breaking the habit of going to games. I can think of several people who were lifelong attenders of games both home and away and would move heaven and Earth not to miss a game. Then for reasons that don't need going into they stopped going and found other things to do and decided that that time was better spent doing these other things.

I wonder if a lot of others go through the same thought process and decide that life doesn't stop after all if you don't stand on a terrace every Saturday.

Just had a chuckle to myself after hearing that any thoughts of seeing my daughter in North Wales have been dashed.
The Heddlu (Welsh cops) are using ANPR at the border to stop cars from high risk areas in England entering the Principality.
Based on the fact i would be identified as from tier 3 with Hartlepool having 269 cases per 100,000 and Gwynedd is 35 per 100,000 (and that includes Bangor University!) i would only expect an anti tank shell into my car curtesy of the Welch Regiment.

Chelsea tomorrow

"For ballot for Leeds game, Club Chelsea members offered "premium plated package. Luxury seat in West Stand middle tier. Glass of Champagne on arrival. Pre-match three-course fine dining. Complimentary bar inc beer, wine, house spirits, soft drinks. Teamsheet & programme". £470."