[quote="derwent"]I haven't got an opinion on the alleged rumours as to whether or not these people were in fact the very same ones who allegedly were supposed to be interested in taking over Pools.
However Raj indicated that the so called interested party wanted him to walk away and let them take over. That would be a very similar situation to what has happened at Wrexham.
Raj said that he would rather give the club to the fans if he was going to give it away.
Reading between the lines Raj is saying that, having invested £2.4M in the club, there was no way he was going to just wipe out his investment, take a peppercorn payment and walk away, thus writing his investment off.
Maybe that is why some Poolies are putting two and two together and speculating that the Americans who have talked their way into Wrexham and, let's face it that's all they have done so far, had the very same intention with Pools.


The Wrexham shirt sponsors must already be delighted with their return on investment..............now imagine if our shirt sponsors had featured in video featuring two Hollywood A listers?

OK, I'll get my coat...............

[quote="Johnjo1"]Accrington would like a ‘local’ person to take over Pools but as I pointed out apart from IOR there has never been what I call a ‘really rich’ person take over the club.
i,d love a local person to own pools. more likely they,d be there for the long haul and not treat the club as a new toy that they quickly get bored with. teams that have been in a worse or similar position than pools over the last 20 odd years have been helped by having a good local owner who either lives or had his roots in the area. john ryan at doncaster, andy holt at accrington and now mark stott at stockport, the original basket case. pools have similar potential as 2 and more than the other with success. someone who bankrolled pools to the championship would get their own statue somewhere in the town.

Euromillions 116 million jackpot tomorrow night. I buy a ticket in the hope of winning and then taking over Pools.

I would work my bollocks off for 5-10 years improving the club then hand over the reigns to someone I thought could carry on the good work , whilst always keeping an eye on things from a distance and been a phone call away if anyone needed help.

Unfortunately Hartlepool rarely produces millionaires, if it does, they leave and tell people down South they are from the North East not Hartlepool and they support Newcastle, Sunderland or Liverpool, it's just the way it is , and it's easy to see why.

I'm with ya there Biggers - Raj is just a greedy bastard, he should of just took the cheeky mill and pissed off.

Can you imagine though?!??!? We would have been in FANTASY LAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111

I have no idea why Raj wanted to come into Pools or what his motives are but at the moment I do know if he hadn’t come in we may well have been playing in the Northern League. At the moment there are questions over his management style but he is apparently still allowing DC to bring players in and I suspect he is still either putting his hand in his pocket or loaning money. The problem is as I keep saying he is not rich by rich mans standards with money to throw away. How you can call him a greedy bxxxxxxx I don’t know.
I read one Premier Chairman say you start as a Billionaire and finish as a Millionaire. OK tongue in cheek but you get the message.

DC will have known he needed a proven striker during the summer, I'm convinced of it, my guess is had one in mind and was knocked back by Raj. DC had to bring some players in, in order to be able to field a team, but at the back of his mind he wouldve known the ones he brought in were a gamble, a gamble that at the moment looks like it hasnt paid off.

The problem now is. what sort of decent players are available at this stage of the season, even if money was available, of course if it was, then the surely the same aforementioned scenario would unfold.

We all acknowledge Raj saved us , there was no one else in the queue and for that we are grateful. He may think he cant afford to spend any more money , but can he afford not to? in normal circumstances probably not, but in Covid circumstances I think he will be quite happy to just get through this season. There may be mutterings of discontent on Social Media but that pales into significance compared to hostile and falling crowds due to not having that marquee striker. Falling crowds and loss of interest in the club as a result also costs you money. So either way you either spend money and possibly make more money or you don't spend money and possibly lose more money, but as I say Covid has/will buy Raj some time.

At the end of the day we may end up in the Northern League anyway.

All free transfers are a gamble as I have said before if you sign 5 or six you are lucky to get 2 or 3 successes.
By the way I think Horden has a fixation on us being in the Northern League and won’t be happy until it happens and he can say I told you so.

Not really a fixation, just seems the logical way to start, after a club has went into administration, unlike Darlo it would probably take us 2 seasons to get out of it

I think we should call Horden the king of Job’s comforters.

Jeff Besoz takes over Darlo..Elon Musk takes over Pools..sounds fair??

Geoff from Rainbow takes over Darlow would be more like it. I’ve heard Raj has already turned Elon down which is fair enough I reckon.

Failing to see what cigarette papers have to do with anything

or go into administration, then not have a credible owner and end up being another bury or macclesfield. FC Ununited of Hartlepool playing in leagues below the northern league. things do not always pan out the way anyone wants. ask a few fans of the defunct new brighton that are still alive what their hopes were when they were still a non league saturday club.

That's the problem in a nutshell. If the worst happened and it was down to the fans to save the club, we are such a contrary bunch that FC Ununited of Hartlepool is as likely an outcome as 'doing a Darlington.' Just the act of creating a Hartlepool supporters trust generated no end of feuding and bad blood.

just wonder if pools are just a one off in all this and fans of other clubs equally as bad in the present world once things go sour on and off the field at their clubs.

I think Dave Challinor is the latest in quite a long list of people to say Poolies are an exceptionally critical bunch. You could say that's because we're exceptionally disappointed, but the likes of Stockport, Wrexham and Torquay had to endure even longer spells in non-league before their recent upturn in fortunes. Not to mention Barrow!

Maybe we are just exceptionally entitled in attitude?

The excuses at pools for not winning games gets more ridiculous every season, first of all it’s because the fans were so vicious towards the players, despite 3500 turning up week in week after season upon season of rubbish, I’ve even heard applause after some total dreadful performances. Now I’m hearing hints off the manager that it’s down to social media not helping the team. Nothing to do with the fact that the team maybe shit.

If this club didn’t expect to get some sort of backlash after the Torquay game and following games then they are not on the same planet. Stop the blaming other things it’s time we got our act together, starting tomorrow by actually maybe scoring a goal and then winning the game, then maybe at home actually winning a game or two would be nice as well,then they will get all the pats on the backs , plaudits they deserve. It’s not the fans fault we signed 4 forward players, who haven’t got five goals a season in them.

I'm one of the thousands who go to games so I agree with that. The comments coming out of the ground after another rubbish performance are what you'd expect, and different again after a decent win. Back in the day most fans went to the pub after a shite match and got it out of their system over a few pints. There wasn't social media to stoke resentment 24/7.

I thought DC had said some fans were quick to criticise players and he'd rather they direct that at him if that's what people wanted to do. Most of them are young lads and it doesn't help them. If you felt you had ability but people kept telling you that you were shit all the time, its not going to help your confidence level or your motivation. We had a better start than I expected and now we have a lull, not a crisis. Clearly some of the signings are going to take a while to bed in. Personally I think it is too early to write players off. DC hasn't complained about an inability to sign the players he wanted unless I missed it. They are his signings and he has the support of the chairman who has said that there needs to be sensible financial control. We've had however many seasons of poor performances, lack of effort, swindling owners and however disappointing that has been we do need to draw a line under it and move on. Raj never promised to bank roll us to the premiership, but he's made improvements behind the scenes financially and he might have done more but for the pandemic. There's a fair way to go but if I was him I'd want some level of encouragement and acknowledgement, recognition or whatever you want to call it before I made more of a commitment. The prospect that there is someone else out there with a blank cheque book probably doesn't exist. I don't like the phrase, but we are where we are, moving in the right direction hopefully we can be sustainable. Where results are concerned we can be critical in the right way, maybe even be supportive to players when things aren't going their way, what's the worst that can happen? Performances haven't been that bad, frustrating that we haven't done better but there we go. And before anyone says it my secret ambition is always to win the first 46 games every season.......

I am inclined to agree, we could be the first club that wouldn't be capable of reforming in shape or form. I honestly think if we had went out of the league in 1972 , we would've followed a route similar to Bradford PA or Workington , fortunately we never got to find out.

I'm one of the thousands who go to games so I agree with that. The comments coming out of the ground after another rubbish performance are what you'd expect, and different again after a decent win. Back in the day most fans went to the pub after a shite match and got it out of their system over a few pints. There wasn't social media to stoke resentment 24/7.[/quote]
fans are not as stupid as players or managers actually they think they are. we know when players are having good or bad games. its the highlight of the week for some and among these are people struggling to pay the entrance fee never mind a season ticket. pools fans are very suppostive of a good side and a good performance and are equally show the players disgust over a bad one. if this is true more at the vic than anywhere else it shows that fans care. not a load of happy clappers at every game. players themselves know deep down how they have played and managers know the same regarding tactics, starting line ups and substitutions. however unlike fans excuses are made .

Whilst I agree with most of what Accrington says I don’t think Pools fans are any worse than fans at most clubs. It’s a football thing for supporters to have an opinion on games and players.

exactly. at away games you are miles from the home fans anyway and cannot hear their moans if pools win. who can be arsed to go on their messageboards either to read their versions and the end of their clubs being neigh.