Pleased you said that about Challinor Derwent. I noticed weeks ago, but didnt dare mention it in case I was accused of being negative or stirring up trouble , but I said to a friend " Is it me or do you think DC is looking a bit haggard lately " same happened to Hignett , the Pools job seems to age people.

There is definitely , as we would say in Blackhall, a rabbit off, something isnt right, and DCs facial expressions and demeanour of late gives it away. Then last week we have Scobbie leaving and the following day a new job advertised. I'm not sure if Raj does partnerships that well, no one seems to last long.

Demand success straightaway? really ? 4 years in NL, 112 years without winning anything, you're surely having a laugh ?

And about not getting every decision right , to be fair I don't think Raj has got much right.

If you include Craig Liddle as caretaker, we had 6 managers in just over 2 years under Singh at Darlo.
Colin Todd, Steve Staunton, Simon Davey, Ryan Kidd, Mark Cooper and then Liddle when the plug was pulled.

good one!!!

IOR didn’t do bad on the managers count must have been about fifteen including temps. and we’d have them back tomorrow.

Out of the whole bunch of them only Mark Cooper has had any kind of success since. Come to that, Matty Bates and Craig Hignett are also out of football. Simmo was made redundant because of the Covid crisis. So was Maguire, who is now a freelance 'consultant,' as is Jesper, who never pretended he wanted the job full time. Football is a tough business, especially for ex-managers. For every super-loyal, supportive chairman like Steve Gibson there are a dozen Raj Singhs.

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Never trust a person who uses the word GUYS, or go for a drink in a pub with a flat roof.

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Maybe they'd had one gin too many and started talking like yanks??


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I may be wrong on Challinor but i've seen a lot of unhappy bunnies in my time and, at the moment, he is on the list. Time will tell.

Has Raj owned the club for 4 years? I don’t think he has. I’m suggesting he deserves some credit. I’m not having a laugh no. Stop copying and pasting and overreacting horden. You say some sensible stuff on occasions, I’ll give you that but you’re like a stuck record and I don’t agree with you, which I think is okay. Who else did you have lined up to bail the club out a few years ago because I must have missed that. Now you don’t want to help the club with your not a penny more of my hard earned money type stuff. If you’d have tried harder earlier us younger supporters wouldn’t be in this mess. Where did you do wrong?

And you say I'm like a stuck record

So it's us older supporters to blame is it? its because of us Raj had a club to buy. You younger supporters don't have a clue, just blind loyalty to a person who ultimately will see the club go out of business. Personally I wasn't bothered whether Raj saved us or not ( apologies for the record getting stuck again) as I knew it was just delaying the inevitable , keeping the life support machine on a little longer , I said it then and 2 years in it is beginning to unravel. I would rather of us went bust and then just started again in front of one man and his dog, only this time get it right.

Oh dear. Re-re-re-re-rewind.

You must at least be grateful that there is something still around to complain about?

Not really . but at HUFC there will always be something to complain about. You just keep on supporting whoever is making the mistakes.

I will do thanks. Well, until I know for certain otherwise. And you continue to not care either way eh?

Raj Singh made a complete mess of darlo, he seems to be heading in exactly the same direction with us, the three wins at the start of the season will soon be a thing of the past. The last thing we needed was a couple of multi millionaires ready to throw cash at us, bloody hell we might of been good for a few seasons, now we don’t want that do we? Matter of time before we are part time.

Let's see how we go against Wrexham tomorrow night and at Yeovil on Saturday. He'll be like a dog with two dicks if the poor run continues, because being proved right is so much more important than Pools getting some decent results.

Personally I think it's a bit too early to write anybody off, especially on the basis of one really poor result. Look at Maidenhead. We beat them 4-0 at their place just over a month ago, now they're 4th in the table on the back of 5 wins on the belt. And Pools are 4 points behind them with 2 games in hand.

Him and a couple of others on here. It’s like they forget there’s a pandemic on as well. If At least we are in the mix in the new year that would be great, top ten and not too far adrift. Reynolds and his mate will be putting £20 in to pools between them if theY both live stream. I hope we start well. UTP

Reported on the news tonight that this deal has been in the offing since May

Getting personal now are we?

You really don't have a clue do you? you only see what you want to see. One poor result? Really? What about Bromley, Altrincham ? Maidenhead slaughtered us in the first half, but I will give you that one, as this division is so unpredictable. Those type of results will happen regularly over the course of this season, both for and against us,
but you said it not me, Maidenhead are now 4th We threw the FA Cup at Salford with Challinor ridiculous team selection, and the same would probably have happened at Eastleigh if the rain hadn't saved our skins.

I want us to win more than anyone on here, to imply I dont want us to win is as bonkers as it is immature. Unlike you, when it comes to my football club, I don't accept mediocrity, its people like you and Double Figures who would be putting up the same defence if we were 8th in the Northern League in 10 years time. Its people like you , who will ensure HUFC will never ever be anything but a
laughing stock and the whipping boys of professional football.

Now be good lads and cut out the personal stuff, I never say anything on here I wouldn't say to someone's face, we know we don't agree and have different views, but lets for the good of the club and this board debate them like grown ups.

Put your dummy back in. Have you heard yourself? the great Hartlepool United wanting to be in the top ten and in the mix and not to far adrift WOW !

Every club in this league face the same pandemic issues, so it's a level playing field and can't be used as an excuse.

Still that 20 quid should help.

It’s all irrelevant anyway in my opinion. As soon as they got to hear about the 3 racist incidents they would have pulled out. Imagine the headlines once the press got involved, ‘Hollywood stars buy racist club’. The way the world is now with BLM they would end up never being able to make a film again. I don’t think we are a racist club by the way, we just have a few idiots like most clubs do.

Saying someone will be "like a dog with two dicks" (pleased) if something happens is a use of simile, as your "put your dummy back in" is a metaphor directed at Mr. Double Figures. I know which of the two I consider more insulting! It's of a piece with your patronising attitude to anyone who dares to disagree with you. " You younger supporters don't have a clue, just blind loyalty" - on and on with more of the same, "like a stuck record" (an apt use of simile by Mr. DF). Refusing to respect the opinions of others isn't 'debating like grown ups.'

Cynicism among older fans after decades of relative failure is one thing, but it's an odd sort of Poolie who regularly proclaims that HUFC is "a laughing stock and the whipping boys of professional football" and would rather that the club had gone out of business 2 years ago "and just started again in front of one man and his dog." That would be you presumably, and you'd still be telling the manager he'd got his team selection and tactics all wrong

Speaking of which, the evidence is that you vastly overrate your understanding of what happens on the pitch, when you come out with pearlers like "We threw the FA Cup at Salford with Challinor ridiculous team selection." In the real world, what manager wouldn't look to sort out his defence after conceding 5 really soft goals in the previous game? And how exactly is taking an away game to extra time evidence of throwing it away?

at least poolies speak to opposition fans in english and programme sellers do not turn their back on you when they hear you speaking english with a different accent to what they are used to hear. do not know what others think but visiting wrexham is not the friendly experiance i have encountered.

in the real world if the salford game had been a league game most fans would have been over the moon by a point there after 90 minutes and a clean sheet after the torquay shit fest. most teams during a season get hammered by someone but then eventually do the same to another club where everything just clicks in a game where you get the rub of the green etc. funny how chesterfield away only 12 months ago has more or less been forgotton but the toruay result will be passed down to grandchildren with them being told to pass it down to theirs.

Let's be fair, considering the Torquay game was a chance for us to go top 3, live on BT to the nation, and a game against the team who were currently top it was a car crash of a performance. Told you a great deal about our squads strength in depth, and flagged up so many flaws in the side it would be foolish to just brush it aside as a blip which didn't deserve constructive criticism.

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I have only been to Wrexham once and I'm not in a desperate rush to go back.
We have a few Welshmen in our village. If they beat England at Rugby, for weeks you meet one of them at every corner but if England win they go missing. There are exceptions of course, one of my best friends is Welsh and passionate but he is a gentleman and very often embarrassed by the antics of some of his countrymen. I have often considered that Welsh Clubs should be in a Welsh league until the day when we have a UK system, if that ever happens.
These two Americans are reported to have said they want the club to go global. I'm sure a couple of million will rocket them along that path.
Raj reckons he's put more than two million into Pools. I'm sure he'd be willing to share the secret of how much global recognition that has got us. I can't wait for the next draw in the European champions league to see who we are pitted against.
The whole Wrexham fanfare and hoo hah will be great until...............

know matter how bad the performance was all fans know pools have no strength in depth but its over now and lets move on. same as if we hammer someone. getting totally OTT about it is just as bad . next game is always the important one.

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These two Americans are reported to have said they want the club to go global. I'm sure a couple of million will rocket them along that path.

just wonder exactly what they mean by that statement. even the best thing available for em would be to do a bournemouth. do they think they,ll eventually have to build a 60,000 all seater stadium to accomodate all their new fans they will be in for a big shock. like pools and other clubs at non league and lower EFL levels there will be a minimum and maximum amount of fans that all clubs will ever get. could actually see another MK Dons situation of em moving wrexham to an area of higher population as a francise is more popular where these owners come from.

One of the reasons imo. We have never done so well in our history is apart from IOR we have never had an owner/chairman who could give a good financial backing. Years ago you didn’t have owners like today, in its place was generally a board with a chairman and a club secretary.
I believe at one time the chairman was the owner of a laundry in Raby Rd who gave the players jobs in the close season. Then there was the likes of John Curry,Vince Barker and Harold Hornsey among others. All well off people but not rich and did just enough to keep the club ticking over. In fact some of the directors had me scratching my head as to what input they had. At one time I was reliably told to be a director you had to put £5K into club each season. We did of course get help from Cameron’s and Yuills but that was only in the way of sponsorship .
Horden says he predicted our present demise 10yrs ago, come on it was always on the cards years before that.You didn’t need to be a brain surgeon to predict that.The number of times we escaped relegation by the skin of our teeth in the old format really showed what would eventually happen one day. In fact I believe Pools hold the record for applications to be re-elected.
Yes the day eventually came and sadly we are a non-league club but we still have a club and by non-league standards an above support. Yes 3000 who are glad that someone like Raj (whatever his motive) saved us from playing in front of one man and his dog. Sorry 2999 I forgot about the doom monger.
I am not optimistic as when we will eventually get back into the league but I’ll keep hoping but at my age I hope it’s soon.

I see Dominic Scurr says we need to get over the takeover. Why should we get over the takeover when Raj Singh was 100% responsible for it failing? The same people dickriding Raj now dickrided Gary Coxall a few years back

Incredible ! Can't stop laughing

I didnt go OTT about Torquay result, I expected us to get beat, admittedly not 5-0 like. It was the culmination of bad results, the Bromley and Altrincham results were worse in my book , 0-5 or 0-1 it wouldn't have made much difference to me, though had we beat Bromley and Altrincham it wouldn't have had the same impact.

I agree and had the same reaction. FH is spot on!

Tell your motley crew to send their Colonel next time, not the second lieutenant ,out of your depth.

I don’t have a crew horden, just an opinion I’m afraid. No conspiracy here. Enjoy tonight’s game.

Gary Coxall never had any intention of investing a penny in HUFC - he was just a potless chancer. Whatever anyone thinks of Raj Singh, he has put a load of his own money into Pools just to keep the club afloat. Money you'd have liked him to write off as a charitable donation to a couple of rich Yanks who want to make the footballing equivalent of Benefits Street.

The people who played the biggest roles in calling out Coxall - Mr. I, plus a bunch of others who mostly aren't even on this board these days - have got nothing to say now because they can see that it's a totally different situation.

As someone else has pointed out, as of yesterday the £2 million the Yanks have invested in Wrexham started paying for a big chunk of the club's operating costs. Like most of the owners in the NL, they'll be desperate for success to come quickly, or they'll need deeper pockets.

The same people on twitter n fb saying in raj we trust n forget this takeover are the same people who supported coxall till the end.

(PS I’ve checked)

I guess if your up the clubs backside it doesn’t matter who is in charge.

You’d think people would be a bit more wise too it now, but if you stick your neck out n say a few things against the club you don’t get freebies n invited to fan meetings representing absolutely no one.

Gibberish that. Coxall was outed from the start. Some people hoped for the best but he had nothing. IOR let us down in the end I’m afraid in their rush to relieve themselves of their interest. Raj hasn’t done anything wrong as yet. Hopefully he’ll be true to his words and won’t pay too much attention to some of the rubbish he reads

I’ll send you the twitter link.

The exact same people.

I don’t do twitter. Maybes I read your post wrong, but lots of people who are giving raj support weren’t supporters of Coxall, far from it.

We had plenty of warnings of the Darlo fans about what's goin to happen.

and how many of us took em seriously. never been the first to go on the knock raj bandwagon, however i always have doubts about people who move from one club to another in his capacity. we just need a proper poolie who actually would go the extra mile for the club. if not a poolie a local person who has a feeling for the town itself.

Rob has already gave £6,000 to give a disabled wrexham fan a disability friendly bathroom.

Football benefits street eh.

Raj wants to own the ground. Why does he want to own the ground....didn't Mr. Coxall also want that?

Raj normally donates double that to Ben houchen

Just to put your mind to rest. We were approached in May. Just a coincidence that we announced it just after your US consortium closed talks

Accrington would like a ‘local’ person to take over Pools but as I pointed out apart from IOR there has never been what I call a ‘really rich’ person take over the club. We have just muddled on just about keeping the club alive and to be honest I can’t see this changing. Wejust don’t have John Hall’s type with an effinity to Hartlepool. Before Raj took over there was an attempt to involve the Wynyard Park owner but he shied away. There again whilst being quite wealthy I don’t think he has money to throw away on a football club.

Mr. Wrexham 1864 - if you posted sworn affidavits from Reynolds and McElhenney to the effect that their representatives never approached HUFC you wouldn't convince the people who have already made up their minds that it's one more example of Pools snatching failure from the jaws of a glorious future.

Your lads should have been 2-0 down at half time but it was a good goal that won the game. All the best for the rest of the season - except the return fixture.

I haven't got an opinion on the alleged rumours as to whether or not these people were in fact the very same ones who allegedly were supposed to be interested in taking over Pools.
However Raj indicated that the so called interested party wanted him to walk away and let them take over. That would be a very similar situation to what has happened at Wrexham.
Raj said that he would rather give the club to the fans if he was going to give it away.
Reading between the lines Raj is saying that, having invested £2.4M in the club, there was no way he was going to just wipe out his investment, take a peppercorn payment and walk away, thus writing his investment off.
Maybe that is why some Poolies are putting two and two together and speculating that the Americans who have talked their way into Wrexham and, let's face it that's all they have done so far, had the very same intention with Pools.
We shall probably never know.
It does have a certain ring to it though.