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 Post subject: Gary Liddle
PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:00 pm 
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Out "for the foreseeable future" according to the Mail. Strange how we can't seem to catch a break (pardon the pun) with older players. Every team in the league has them in their squad - the Torquay team that thrashed us the other week had 3 in their mid-30s.


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 Post subject: Re: Gary Liddle
PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:16 pm 
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I did say in the summer he could be the next Michael Raynes, and I said as much to DC in June. It is strange how other clubs can sign older players and squeeze the last pips out of them, whilst the ones we sign , you would think they had it all worked out before they sign for the muggins of a club, planning one last pay day, getting paid whilst off on the sick.

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 Post subject: Re: Gary Liddle
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horden wrote:
I did say in the summer he could be the next Michael Raynes, and I said as much to DC in June. It is strange how other clubs can sign older players and squeeze the last pips out of them, whilst the ones we sign , you would think they had it all worked out before they sign for the muggins of a club, planning one last pay day, getting paid whilst off on the sick.


That's a terrible way to talk about players who are genuinely injured. There were no problems with Gary Liddle's fitness when he was on loan last season. Even Raynes with all his previous problems obviously loved playing, he was no fraudster.

That tete-a-tete with 'DC' you keep mentioning seems to have been quite extensive - hope he was taking notes :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Gary Liddle
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 Post subject: Re: Gary Liddle
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Hindsight is wonderful Liddell has played over 500 games in a virtual injury free career and his form last season probably earned him another year.
By the way Horden what did Challinor say when you gave him your view on Liddell?


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 Post subject: Re: Gary Liddle
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horden wrote:
I did say in the summer he could be the next Michael Raynes, and I said as much to DC in June. It is strange how other clubs can sign older players and squeeze the last pips out of them, whilst the ones we sign , you would think they had it all worked out before they sign for the muggins of a club, planning one last pay day, getting paid whilst off on the sick.


That's a terrible way to talk about players who are genuinely injured. There were no problems with Gary Liddle's fitness when he was on loan last season. Even Raynes with all his previous problems obviously loved playing, he was no fraudster.

That tete-a-tete with 'DC' you keep mentioning seems to have been quite extensive - hope he was taking notes :lol:


How do you know he is genuinely injured? There were no problems with Raynes fitness when he was on loan either. Have you ever heard of workers who never take a day off sick when on their probabtion period, but as soon as they are made permanent, they suddenly fall ill?. Dont be so gullible, Rob Jones, Andy Davies, Raynes, Liddle and so it goes on. With Raynes though It was more his legs had gone, than going AWOL, as you say he was no fraudster, should still not have been signed in the first place though, good loan spell or not.

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 Post subject: Re: Gary Liddle
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How do we know he is genuinely injured? That’s an awful thing to say or insinuate. He has been a model professional. You cannot place him in the same category as the likes of Jones and Davies.
You still haven’t said what Challinor thought of your views on Liddell.


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 Post subject: Re: Gary Liddle
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horden wrote:
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horden wrote:
I did say in the summer he could be the next Michael Raynes, and I said as much to DC in June. It is strange how other clubs can sign older players and squeeze the last pips out of them, whilst the ones we sign , you would think they had it all worked out before they sign for the muggins of a club, planning one last pay day, getting paid whilst off on the sick.


That's a terrible way to talk about players who are genuinely injured. There were no problems with Gary Liddle's fitness when he was on loan last season. Even Raynes with all his previous problems obviously loved playing, he was no fraudster.

That tete-a-tete with 'DC' you keep mentioning seems to have been quite extensive - hope he was taking notes :lol:


How do you know he is genuinely injured? There were no problems with Raynes fitness when he was on loan either. Have you ever heard of workers who never take a day off sick when on their probabtion period, but as soon as they are made permanent, they suddenly fall ill?. Dont be so gullible, Rob Jones, Andy Davies, Raynes, Liddle and so it goes on. With Raynes though It was more his legs had gone, than going AWOL, as you say he was no fraudster, should still not have been signed in the first place though, good loan spell or not.[/quot



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 Post subject: Re: Gary Liddle
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How do we know he is genuinely injured? That’s an awful thing to say or insinuate. He has been a model professional. You cannot place him in the same category as the likes of Jones and Davies.
You still haven’t said what Challinor thought of your views on Liddell.


And Im not going to either.

How are Jones and Davies in a different category to Jones and Davies? sctatchinghead

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 Post subject: Re: Gary Liddle
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horden wrote:
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How do we know he is genuinely injured? That’s an awful thing to say or insinuate. He has been a model professional. You cannot place him in the same category as the likes of Jones and Davies.
You still haven’t said what Challinor thought of your views on Liddell.


And Im not going to either.

How are Jones and Davies in a different category to Jones and Davies? sctatchinghead



Edit : how are Jones and Davies in a different category to Liddle sctatchinghead

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 Post subject: Re: Gary Liddle
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Jones and Davies were injury prone before they come


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 Post subject: Re: Gary Liddle
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And no doubt at the time that didn't worry you

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 Post subject: Re: Gary Liddle
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an injured player at pools never. do not other teams get players injured as well both young and old. just pick any team at random in our league and see how many they have out for todays game. doubt any have their version of luke williams though.


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 Post subject: Re: Gary Liddle
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Of course players get injured, our injuries generally are no better than worse than anyone else, its these older players we have constantly signed over the years , who seem to get injured early in their Pools careers, thats if it is an injury or course not a falling out. I dont see players like Ian Henderson or Coppinger getting injured, but I bet they would if they signed for us, we are either cursed as a club or seen as a holiday camp in football circles. In future due diligence needs to be be better when signing this type of player, not just their fitness but their personalities. As for Liddle if we had just stuck to the old principle abour players returning we would've been ok

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 Post subject: Re: Gary Liddle
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accrington fan wrote:
an injured player at pools never. do not other teams get players injured as well both young and old. just pick any team at random in our league and see how many they have out for todays game. doubt any have their version of luke williams though.

just checked altrinchams site and they have a possibility of 7 players out for todays game. it aint just pools.


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 Post subject: Re: Gary Liddle
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accrington fan wrote:
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an injured player at pools never. do not other teams get players injured as well both young and old. just pick any team at random in our league and see how many they have out for todays game. doubt any have their version of luke williams though.

just checked altrinchams site and they have a possibility of 7 players out for todays game. it aint just pools.



We might have 7 in a couple of weeks time. Solihull probably roughed them up on Wednesday :laugh: Watch them still go and win today :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Gary Liddle
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Gary Liddle is a model pro. A great role model for any young players. He has played at last count 644 games since 2006, which is nothing short of remarkable. Probably one of the highest appearance makers in the football league in 21st century. Hes had a good run of never being injured, perhaps age has caught up with him but I know for a fact he will be as disappointed as anyone he is not able to contribute at this time.


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 Post subject: Re: Gary Liddle
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Whoa there. Let’s not let facts and common sense get in the way of speculation and the rumour mill.


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 Post subject: Re: Gary Liddle
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Well put Northshore who but the Doommonger would question whether he was genuinely injured or not.


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 Post subject: Re: Gary Liddle
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I couldve told you how many appearances Liddle has made in his career. That isnt the problem, the problem is how many they make when they sign for us, thick as mince our supporters, no wonder we are shite

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 Post subject: Re: Gary Liddle
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Hindsight is great. So you knew when this player who had played virtually injury free during his career would suffer an injury or as you say ‘is it genuine’. To question this player is disgraceful without any evidence.


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 Post subject: Re: Gary Liddle
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Yet again I apologise for having foresight. Disgraceful ? do behave.

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 Post subject: Re: Gary Liddle
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[quote="Johnjo1"]Hindsight is great. So you knew when this player who had played virtually injury free during his career would suffer an injury
never heard anyone mentioning when we signed the bloke that he was another sicknote and should be no where near the club. the vast majority welcomed the signing.


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 Post subject: Re: Gary Liddle
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To be honest I wasn’t exactly over the moon when he came in on loan but he did an excellent job and deserved his contract. What gets me is Horden questioning if his injury is genuine.


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 Post subject: Re: Gary Liddle
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His injury will be genuine, but how serious is it, we all know some people are back at work within weeks of illness/injury and others string it out. that is my argument. We saw it last season with Myles Anderson. If it is a serious long term injury then DC has to justify why he played him for the full 90 at Ilkeston. I dont mean to be hard on Liddle, nothing against the bloke , but its happened so many times in the past, It boils my piss, thats why I never wanted us to re-sign him, it rarely works at any club never mind us.

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 Post subject: Re: Gary Liddle
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we are all just guessing anyway. liddle might have really wanted to play and told challinor he was fine. would not be the first example of this ever happening.


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