Loughlin has confirmed the consortium that wanted Pools have turned to Wrexham. Net worth between the pair.... £150 million.

The other part of the takeover being Rob McElhenney who plays Mac in It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia.

Looks like we dodged a bullet there

https://twitter.com/nickloughlin4/status/1308849892421447681?s=21

This thread doesn’t make pretty reading for our Raj.

Good ! When you are in Pools position , in a downward spiral you attract the wrong types, some well-intentioned but dont know what they are doing and others not so well intentioned who know exactly what they are doing. There will always be vultures circling overhead of something that smells like it is dying, that is Pools now, frying pan into the fire, every chance that the next owner is worse than the last. I wouldn't lose any sleep over this was. Think we have dodged a bullet , for now, but we do need a new owner soon, as Singh hasn't a clue how to run a football club. As for 2m of investment, that is chicken feed in the grand scheme of things, a lot more would be needed in the long term and would this person have continued to have invested after the initial investment of 2m? probably not. I fear for Wrexham if they go ahead with this.

This would of been life changing for the area, club and the fans. How people can deny that is beyond me. Or fate is sealed now, if this man in charge won't hand over to literal Hollywood a-listers in a fucking pandemic when will he?

Also hi mods. Why was I banned?

The word at the time was that it was dismissed as it wasn't a serious offer. Clearly Raj thought that it was a wind up when he dismissed it.


Even if the initial investment was only £2million, the knock on effect for the club would be massive. Sponsorship, commercial sales, ticket sales, plus the overall interest in the club itself.

One thing I will say, is the club should've had the courtesy to look at the offer regardless rather than dismissing it out of hand. Maybe Raj is looking after our interests , or more likely his own, wants as much as he can get out of any deal, which as a greedy hard nosed businessman I would expect nothing less.

Unless we achieve success on the pitch, I see this ending badly whichever way it goes, Singh stays or he sells to another shark who just prolongs the agony before we do eventually go over the cliff edge, my money though is on Singh being the one who takes us down.

think the problem with Raj is his lack of money or his will to use it on pools. if someone racked up and agreed to finance pools joeen.intly with him then things may improve. think all changes in ownership are far more frightening nowadays as any change of manager and playing staff were ever b

Think I'll see how the negotiations with Wrexham go rather than automatically assuming Raj turned down an amazing offer. It would be good to hear something from Jeff Stelling after months of silence - dunno if he still looks in on the Bunker but if he has he'll know that a bit more communication from the club to its loyal fanbase would go a long way in these uncertain times.

Is Raj good for the club well everybody is entitled to their opinion but what I do know is we would probably not had a club if he hadn’t come in. I’m sure if these Americans had offered him a decent deal he would probably snapped their hands off I don’t think he would have worried about who they were. As far as the present time he seems to have backed the manager with his signings and I’m just glad he is keeping the club going but let’s remember he isn’t a rich man by rich mans standards.

Raj was always after someone else to help him with the financial burden at Darlo so I tend to agree with your point.
There is no doubt Singh is a rich man but the covid crisis will have hit him hard. I seem to recall he was getting grief from her indoors when he was at Darlo whinging about how much he was losing at the time. Shes probably in his ear again.

The americans have put 2m into Wrexham having not had to pay any serious fee to buy the club. Rumour is, it would've been 4m for Pools, 2m to cover the investment pumped in, then the other 2m further investment they were originally planning on. So it was cheaper to go for Wrexham in the long run.

In my opinion, it's just the latest embarrasment to befall our club after a series of embarrassments since I've been a fan in the late 80s, barring the golden years under IOR. This could've been the turning point in our history along the same lines of IOR's reign

If raj wont sell to American a listers then who will he sell too? They have already said they will put 2 million into the team, that is probobly 4 years money for pools now. That is dream money to pools, bloody hell we are scraping round for 30 k to sign another player, even if they dont spend another penny on them after that they will probobly have one decent season more than what we will.

If we believe every new owner is going to be dodgy, then we might as well go down the leagues and be owned by the fans.

You'd hope for some sort of dialogue from the club in regards to just why this was turned down - if this is indeed the same consortium who fancied Pools.

So Singh and Stelling should have just written off their own investments in the club and it's an "embarrassment" that they didn't? Are you that generous with your own money?

Certainly not an embarrassment, but that 'investment', or loans rather, were never going to be recovered the minute they were put into the club. The club is worth £0. It's a loss making business and always will be. If he wants 2 million to account for his loans, he'll never get it and we're going down the same route as Darlo. History is repeating itself.

When Raj Singh and Jeff Stelling took over the club it was on condition that John Blackledge got back some of his investment. Maybe they shouldn't have agreed to that as Mr I has long argued, but if they had the Pools phoenix club would be playing in the Northern League or at best Northern Prem right now and we wouldn't be speculating about takeovers by rich Americans.

If and when the Yanks take over Wrexham and spend a ton of money on their playing squad there'll be some point to complaining that Raj wasn't prepared to do the decent thing for us fans and hand Pools over for nowt.

I'm as grateful as anyone for the investment Singh and Stelling have made but they were never going to get it back - possibly some of it might have been if we made it back into the league and had a decent cup run, sold a couple of players etc, but someone must have spun Singh a good one if he expects someone to give him his money back if they take on a loss making football club. I guess as a fan I'm just sick of the doom and gloom we've been put through since IOR left and maybe I'm being selfish for thinking new investment from 2 highly successful individuals might have been a return to a bit of fun instead of fucking covid and wondering if we will have a team still in 2 years.

If the takeover bid was genuine then Sing should off snapped the yanks hands off.

Plenty of speculation on here but what do u expect when the communication skills from the club to its fans is very poor to put it politely.


It will all come out in the wash.
Or will it?

Come on Singh/Stelling it's good to talk you do plenty of it when the Season Tickets go on sale.

[quote="kevin pooles gloves"]If the takeover bid was genuine then Sing should off snapped the yanks hands off.

or more likely would have done. remember its not that long ago that his begging bowl was out for fans money. always think that if a deal looks too good then walk away.

I just wonder why pick Pools then Wrexham there are numerous clubs further up the chain for sale,the likes of Bolton and Wigan also come to mind.

By all accounts they were wanting to make some sort of Netflix type series on Pools and their incredible rollercoaster journey ot the Champoinship. If this is true, then cant think of a better club than Pools to do this with. I mean Wrexham have been there, done that, won titles, been in the Championship ( old div 2 ) and been involved in some serious giantkilling acts, so Pools definitely better option as we have achieved nowt during our history

you mean apart from our main stand being damaged by the germans in WW1.

Our bad luck started way back then. I mean FFS! it wasnt the biggest of stands was it? the Germans probably missed most of their intended targets, the coal mines, docks, steelworks, Richardsons and Westgarths, but manage to wreck our stand, the bastards

Just think how many Deadpool and Green Lantern costumes you'd have sold at the club shop.

Any relation to George?

He was George Lutz in the Amityville Horror. .

Darlo ?

George Houghton was linked to The Lampies if i remember ..not quite Hollywood i know

It doesn’t help that the media manager was let go (by the way Barrow fans are already singing his praises) from a communication stand point. The lad now “in charge” of Twitter was having a dig at fans after the Torquay game. Not the best image for the club. Again.


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An American Werewolf in Hartlepool ..Planet of the Apes .the original...just think about it mr horden...And Ryan has all the contacts as well.

I know the idea for the film Shaun of the Dead came about after film director Edgar Wright happened to drive down Murray Street

remakes of The Town Called Hell and The Money Pit come to mind.

A Mission Statement FFS ! What's one of them?

https://www.wrexhamafc.co.uk/news/extra ... -statement

It's a Hollywood term mr horden ..."Mission control this is Houston." ring any bells??

cheerleaders, marching bands playing music by john philip sousa {stars and stripes forever etc.} with a thansgiving party for all season ticket holders.

Guys if it helps. It was confirmed by our board that this was not the consortium involved in Hartlepool.

Ok Raj.
Welcome to the lunatic asylum.

Loughlin strikes again.

Aye I’m sure there’s loads of American investors desperate to invest in national league clubs.

Nice try raj

Never trust a person who uses the word GUYS, or go for a drink in a pub with a flat roof.

More Horden lifestyle tips tomorrow.

Floorboard, ceiling board or skateboard?

Our trust board who've brokered the deal.

Americans have invested in a few lower league clubs. Look at Barrow and Dagenham as examples. This Reynolds takeover has been rumoured for a good few weeks before it was announced

Ouija board?

All over ITV news now. Mind if Reynolds bought us instead of wrexham they wouldn't report it as according to ITV we don't exist. I think they've gone blind from masturbating over Harrogate town.

Nobody seems to be able to last at Pools since Raj took over. Mark Simpson, McGuire, Jepson, Scobie, Bates, Money, Hignett and probably a few more have all left plus a fairly hefty turnover of players.
Challinor comes across as if he's as sick as a parrot. Is he going to be next I wonder.
It's not coming across to me as a happy ship.
Raj seems to want partners to work with him and to invest in the club.
There's not a very long queue forming to take him up now is there.

It’s not been the most straightforward of years. Bit difficult in fact. Challinor looked happy enough to me for someone six hours from home stood in the rain having to chit chat. Good luck to Wrexham. Two million will last a couple of seasons at least. Reynolds & co wouldn’t last 5 games here anyway as we demand instant success and even if we got it we’d need it done in the right way given the Kaizen mentality of our knowledgable fan base. Raj has earned the right to do what he sees fit seeing as though he bailed us out of the mire which I don’t think he had to do. He won’t get every decision right but I respect the guy and hope that he sticks around to achieve some success and receive some recognition for it.